MARVEL Comic Movies - Page 2

**Karpo_007** · 06-30-2003, 01:33 PM

Venom and Carnage seem pretty good choices if there will be more sequels. Second one should be good to, Raimi is directing it.

Jim Carey would be perfect Cletus Kasady.

*Jephael* · 06-30-2003, 01:46 PM

Hey dudes, go to http://us.imdb.com/Title?0316654 for info on the next Spidey flick!

*Taloniss* · 06-30-2003, 05:40 PM

I voted for Spidey. I thought the movie was incredibly well done!

~~Leo656~~ · 06-30-2003, 06:06 PM

I guess I'll go with Spider-Man. And of course it's not exactly like the comics. Neither was X-Men. Neither was Batman or Superman for that matter. ALL comic book movies take large (sometimes VERY large) liberties with the source material in order to make it more accessible for a wider audience. Millions more people watch movies than read comics, it's just statistical fact, therefore maybe 1% of moviegoers care that Peter wasn't dating Gwen Stacy, or that his webshooters were organic rather than something he built himself. Were any of us crying that it was Raph who got beat up by the Foot instead of Leo in the first TMNT movie? It's not fair to not like a movie just because it wasn't 100% accurate to the comic books, otherwise you'll think ALL comic book movies are crap.

I mean, c'mon, the X-Men movies are universally loved and yet they're VERY far from the comics. Which is necessary when you're telling stories with characters that have been around in comic form for 40 years or so with a cast of roughly 8 million team members in rotation, deaths, weddings, dismemberments, fake deaths, fake weddings, and just a general feeling of "what the F*CK is going on in this book?!" Streamlining becomes necessary for the sake of telling a coherent story.

And I'd be kinda surprised if they used Carnage, they'd have to dumb his character down a lot. The guy's an indescriminate serial killer, there's no way they'd use him to his full potential in a PG movie, and as someone else said in another thread, Carnage has no depth at all so when he isn't just killing people he really isn't doing much of anything.

**Karpo_007** · 06-30-2003, 07:21 PM

Who said every enemy Spider-Man faces has to be Hannibal Lecter, intellectual match? Carnage is a characters with style, but You got a point, the studio would never agree to do a movie with high enough rating to get it right. But after Octopuss there isn't really a big Spider-Man opponent left, except Venom and Carnage and his team. Rhino, Vulture or Electro have never been that big, just casual enemies. I can't think of any good story wich they could base Spider-Man 3 on, but If 2 is a bof office success, there will without doubt be another movie. Unfortunately, 3 is unlucky number for comic book movies.

*Brodie* · 06-30-2003, 07:28 PM

Cletus Kasady will be in Spidey2, Kirsten Dunst's boyfriend, Gallyhan is playing him.

It's funny seeing Ted Raimi, Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell working together agaiun, it's like Evil Dead all over again.

*The Stryker* · 06-30-2003, 07:32 PM

yeah 3 is the cursed number in alot of superhero series

batman and superman payed the price

spider-man,X-men and Blade will hopefully survive the trilogy curse

~~Leo656~~ · 06-30-2003, 07:35 PM

Superman 3 wasn't as good as 1 or 2 but it was a lot better than it gets credit for. And it was a hundred times better than the abomination that was Superman 4.

*Taloniss* · 06-30-2003, 07:37 PM

I really hope the third movie is the clone saga! Who doesn't love a good clone movie?

Anyway, I think the third movie still has quite a cast of villians to choose from. You've got the Lizard, Mysterio, Shocker, Rhino, Sandman, Vulture, Chamelion, Hobgoblin (similiar to GG, but could be made different enough) or they could make GG reappear with it as Harry in the suit.

I'd imagine they'd have to tone down Venom a bit as well, seeing as PG movies can't have talks of eating spleens, brains or other bodily organs.

*Edit* Forgot Sandman in the list of potential villians for Spidey 3.

**Karpo_007** · 06-30-2003, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie

Cletus Kasady will be in Spidey2, Kirsten Dunst's boyfriend, Gallyhan is playing him.

It's funny seeing Ted Raimi, Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell working together agaiun, it's like Evil Dead all over again.

He will? IMDB doen't list him...But if thats true, this doesn't sound good. Carnage without slaughtering people is nothing, and they would never aprove that violent Spider-Man movie...

And yes, number 3 is the cursed number in all comic book movies, Let's see how what will happen with current franchices.

*Brodie* · 06-30-2003, 07:39 PM

I'm pretty sure 3 will be the Symbiote saga, but I doubt it'll be any good unless it's a solid 3 hours. To go from when Pete gets the symbiote suit, to when Brock gets it, to when Kasady does, to when Pete and Brock team up and beat the piss out of Kasady.

