Official Episode Discussion: S2 #7 "Slash and Destroy" - Page 2

*CyberCubed* · 11-30-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Only complaint is him having two names still. I love the idea that he is a mutated Spike but don't like how they call him two different things. At least Slash named himself instead of Mikey.

Most likely next time they see him they won't call him Spike anymore. Spike is how Raphael saw him when he was his pet turtle, but now that he's evil he won't have that affection for him anymore. I think he'll just be called Slash from now on.

*NinjaMan* · 11-30-2013, 09:39 AM

This Slash is waaayy better than IDW version.

*pannoni1* · 11-30-2013, 09:40 AM

You don't have to come from Dimension X to be brutal. Instead, it was a problem that was started not from the forces of evil but by Donnie himself, quite ironic since he was once voiced by this Slash! That was some wicked fighting by Slash. He captured Donnie in a hurry, taking his bandana along with him that doesn't appear again until the end of the episode. I liked the misconceptions that the humans would mistake for the cannisters, from antique lamps to energy drinks. I liked how Raph coped with the "April Princess" that made me wonder that he was about to be asked how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop. It was the best episode of the series so far that was Raph-centric and this proved that he is some strong dude. The big mystery that we'll be discussing is where Slash will end up next; will the Kraang/Foot capture him? Or will he meet the Turtles again seeking revenge? While not quite as fun as the previous episode, it was still an episode with a good mix of fighting and dialogue. But some of the plot stuff being used is starting to get a bit formulaic, such as certain vintage arcade games with screwups at the start of the episode, and then being reprised later, along with certain magazine/comic collectibles by Mikey.

Overall: 8/10

Megchan · 11-30-2013, 09:40 AM

It was a good episode, but it was also kind of sad. I wonder if that's how Spike/Slash really feels or if the mutagen warped his mind.

First Donnie, now Raph. This just goes to show that the best way to get stuff off your chest is through a journal and not someone who could potentially misinterpret your frustration as a reason to hurt or going after the person/people your upset with. That's just my option though. ='x'=

*MrTMNT2012* · 11-30-2013, 09:43 AM

This Episode... WAS F*#KING PERFECT!

OMG

The amount of times I fanboyed was unbelievable and SLASH... Man, what a great villain! Seriously, he's my second favourite only to The Shredder!

Where do I start? Well, first of all: this was a perfect Episode for Raphael. At one point I was getting disappointed because I thought they were gonna do the whole 'Temper' development thing again, but they quickly turned that around and made it into a fantastic arc for the character (Up there with the best Raph/Casey Stories!). The redemption was beautifully handled.

I'm so glad they also didn't forget about the other turtles and found a way to tie them into the main plot almost seamlessly. Leo's search for the mutagen and the Scene where the Raph Vs. Slash fight breaks into the little girls house was the most hilarious thing I've seen so far from the show XD. Speaking of fights, That has to be the most brutal battle yet... And I loved every second of it! The tension, suspense and drama made for an incredible sequence that's up there with The Gauntlet's ending.

Finally, I loved the resolution with Splinter's message at the end; Not dwelling on what has been lost, but instead looking at what you have now.

One of my absolute favourites: "Slash & Destroy" is a (10/10) IMO!

*NinjaPug* · 11-30-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Most likely next time they see him they won't call him Spike anymore. Spike is how Raphael saw him when he was his pet turtle, but now that he's evil he won't have that affection for him anymore. I think he'll just be called Slash from now on.

That's my hope.

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Originally Posted by NinjaMan

This Slash is waaayy better than IDW version.

I think it's the best version of Slash ever. Feldman was just awesome with the voice.

DarkLightDragon · 11-30-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Megchan

It was a good episode, but it was also kind of sad. I wonder if that's how Spike/Slash really feels or if the mutagen warped his mind.

First Donnie, now Raph. This just goes to show that the best way to get stuff off your chest is through a journal and not someone who could potentially misinterpret your frustration as a reason to hurt or going after the person/people your upset with. That's just my option though. ='x'=

Or just that even the best people can unknowingly create their own personal demons and struggle to overcome them. What Timothy/MM was to Donnie, Slash was to Raph in a way.

*Xav* · 11-30-2013, 09:45 AM

How did Slash know how to speak perfect English right away?

Chaotix12345 · 11-30-2013, 09:45 AM

Absolutely FANTASTIC episode. Did not disappoint one bit. Slash was freaking PSYCHOTIC and I loved every minute of it.

I loved just how big of a threat he was. Not only could the Turtles only barely come close to tiring him out, but he destroyed each of them in a matter of seconds. Plus, the whole thing of him being Spike made Raph hesitate and try to reason with him in a situation where he just wasn't getting anywhere. Slash truly had complete control of the fight until Raph lured him with his rage. Definitely some of the best and most dramatic action in the series yet.

To sum it up, it gave Raph some good development while introducing an awesome new version of a classic character with plenty of action and drama thrown in. This is why I love this series. Can't wait to see more of our spiky friend in the future.

*CyberCubed* · 11-30-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Xav

How did Slash know how to speak perfect English right away?

