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TheAnvil · 10-10-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You do realize the actor who played Doyle died while the show was till airing, right? I can't remember the exact year it was, but he died only a year or two after he left the show.

Yes I'm aware that he died. But it was during Season 4.

*Krutch* · 10-11-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAnvil

I've already taking a distinct dislike towards Lorne though.

Whaaaaaat?! How can you dislike Lorne? I think his addition alone was responsible for fixing the tone of the series to where it needed to be to really shine.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 10-11-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You do realize the actor who played Doyle died while the show was till airing, right? I can't remember the exact year it was, but he died only a year or two after he left the show.

Very sad, didn't even know that. According to Wikipedia he died of an "accidental" heroin overdose

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Quinn

Blossombrooks · 10-11-2013, 12:21 PM

Also very sad was that Andy Hallett who played Lorne passed away a few years ago, poor guy.

*CyberCubed* · 10-11-2013, 06:26 PM

Who are your least favorite characters?

I always thought Riley sucked, and Tara was a bit boring at the start until Season 5. Kennedy was an absolutely terrible replacement.

I also never saw Gun as anything more than the token black guy on the show. It's like they felt they suddenly needed to introduce a black character and it stuck.

Blossombrooks · 10-11-2013, 06:45 PM

That's a tough question, I guess Riley was always one of my least favourite characters and I'm sure that had nothing to do with him replacing Angel as Buffy's love interest...

Eve got on my nerves quite a bit but I ended up feeling sorry for her, oh and Connor, never really thought much to him even though the idea of his character was good.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 10-11-2013, 11:21 PM

I liked Lorne on Angel, and of course when Spike came onto both of the shows, that made things interesting. Allot of the minor characters I remember hating, like Gun, couldn't get behind him. Loved Oz and Xander allot. Anya was cool. Near the end of Buffy's run, I kinda hated the whole "Scoobies" thing

*TheBlueTurtle1* · 10-13-2013, 02:45 AM

I think Gunn was my least fav, he seemed to be a little pointless, would rather they worked Doyle back in some how, even if they had made him a evil to start with and turned him good again.

Such a shame the actor died, because it sounds like they were gonna do that around season 4.

I thought Gunn and Angel didn't gel, where as Angel and Doyle felt like Batman and Robin

zodiac brave · 10-13-2013, 03:36 AM

my buffyverse fandom rivals that of my tmnt fandom. (and honestly, i like angel in that regard more than buffy, but they're still both great shows!) in fact, the first internet forum i ever joined was the wb angel forum waaay back in the day.

say what you will about character arcs and storylines...its true that a few plots seemed to get outta control throughout the show, but you can't deny that the way tv shows are now written, paced and executed is a result of what joss whedon and co did with these two shows.

spuffy 4 life!

*CyberCubed* · 10-13-2013, 04:06 PM

I just hate it that every relationship on the show was broken up at some point. It got so predictable where you couldn't care for a couple because you knew they would break up a season later.

*TheBlueTurtle1* · 10-13-2013, 05:04 PM

I think that killing doyle off was just such a big mistake. he brought out this great feeling within the group, he made cordelia relevant and he was Angel's sidekick. He was almost like a glue, and the group just doensn't feel the same without him there. Like said above, Gunn just feels like he's been brought in so they had a black guy there. There was enough room for Wesley, Cordy, Angel and Doyle (and whoever they introduce in the future).

Episodes like the one where cordelia got pregnant would have been so interesting to have seen what doyle would have brought to the episode. Like if he never really got with her, but stayed on the brink of it to keep the audience thinking whether or not it would happen. From what I read, the actress who plays cordelia's mother was really annoyed when they killed him off lol.

*CyberCubed* · 10-13-2013, 05:09 PM

Cordelia's mother appeared in the show? I don't remember that happening.

Blossombrooks · 10-13-2013, 05:31 PM

I don't recall that either, do you mean Cordelia's daughter Jasmine, Blue Turtle? She was an interesting character, those were some creepy episodes!

Speaking of creepy episodes, the Angel one 'Hell Bound' freaked me out! It was that guy in the basement *shudders*.

*CyberCubed* · 10-13-2013, 05:57 PM

Some of the writing in the later episodes of Buffy and Angel were terrible to be honest. It felt at one point they finally ran out of ideas so they looked for as many ways to screw up the main characters as possible.

I really don't like what happened to the majority of the main cast as the show progressed. It ruins their characters for me even when I rewatch the beginning seasons because I know what they become.

