Why is Raph pretty much the main character in all the films?

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You honestly never knew there was a third live action film?

well...I didn't know there was a second movie.......XD

I thought there was only one TMNT live action movie at first

the first TMNT movie I watched was...2007 TMNT :3

so now...I gonna go watch the third one!! (I wanna watch them all before the new one comes out)

[pingclang]

It's nowhere near as good as the other 2 live action films but 3 is ok. It has a couple of laughs to it. Form your own opinion, don't let folks talk you into hating it before you've seen it or anything.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by pingclang

It's nowhere near as good as the other 2 live action films but 3 is ok. It has a couple of laughs to it. Form your own opinion, don't let folks talk you into hating it before you've seen it or anything.

as long as it has Mikey I shall like it.

I kinda hope it's extremely goofy......I love goofy stuff.

[miru]

Originally Posted by xChri5x

TIL Raph is a "sex symbol"

Ninjara's iPhone lock screen.

[Donatello19]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

wait! theres a 3rd TMNT movie!? 0_0....I thought there were only 2!?

(not including tmnt 2007)

so....i have to watch another movie!?

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: The Secret Of The Ooze
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3: Turtles In Time
TMNT
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014)

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

I felt Leo and Raph led the first movie,
I could see Don "leading" SotO due to the science stuff... Maybe Don/Raph (since he left the group and the film followed him for awhile)
I never could sit through 3
and I felt TMNT was more Leo and Raph again, primarily Leo.

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

as long as it has Mikey I shall like it.

I kinda hope it's extremely goofy......I love goofy stuff.

You'll love it then.
It's mind-numbingly beyond silly.

[Welmanshire]

Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

I felt Leo and Raph led the first movie,
I could see Don "leading" SotO due to the science stuff... Maybe Don/Raph (since he left the group and the film followed him for awhile)
I never could sit through 3
and I felt TMNT was more Leo and Raph again, primarily Leo.



You'll love it then.
It's mind-numbingly beyond silly.

I still think SOTO was primarily revolving around Raph, just based on the amount of solo screen time. But as another user pointed out, it is in Raphs nature to go off on his own.

[Tora]

Great Question. I looked back on all of the Toy figures I had from this line when I was little and strangely enough I had many versions of Raph and I never considered him my fav of the team but the Toys do not lie lol!

Raph was a bad ass in the films & the 2003 show he was also the funny one that stood out in the 87 show so that is my guess why so many of us embraced him. I think that is funny seeing how Mikey was vastly pushed harder on the fandom back in the 87 years.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

I think Mikey was only heavily featured in the cartoon because he's largely a one-note character. He does a joke, he appealed to kids because he's funny in a more corn-ball way. Even in the new Nick show, he's funny but he's not doing anything he didn't already do in the previous incarnations. He's not as "complicated" like the other brothers. He's usually just background. He had great moments in the movies, like showing up the Foot Soldier in the original and the skate sequence through the sewers in the 2007 movie. Other than that, he's never been built "strong enough" to be the lead like Raph or Leo usually are.

Although in 2003's 4kids show, I think they were trying to beef up Mikey by making him extremely powerful in that tournament (etc).
But hey, that's why we love him.

[Powder]

None of that is true for Mirage/Image Mikey, thankfully.

[pingclang]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

as long as it has Mikey I shall like it.

I kinda hope it's extremely goofy......I love goofy stuff.

Then I think you'll like it. There's a lot of focus on him and it is very goofy. Try it out.

[Shark_Blade]

Because people can't get enough of pissy PMS bitchy male leads in their films.

[LittleBlueHero]

Raph is simply the easiest turtle to exploit.

His dark and brooding nature offer a great starting point for drama in a film, as well as his nack for running off alone.

Its going to happen again too...



Notice how Raph is the only turtle not in chains? He will get plenty of solo time in the new film, AGAIN, I promise you. He fits Bays productions too well.

[voltron80]

Originally Posted by Leofan26

Look, I like the guy as much as the next person but that's one thing I always found annoying about the films. I felt they did things wrong and should have switched turtles each one goes by, for example I always thought movie 3 should have had Leo as the main character, it would have made more sense with the settings and swords don't yah think?

