Good Episodes Marred By Replacement Voices. - Page 2

*pferreira* · 10-10-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

But to me the episodes that were the most ruined due to alternate voices were the later CBS Season 7 episodes with Shredder, namely "Night of the Rogues", "Dirk Savage", "Invasion of the Krangazoids", and "Shredder Triumphant". You can tell Townsend Coleman just can't do a good Shredder impression nearly as much as Uncle Phil can do a Michelangelo impression!

What was James Avery's last episode as Shredder? Also how many episodes had the alternate Krang voice. It was terrible!

*blindturtle02* · 10-10-2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Raphael's Season 10 voice was thankfully a good impression of Rob Paulsen's. Couldn't stand the Season 3 and Euro eps for Raph.....so thank god they didn't use him for Season 10.

I actually wish the guy from Season 10 did Raph in the earlier episodes that Paulsen missed...it would have been easier to get through the Euro episodes.

Yeah the guy from s10 did do a nice job. You're right, that would have made the European vacation arc much easier to swallow. I think the worst episode was Ring of Fire with Raph screaming about those bulls. Oh man that really makes my ears bleed. I think that one also had Greg Berg as alternate Don.

cammy85 · 10-10-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pferreira

What was James Avery's last episode as Shredder? Also how many episodes had the alternate Krang voice. It was terrible!

James Avery's last ever Shredder VO was Season 7's White Belt, Black Heart. Trapped in the Gobi Desert, interesting.

*blindturtle02* · 10-10-2013, 07:38 PM

That's right! I was thinking White Belt was it for a while now but haven't been able to get to my complete series lately due to closet clutter.

**Jester** · 10-10-2013, 07:56 PM

I know I'm glad that James Avery was around for some of the best episodes when they came around in season 7. Legend of Koji would have taken a hit is he wasn't in it.

*MikeandRaph87* · 10-10-2013, 07:57 PM

Specific episodes?

Leatherhead:Terror of The Swamp has a repalcement Shredder and Don/Bebop.
Return of The Fly has both a replacement Raphael and Donatello/Bebop.

Agreed about Shredder's voice after season 7 on. Practically every appearance Shredder made from season 7 onwards was some level of very good.

*CyberCubed* · 10-10-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Return of The Fly has both a replacement Raphael and Donatello/Bebop.
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What episode was that? Raph's only replacement voice in Season 3 was "The Ninja Sword of Nowhere," and, "The Turtle Terminator."

Raphael's voice didn't change again aside from the Euro eps until Season 10.

*blindturtle02* · 10-11-2013, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I know I'm glad that James Avery was around for some of the best episodes when they came around in season 7. Legend of Koji would have taken a hit is he wasn't in it.

I sure wish he'd been able to do voice work in Night of The Rogues since that one's pretty epic. Wish he could have come back and recorded his dialogue. They did that sort of thing with my Injustice videogame and Phil LaMarr coming in to do dialogue for an alternate John Stewart skin. Very cool when such things happen.

*pferreira* · 10-17-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cammy85

James Avery's last ever Shredder VO was Season 7's White Belt, Black Heart. Trapped in the Gobi Desert, interesting.

Thanks for that. But do you know which episodes had the alternate Krang voice as well?

cammy85 · 10-17-2013, 05:03 PM

As far as I recall, "Blast From The Past". "Cowabunga Shredhead" and "Green With Jealousy" had the alternate Krang VA.

**Jester** · 10-17-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blindturtle02

I sure wish he'd been able to do voice work in Night of The Rogues since that one's pretty epic. Wish he could have come back and recorded his dialogue.

What's worse is Jim Cummings is AWOL as Leatherhead, replaced by Peter Reneday.

*CyberCubed* · 10-17-2013, 05:46 PM

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What's worse is Jim Cummings is AWOL as Leatherhead, replaced by Peter Reneday.

Really? I didn't even notice a difference in Leatherhead's voice, and I've rewatched that episode tons of times.

cammy85 · 10-17-2013, 07:58 PM

Yeah, Leatherhead's voice is lacking the tone of Jim Cumming's portrayal. I garontee!!