If they do the clone saga I'll kill myself. No one needs Ben Riley.

And Karpo, Gallyhan can play a crazy guy, just look at Donnie Darko. Gallyhan gets more credit from me than McGuire. Tobey sucks. Kasady is a serial killer, and all around loon, and I think Gallyhan can do it well.

I doubt Kasady will be all out Carnage in Spidey2, just arrested, maybe Parker interviews him or takes pictures.

**Karpo_007** · 06-30-2003, 07:47 PM

You said his in Spidey2, but I din't see him casted...

I hope they won't do the symbiot saga. It would not work as a movie, not with a PG rating. Like I said in my previous post, Carnage is pretty much nothing if he can't slaughter people...

And the clone saga, it could never be told in a movie. It's way too complicated and long. Not a movie material.

The curse of number 3 includes, that the 4 movie[Usually 5th won't made] will also be bad, possibly much worse then 3. Both Batman and Super-Man have proved this.

*Brodie* · 06-30-2003, 07:51 PM

www.superherohype.com

**Karpo_007** · 06-30-2003, 08:04 PM

Well won't generally bbelive what rumors say untill there is some real proof..

*Brodie* · 06-30-2003, 08:14 PM

IMDB isn't that reliable. They said Gambit was in X2, and he wasn't.

InsaneZane · 06-30-2003, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker

yeah 3 is the cursed number in alot of superhero series

batman and superman payed the price

spider-man,X-men and Blade will hopefully survive the trilogy curse

either that or... it's just the difference between Marvel and DC... hehe

I'll go with X2...

**Karpo_007** · 06-30-2003, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie

IMDB isn't that reliable. They said Gambit was in X2, and he wasn't.

well IGN didn't say anything about it either, and thats about the most reliable source there is. If it's true, it will be announced before they start shooting...

Greed · 06-30-2003, 09:01 PM

I liked Spider-man (minus a few fawls)

who would like to see the Insidious Six in three just asking

TMNT is cooler than MOTU · 06-30-2003, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie

Cletus Kasady will be in Spidey2, Kirsten Dunst's boyfriend, Gallyhan is playing him.

It's funny seeing Ted Raimi, Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell working together agaiun, it's like Evil Dead all over again.

You mean Jake Gyllenhaal? No, I'm pretty positive he won't be Cletus Cassidy.

*Stone Ill* · 07-01-2003, 12:53 AM

Well, here is a quick write-up of how I feel about the movies:

X-Men: Ok..Could've been better.

X2: X-Men United: Never Seen it.

Blade: Sucked.

Blade II: Never seen it, but I assumed it sucked.

Daredevil: Pretty cool actually!

HULK: Incredible! (Pun intended)

Spider-Man: Pretty good.

Now..Here are my favourites from Least to best:

7. Blade
6. Blade II
5. X-Men
4. X-2
3. Spider-Man
2. Daredevil
1. Hulk

View Poll Results: Whats your favorite Marvel comic movie??
X-Men	1	3.23%
X2: X-Men United	9	29.03%
Blade	2	6.45%
Blade II	0	0%
Daredevil	1	3.23%
HULK	3	9.68%
Spider-Man	12	38.71%
ALL are Equally Good!!!	3	9.68%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

06-30-2003, 01:46 PM	#22
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Hey dudes, go to http://us.imdb.com/Title?0316654 for info on the next Spidey flick! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

06-30-2003, 07:28 PM	#26
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	Cletus Kasady will be in Spidey2, Kirsten Dunst's boyfriend, Gallyhan is playing him. It's funny seeing Ted Raimi, Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell working together agaiun, it's like Evil Dead all over again. __________________ Stupendous Monster

06-30-2003, 07:32 PM	#27
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	yeah 3 is the cursed number in alot of superhero series batman and superman payed the price spider-man,X-men and Blade will hopefully survive the trilogy curse __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

06-30-2003, 07:39 PM	#31
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	I'm pretty sure 3 will be the Symbiote saga, but I doubt it'll be any good unless it's a solid 3 hours. To go from when Pete gets the symbiote suit, to when Brock gets it, to when Kasady does, to when Pete and Brock team up and beat the piss out of Kasady. If they do the clone saga I'll kill myself. No one needs Ben Riley. And Karpo, Gallyhan can play a crazy guy, just look at Donnie Darko. Gallyhan gets more credit from me than McGuire. Tobey sucks. Kasady is a serial killer, and all around loon, and I think Gallyhan can do it well. I doubt Kasady will be all out Carnage in Spidey2, just arrested, maybe Parker interviews him or takes pictures. __________________ Stupendous Monster

06-30-2003, 01:33 PM	#21
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Venom and Carnage seem pretty good choices if there will be more sequels. Second one should be good to, Raimi is directing it. Jim Carey would be perfect Cletus Kasady.