*TheBlueTurtle1* · 10-14-2013, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Blossombrooks

I don't recall that either, do you mean Cordelia's daughter Jasmine, Blue Turtle? She was an interesting character, those were some creepy episodes!

Speaking of creepy episodes, the Angel one 'Hell Bound' freaked me out! It was that guy in the basement *shudders*.

No, I mean the real life mother of the actress of Cordelia, said the show was stupid for killing Doyle off.

*CyberCubed* · 10-14-2013, 09:06 AM

Cordelia, or Charisma Carpenter, was extremely hot back in the 90's. Hard to believe she was like 30 years old while playing a High School student in the first 3 seasons.

Blossombrooks · 10-14-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

No, I mean the real life mother of the actress of Cordelia, said the show was stupid for killing Doyle off.

Ahh, my bad

apologies.

*Krutch* · 10-16-2013, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I just hate it that every relationship on the show was broken up at some point. It got so predictable where you couldn't care for a couple because you knew they would break up a season later.

I kinda agree with you, but I also feel like each relationship felt justified in how it ended. I never went "Ugh, this is just for dramas sake."
I never cared for Angel, but I can see his reasoning for leaving her.
Spike and Buffy should never be a full-time thing anyways.
Willow and Oz was handled as well as it could have when an actor decides to leave the show. And I loved the episode when he comes back.
Tara and Willow never really broke up at the end.
Willow and Xander were never official to begin with.
Giles and Ms. Calendar never broke up.
Buffy + Riley... I just feel so indifferent towards that I cant form an opinion.

Okay, maaaaybe Anya+Xander, but still, can be argued that Xander was just too immature to get married yet(something that was more or less proven the episode of the wedding itself).

*CyberCubed* · 10-16-2013, 11:36 PM

You forgot Xander/Cordelia...but it was bound to happen since she was leaving the show at the end of that season anyway.

I was only in middle school when Season 2 was airing, back then Xander/Cordelia was like my fantasy for myself in 8th grade...lol.

*Krutch* · 03-25-2018, 04:12 AM

So, now that Disney acquired Buffy in the Fox deal, I'm willing to bet that we're going to hear about a new Buffy series to go on their streaming service sooner than later (once the deal finalizes.)

I'm going to bet it's an animated series, kind of a reboot of sorts. It'll feature all the main characters and will be set in highschool again, but the creatures and such would be a little more "out there" than the TV series.

Basically, it'll be like that animated pilot that didn't get picked up years ago, only with crappier animation.

But yeah, they'll definitely do something with the franchise. It's had surprisingly strong staying power, no doubt in part of it being on Netflix for a younger audience to find.

What do you think they'll end up doing? Animation? Reboot? Spin-off? SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS and launch a MALE reboot, Buddy the Vampire Slayer!?

10-11-2013, 12:21 PM	#24
Blossombrooks Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: 'hero' turtle land Posts: 946	Also very sad was that Andy Hallett who played Lorne passed away a few years ago, poor guy. __________________ There's too much green to feel blue! http://blossombrooks.deviantart.com/

10-11-2013, 06:45 PM	#26
Blossombrooks Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: 'hero' turtle land Posts: 946	That's a tough question, I guess Riley was always one of my least favourite characters and I'm sure that had nothing to do with him replacing Angel as Buffy's love interest... Eve got on my nerves quite a bit but I ended up feeling sorry for her, oh and Connor, never really thought much to him even though the idea of his character was good. __________________ There's too much green to feel blue! http://blossombrooks.deviantart.com/

10-11-2013, 11:21 PM	#27
TheCanadiandrome Big, Bad & Bold Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Inside the Technodrome; Shredderville; Saskatchewan Posts: 19,719	I liked Lorne on Angel, and of course when Spike came onto both of the shows, that made things interesting. Allot of the minor characters I remember hating, like Gun, couldn't get behind him. Loved Oz and Xander allot. Anya was cool. Near the end of Buffy's run, I kinda hated the whole "Scoobies" thing __________________ Add me: PSN/XBL; Nintendo Network ID: BDS-3.1.6; Switch FC: SW-3378-5206-8020 TMNT Fan Club: http://sot.ag/4jZR0 Visit My Wish List: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=30904 My Collection: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40276

10-13-2013, 02:45 AM	#28
TheBlueTurtle1 Foot Elite Join Date: May 2012 Location: UK Posts: 2,892	I think Gunn was my least fav, he seemed to be a little pointless, would rather they worked Doyle back in some how, even if they had made him a evil to start with and turned him good again. Such a shame the actor died, because it sounds like they were gonna do that around season 4. I thought Gunn and Angel didn't gel, where as Angel and Doyle felt like Batman and Robin __________________ http://jandmdev.deviantart.com/ (My Brother and I have a dev page, I am J, brother is M) Last edited by TheBlueTurtle1; 10-13-2013 at 04:58 PM.