Outside the first movie that focus on Raph and little with Leo. Donnie was the focus in TMNT 2 and Mike was the focus in the second half in TMNT3. In TMNT(2007)focus on Leo's return to New York and Raph resenting him.

[pingclang]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Because people can't get enough of pissy PMS bitchy male leads in their films.

Right, because a stick up his ass, emotionless drone makes for such a better, more identifiable lead.

[Refractive Reflections]

Writers can make the other Turtles have a significant amount of screen time, but it's too easy and convenient for writers to solely have Raph be the "main character" since he has the most angst and is rebellious.

I'm not saying Raph isn't a good character to explore, but it's too short-sighted of writers to constantly use Raph's hot-headed personality as a way to create "drama" within the Turtles whenever the four of them aren't fighting their external enemies. It short-changes Raph's personality, in my opinion, when writers do that rather than exploring the depth of where this anger is coming from and trying to find a way to overcome it, or at least find a way for him to channel that anger into something productive/beneficial. It would substantially make Raphael's character grow and would give his character a more endearing quality that he's actually trying to change/improve himself, rather than just recklessly letting his blinding anger affect his closest family members and friends.

Originally Posted by Raphaeline

(and yes I think fangirls can think he's hot. For a mutant turtle I mean ) don't laugh, I see so many fangirls on tumblr drooling over the Raph from the Nick show, saying he's hot/sexy/awesome.

...Hmm, I think it's because some of those girls think a hot-headed passionate guy (fits the "bad boy" image fantasy) would equal a red hot, passionate lover. ...which is not always the case, and if they can handle the explosive anger issues. LOL

[Leo656]

I imagine Raphael the reality wouldn't quite live up to the fangirl fantasy of him. Having known a lot of guys like that, and occasionally accused of being one, they tend to treat chicks kinda crummy, generally speaking.

I agree, Raph gets the spotlight for the same reason the X-Men movies should be called "Wolverine and the Other Guys". Raph and Wolverine are the wish-fulfillment characters for the main two types of fans of this kind of enterainment: The uber-macho, cynical "tough guy" types who see themselves in that role, and the flip side, the more nerdier types who either *wish* they were that character, or delude themselves into *thinking* they are that type of character even if they're not.

Fun Fact: Ask 100 people why Raphael (or Wolverine, honestly) is their favorite character in their group, 60-80 of them will say "Because he's just like me!" even though about 40 of those same people will be wearing some type of T-shirt related to video games or cartoons, which kind of implies they're neither a master martial artist or have won many fights in general. J/K... sort of. Full disclosure: Kinda drunk. May be coming off more snarky than intended.

That's just an objective analysis, Raphael is probably my second-favorite character and in truth, I don't find him over-represented in the movies. I could do with a little more of this Turtle or that one, same as anyone else, but I think his screen time compared to the others was always fair. In 90 - 120 minutes you have to focus on who is most interesting, and frankly, I'd rather watch Raph do his thing than watch Donny fiddle with his computer or Mikey hide his bong.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by LittleBlueHero

Raph is simply the easiest turtle to exploit.

His dark and brooding nature offer a great starting point for drama in a film, as well as his nack for running off alone.

Its going to happen again too...



Notice how Raph is the only turtle not in chains? He will get plenty of solo time in the new film, AGAIN, I promise you. He fits Bays productions too well.

Off topic a little here - are the shells this big because they will have the ability to retract their limbs inside?

On topic: because it's easy and doesn't impede the story line too much if the toughest action hero of them all saves the day.

[Welmanshire]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Off topic a little here - are the shells this big because they will have the ability to retract their limbs inside?

On topic: because it's easy and doesn't impede the story line too much if the toughest action hero of them all saves the day.

In the leaked script they retracted their limbs into their shells during action sequences to bounce off things and save themselves on impact. There was a scene where they used their shells to slide\coast\grind along the road in a car chase scene.
I will admit, the leaked script had some exciting action\chase scenes. Stuff we haven't seen the Turtles be able to physically pull off. Apart from that. Pretty puss.

[Leo656]

I'm sorry, for some reason I simply can't visualize the Turtles fully retracting into their shells as looking like anything but the cheesiest thing ever. I'unno.