06-30-2003, 05:40 PM	#23
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	I voted for Spidey. I thought the movie was incredibly well done!

06-30-2003, 06:06 PM	#24
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I guess I'll go with Spider-Man. And of course it's not exactly like the comics. Neither was X-Men. Neither was Batman or Superman for that matter. ALL comic book movies take large (sometimes VERY large) liberties with the source material in order to make it more accessible for a wider audience. Millions more people watch movies than read comics, it's just statistical fact, therefore maybe 1% of moviegoers care that Peter wasn't dating Gwen Stacy, or that his webshooters were organic rather than something he built himself. Were any of us crying that it was Raph who got beat up by the Foot instead of Leo in the first TMNT movie? It's not fair to not like a movie just because it wasn't 100% accurate to the comic books, otherwise you'll think ALL comic book movies are crap. I mean, c'mon, the X-Men movies are universally loved and yet they're VERY far from the comics. Which is necessary when you're telling stories with characters that have been around in comic form for 40 years or so with a cast of roughly 8 million team members in rotation, deaths, weddings, dismemberments, fake deaths, fake weddings, and just a general feeling of "what the F*CK is going on in this book?!" Streamlining becomes necessary for the sake of telling a coherent story. And I'd be kinda surprised if they used Carnage, they'd have to dumb his character down a lot. The guy's an indescriminate serial killer, there's no way they'd use him to his full potential in a PG movie, and as someone else said in another thread, Carnage has no depth at all so when he isn't just killing people he really isn't doing much of anything.

06-30-2003, 07:21 PM	#25
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Who said every enemy Spider-Man faces has to be Hannibal Lecter, intellectual match? Carnage is a characters with style, but You got a point, the studio would never agree to do a movie with high enough rating to get it right. But after Octopuss there isn't really a big Spider-Man opponent left, except Venom and Carnage and his team. Rhino, Vulture or Electro have never been that big, just casual enemies. I can't think of any good story wich they could base Spider-Man 3 on, but If 2 is a bof office success, there will without doubt be another movie. Unfortunately, 3 is unlucky number for comic book movies.

06-30-2003, 07:35 PM	#28
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Superman 3 wasn't as good as 1 or 2 but it was a lot better than it gets credit for. And it was a hundred times better than the abomination that was Superman 4.

06-30-2003, 07:37 PM	#29
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	I really hope the third movie is the clone saga! Who doesn't love a good clone movie? Anyway, I think the third movie still has quite a cast of villians to choose from. You've got the Lizard, Mysterio, Shocker, Rhino, Sandman, Vulture, Chamelion, Hobgoblin (similiar to GG, but could be made different enough) or they could make GG reappear with it as Harry in the suit. I'd imagine they'd have to tone down Venom a bit as well, seeing as PG movies can't have talks of eating spleens, brains or other bodily organs. Edit Forgot Sandman in the list of potential villians for Spidey 3.

06-30-2003, 07:47 PM	#32
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	You said his in Spidey2, but I din't see him casted... I hope they won't do the symbiot saga. It would not work as a movie, not with a PG rating. Like I said in my previous post, Carnage is pretty much nothing if he can't slaughter people... And the clone saga, it could never be told in a movie. It's way too complicated and long. Not a movie material. The curse of number 3 includes, that the 4 movie[Usually 5th won't made] will also be bad, possibly much worse then 3. Both Batman and Super-Man have proved this.

06-30-2003, 07:51 PM	#33
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	www.superherohype.com __________________ Stupendous Monster

06-30-2003, 08:04 PM	#34
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well won't generally bbelive what rumors say untill there is some real proof..

06-30-2003, 08:14 PM	#35
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	IMDB isn't that reliable. They said Gambit was in X2, and he wasn't. __________________ Stupendous Monster

06-30-2003, 09:01 PM	#38
Greed Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 931	I liked Spider-man (minus a few fawls) who would like to see the Insidious Six in three just asking __________________ Why? Because they're blacker than the blackest black times infinity. (Formerly known as Slash89, go ahead think back you know me.)

07-01-2003, 12:53 AM	#40
Stone Ill Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burlington, Ontario Posts: 2,397	Well, here is a quick write-up of how I feel about the movies: X-Men: Ok..Could've been better. X2: X-Men United: Never Seen it. Blade: Sucked. Blade II: Never seen it, but I assumed it sucked. Daredevil: Pretty cool actually! HULK: Incredible! (Pun intended) Spider-Man: Pretty good. Now..Here are my favourites from Least to best: 7. Blade 6. Blade II 5. X-Men 4. X-2 3. Spider-Man 2. Daredevil 1. Hulk