10-13-2013, 03:36 AM	#29
zodiac brave Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: san antonio, tx Posts: 822	my buffyverse fandom rivals that of my tmnt fandom. (and honestly, i like angel in that regard more than buffy, but they're still both great shows!) in fact, the first internet forum i ever joined was the wb angel forum waaay back in the day. say what you will about character arcs and storylines...its true that a few plots seemed to get outta control throughout the show, but you can't deny that the way tv shows are now written, paced and executed is a result of what joss whedon and co did with these two shows. spuffy 4 life! __________________ what we were after, was lashings of ultra-violence.

10-11-2013, 06:26 PM	#25
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Who are your least favorite characters? I always thought Riley sucked, and Tara was a bit boring at the start until Season 5. Kennedy was an absolutely terrible replacement. I also never saw Gun as anything more than the token black guy on the show. It's like they felt they suddenly needed to introduce a black character and it stuck.

10-13-2013, 04:06 PM	#30
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	I just hate it that every relationship on the show was broken up at some point. It got so predictable where you couldn't care for a couple because you knew they would break up a season later.

10-13-2013, 05:04 PM	#31
TheBlueTurtle1 Foot Elite Join Date: May 2012 Location: UK Posts: 2,892	I think that killing doyle off was just such a big mistake. he brought out this great feeling within the group, he made cordelia relevant and he was Angel's sidekick. He was almost like a glue, and the group just doensn't feel the same without him there. Like said above, Gunn just feels like he's been brought in so they had a black guy there. There was enough room for Wesley, Cordy, Angel and Doyle (and whoever they introduce in the future). Episodes like the one where cordelia got pregnant would have been so interesting to have seen what doyle would have brought to the episode. Like if he never really got with her, but stayed on the brink of it to keep the audience thinking whether or not it would happen. From what I read, the actress who plays cordelia's mother was really annoyed when they killed him off lol. __________________ http://jandmdev.deviantart.com/ (My Brother and I have a dev page, I am J, brother is M)

10-13-2013, 05:09 PM	#32
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Cordelia's mother appeared in the show? I don't remember that happening.

10-13-2013, 05:31 PM	#33
Blossombrooks Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: 'hero' turtle land Posts: 946	I don't recall that either, do you mean Cordelia's daughter Jasmine, Blue Turtle? She was an interesting character, those were some creepy episodes! Speaking of creepy episodes, the Angel one 'Hell Bound' freaked me out! It was that guy in the basement shudders. __________________ There's too much green to feel blue! http://blossombrooks.deviantart.com/

10-13-2013, 05:57 PM	#34
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Some of the writing in the later episodes of Buffy and Angel were terrible to be honest. It felt at one point they finally ran out of ideas so they looked for as many ways to screw up the main characters as possible. I really don't like what happened to the majority of the main cast as the show progressed. It ruins their characters for me even when I rewatch the beginning seasons because I know what they become.

10-14-2013, 09:06 AM	#36
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Cordelia, or Charisma Carpenter, was extremely hot back in the 90's. Hard to believe she was like 30 years old while playing a High School student in the first 3 seasons.

10-16-2013, 11:36 PM	#39
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	You forgot Xander/Cordelia...but it was bound to happen since she was leaving the show at the end of that season anyway. I was only in middle school when Season 2 was airing, back then Xander/Cordelia was like my fantasy for myself in 8th grade...lol.

03-25-2018, 04:12 AM	#40
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	So, now that Disney acquired Buffy in the Fox deal, I'm willing to bet that we're going to hear about a new Buffy series to go on their streaming service sooner than later (once the deal finalizes.) I'm going to bet it's an animated series, kind of a reboot of sorts. It'll feature all the main characters and will be set in highschool again, but the creatures and such would be a little more "out there" than the TV series. Basically, it'll be like that animated pilot that didn't get picked up years ago, only with crappier animation. But yeah, they'll definitely do something with the franchise. It's had surprisingly strong staying power, no doubt in part of it being on Netflix for a younger audience to find. What do you think they'll end up doing? Animation? Reboot? Spin-off? SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS and launch a MALE reboot, Buddy the Vampire Slayer!?