InsaneZane · 10-19-2013, 02:26 PM

All of them still bothers me except I always kinda liked alternate Don, but on the same note his Bebop sucks. So its a trade off... Barry its still the better Don. The only alternate Shredder that was acceptable for me is the man Jim Cummings!

*MikeandRaph87* · 10-19-2013, 03:21 PM

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All of them still bothers me except I always kinda liked alternate Don, but on the same note his Bebop sucks. So its a trade off... Barry its still the better Don. The only alternate Shredder that was acceptable for me is the man Jim Cummings!

Actually Scooter/Don also voicing Bebop was fine. He sounded like he was stopped up but atleast close to Barry's Bebop voice. His Donatello was the same as Scooter's voice however which is underwhelming.

As for Shredder sub I perferr Bill Martin. His seven episodes were all very good and while any other voice will be off I think his voice matches Shredder good enough.

Are voice substitutes a thing of the past or are they still a neccessary evil for production to complete by deadline in today's animation?

Luke795 · 10-19-2013, 05:52 PM

What about episodes like The Making of Metalhead, Shredderville, or Shredder Triumphant.

InsaneZane · 10-21-2013, 12:50 AM

Raphael is terribly unbearable in Ninja Sword of Nowhere, and that's actually a very good episode minus the ridiculous left turn with the alien antique collectors

InsaneZane · 10-21-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Actually Scooter/Don also voicing Bebop was fine. He sounded like he was stopped up but atleast close to Barry's Bebop voice. His Donatello was the same as Scooter's voice however which is underwhelming.

Wasn't there another Donatello alternate? I feel like we're talking about 2 different substitutes

cammy85 · 10-21-2013, 03:35 PM

No, just the two of them. Raphael had three different VAs.

*pferreira* · 10-24-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cammy85

As far as I recall, "Blast From The Past". "Cowabunga Shredhead" and "Green With Jealousy" had the alternate Krang VA.

Ok, thanks!

10-10-2013, 07:38 PM	#24
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	That's right! I was thinking White Belt was it for a while now but haven't been able to get to my complete series lately due to closet clutter. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.

10-10-2013, 07:56 PM	#25
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	I know I'm glad that James Avery was around for some of the best episodes when they came around in season 7. Legend of Koji would have taken a hit is he wasn't in it. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-10-2013, 07:57 PM	#26
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Specific episodes? Leatherhead:Terror of The Swamp has a repalcement Shredder and Don/Bebop. Return of The Fly has both a replacement Raphael and Donatello/Bebop. Agreed about Shredder's voice after season 7 on. Practically every appearance Shredder made from season 7 onwards was some level of very good. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

10-19-2013, 02:26 PM	#34
InsaneZane Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Silent Hill Posts: 1,198	All of them still bothers me except I always kinda liked alternate Don, but on the same note his Bebop sucks. So its a trade off... Barry its still the better Don. The only alternate Shredder that was acceptable for me is the man Jim Cummings! __________________

10-21-2013, 12:50 AM	#37
InsaneZane Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Silent Hill Posts: 1,198	Raphael is terribly unbearable in Ninja Sword of Nowhere, and that's actually a very good episode minus the ridiculous left turn with the alien antique collectors __________________

10-17-2013, 05:03 PM	#30
cammy85 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnedosa, MB Canada Posts: 772	As far as I recall, "Blast From The Past". "Cowabunga Shredhead" and "Green With Jealousy" had the alternate Krang VA.

10-17-2013, 07:58 PM	#33
cammy85 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnedosa, MB Canada Posts: 772	Yeah, Leatherhead's voice is lacking the tone of Jim Cumming's portrayal. I garontee!!

10-19-2013, 05:52 PM	#36
Luke795 Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 376	What about episodes like The Making of Metalhead, Shredderville, or Shredder Triumphant.

10-21-2013, 03:35 PM	#39
cammy85 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnedosa, MB Canada Posts: 772	No, just the two of them. Raphael had three different VAs.