Shredder vs The Turtles 2014

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

Another subtle shot is when he says "It had a name". Check out the smirk on his face.

Hahaha yeah, You can see the smirk under his mask - which makes things even better because it's subtle, implied and thinly-veiled, just like the remark itself.

When Leo's anguish is clear with the 'you lie!' reaction, he replies with a question - 'do I?'- as well as another smirk. He is taunting them with every comment. He's really quite evil in this movie and preys on people's emotions.

[Jester]

And then Secret of the Ooze happened...

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by Davetello

Hahaha yeah, You can see the smirk under his mask - which makes things even better because it's subtle, implied and thinly-veiled, just like the remark itself.

When Leo's anguish is clear with the 'you lie!' reaction, he replies with a question - 'do I?'- as well as another smirk. He is taunting them with every comment. He's really quite evil in this movie and preys on people's emotions.

All of this darkness and we are talking about a five minute clip.

Fictner says this is the darkest Shredder ever (what does he know?)

It's off topic a bit but there was not one light hearted moment with Shredder in the entire film. I love love love that the writer and Barron made him a monster.

Another part is when Splinter disappears from Casey.

Where'd he go? Another chilling moment when you know he's climbing to the top of the building to help his sons.

Sorry to rehash a lot of stuff that has been discussed but I can't get enough of it.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by Jester

And then Secret of the Ooze happened...

It was a decent film by sequel standards, and was clearly never going to live up to the original. I think the fact it's (rightly) seen as very inferior to the original is more of a compliment to the original than a slight on SotO, personally.

The film had some nice moments - I particularly enjoyed Donatello's struggle with the realisation that they were just an accident and not part of anything grander.

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

All of this darkness and we are talking about a five minute clip.

Fictner says this is the darkest Shredder ever (what does he know?)

It's off topic a bit but there was not one light hearted moment with Shredder in the entire film. I love love love that the writer and Barron made him a monster.

Another part is when Splinter disappears from Casey.

Where'd he go? Another chilling moment when you know he's climbing to the top of the building to help his sons.

Sorry to rehash a lot of stuff that has been discussed but I can't get enough of it.

Fichtner is just saying that to try and drum up interest in the film. Can't blame him really but it's highly transparent.

You're right - there's zero humour in this version of Shredder - there doesn't even seem to be any mercy. He's just completely and utterly brutal. I suppose you could say he let Danny go after finding out he'd been with the turtles.

Splinter appearing on the roof seems much like Shredder appearing from out of mid-air - both acts seem implausible in terms of time and/or physics (bearing in mind Splinter has been tied up for weeks and is wounded, as well as the frailties of age), but it's like we are being told that these two characters are masters who are capable of doing things lesser mortals are not. It's building up both of their characters for that final moment on the roof - although, to reiterate, the kicker is that Splinter's victory had little to do with pure physical martial art skill and was far more about psychology.

[MastahShredder]

If I had to guess..

Foot kidnaps Splinter, Leo, Donnie and Mikey.

Raph and April help them escape and a chase ensues with the Foot.

All of this culminizes into a showdown with Sachs.

Where? No clue.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by Raph_tha_Dude

I thought that's what you meant. Was just making sure.

No problem man. I've enjoyed the discussion - glad you have also.

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

If I had to guess..

Foot kidnaps Splinter, Leo, Donnie and Mikey.

Raph and April help them escape and a chase ensues with the Foot.

All of this culminizes into a showdown with Sachs.

Where? No clue.

That actually sounds alright, but you just know it will be executed poorly. I know I'm giving this prospective film a lot of cr*p but I just don't see any positive signs.

[MastahShredder]

Leo was swinging to kill. It appears that one of his blades slide across Shredders face piece towards the end of their battle.

Shredder was so slick with his moves and even better at blocks. So elusive as well.

[raph27]

Originally Posted by Jester

And then Secret of the Ooze happened...

NIIIIIIIIIIIINJAAAAAAAA COWWWWWWBOOOOOY!

[chrisdude]

I really feel like the fight from Nick's "The Guantlet" is the fight to beat, now.

There was that talk of "The Raid Redemption."
All the actors can talk about is how cool the action is going to be.
Will Arnett said, "You can take kids, but a lot of the action is really intense."
All the superhero/action movies are PG-13, these days.
Michael Bay.

Everything points to a PG-13 rating. So, I think we're going to see the Turtles as we've never seen them before, in terms of action on the big screen. This is one area in which I have no doubt they will excel.

[NinjaPug]

Watching Attack of the Clones now is making me realize we're probably going to get the Christopher Lee / Count Dooku treatment for the Fichtner / Shredder fight scenes. At least Shredder has a mask so the CGI head replacement won't be as noticeable.

[thebrownranger]

Originally Posted by Jester

It will take a lot for any movie to top the original for me. Sure a lot of it may be nostalgia, but there's really a lot going on under the surface of that film that makes me love it even more as an adult. Subtle things like the anguish in Splinter's voice when he tells Danny "All fathers care for their sons..." the fact that Mikey blew Donnie off when he wanted to talk about "what it would be like, you know not havin' [Splinter]..." only to see later in Northampton just how much not having Splinter DOES affect him.

Say what you will, the Steve Barron Turtle movie will be extremely hard to top...not just in the action scenes, but in its heart.

You said it. Personally, it's even hard to find the same heart behind all the other comic book crazed movies coming out in recent years. And John Du Prez's compositions were a masterpiece adding all the more to the heart and emotion of the film.

[MastahShredder]

Re-watching the scene, the smirk on Shredders face when he drops in is awesome. He was giddy to have some sort of formidable opponent.