Probably the same reason he had spikes all over him and went to his adult size right away. And the same reason mutagen double-mutates Dogpound into Rahzar.

The mutagen has no rules in this show, it does whatever the writers want it to for the episode.

Megchan · 11-30-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Xav

How did Slash know how to speak perfect English right away?

Maybe because he lived with the turtles for so long?

*Allio* · 11-30-2013, 10:04 AM

just rewatched a couple of scenes with Spike in them

and for a split second...I saw it...that evil twinkle in his eye

Spoiler:

*NinjaMan* · 11-30-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

That's my hope.

I think it's the best version of Slash ever. Feldman was just awesome with the voice.

I agree he is the best version of Slash and Feldman was perfect!

*blindturtle02* · 11-30-2013, 10:10 AM

Man I loved this episode! Feldman nailed the voice. I'd always imagined Slash to sound menacing before the OT Slash episode aired in s4 when I was a kid and this auditory portrayal just blew me away. I'm not saying that Fraley did a poor job in the old show. That character was always one of my favorites, but it's like Feldman heard this voice in my head and brought it to life. Hope that makes sense. I suppose you guys would compare this type of thing to going to see a movie based on a book and seeing the characters likenesses mirroring those in your imaginations.

Can't wait until this episode is added to my video library on amazon. I'll certainly be rewatching this one. Loved the Leo and little girl scenes. Anyone know who voiced the child? I'm wondering if it is Sean Astin's little girl. That'd be neat. Also loved the Raph/Slash battle and can't wait to see more of this new turtle.

You know who I hope Slash goes after eventually? Hope he goes after SpiderBytez. That guy really got under Raph's shell and I'd love to see Vic's hairy behind handed to him by this powerhouse.

909 Turtle Fan · 11-30-2013, 10:12 AM

am I tripping or did did Raph call him self "Ol Ralph"?

*NinjaMan* · 11-30-2013, 10:13 AM

When he changed his voice to Leo's, that was creepy.

Green Machine · 11-30-2013, 10:15 AM

I loved it. I don't have much to add that wasn't already said. Now that Raphael has lost Spike as his "best friend", he can bond with Casey Jones!

turtletoons81 · 11-30-2013, 10:38 AM

holy cheesecake was that dark also i loved the whole leo getting the mutagen back without being deteced by humans,i also loved corey he was perfect as slash he was dark,sadistic and twisted i seriously gotta give gavin highnight around of applause for doing such a great job on a his first time writing on this show.

also did anyone noticed mikey wasn't dumb in this episode, i mean yeah he was pulling jokes at times in this episode but mikey came off as serious than ever.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 11-30-2013, 11:04 AM

I have to say, there's something strangely fascinating about the way Corey Feldman plays this character. For a second, I thought that was Ron Pearlman doing the voice.

*CyberCubed* · 11-30-2013, 11:11 AM

I wonder if this episode scared little kids. The show is definitely becoming a bit more violent as it progresses. Compare the battle damage of the Turtles here back to, "The Gauntlet" of Season 1.

Removing their bandanas was a nice touch.

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11-30-2013, 09:40 AM	#23
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	You don't have to come from Dimension X to be brutal. Instead, it was a problem that was started not from the forces of evil but by Donnie himself, quite ironic since he was once voiced by this Slash! That was some wicked fighting by Slash. He captured Donnie in a hurry, taking his bandana along with him that doesn't appear again until the end of the episode. I liked the misconceptions that the humans would mistake for the cannisters, from antique lamps to energy drinks. I liked how Raph coped with the "April Princess" that made me wonder that he was about to be asked how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop. It was the best episode of the series so far that was Raph-centric and this proved that he is some strong dude. The big mystery that we'll be discussing is where Slash will end up next; will the Kraang/Foot capture him? Or will he meet the Turtles again seeking revenge? While not quite as fun as the previous episode, it was still an episode with a good mix of fighting and dialogue. But some of the plot stuff being used is starting to get a bit formulaic, such as certain vintage arcade games with screwups at the start of the episode, and then being reprised later, along with certain magazine/comic collectibles by Mikey. Overall: 8/10 __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

11-30-2013, 09:40 AM	#24
Megchan Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: California Posts: 122	It was a good episode, but it was also kind of sad. I wonder if that's how Spike/Slash really feels or if the mutagen warped his mind. First Donnie, now Raph. This just goes to show that the best way to get stuff off your chest is through a journal and not someone who could potentially misinterpret your frustration as a reason to hurt or going after the person/people your upset with. That's just my option though. ='x'= __________________ Image by RamyB of TeeTurtle

11-30-2013, 09:43 AM	#25
MrTMNT2012 Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,512	This Episode... WAS F*#KING PERFECT! OMG The amount of times I fanboyed was unbelievable and SLASH... Man, what a great villain! Seriously, he's my second favourite only to The Shredder! Where do I start? Well, first of all: this was a perfect Episode for Raphael. At one point I was getting disappointed because I thought they were gonna do the whole 'Temper' development thing again, but they quickly turned that around and made it into a fantastic arc for the character (Up there with the best Raph/Casey Stories!). The redemption was beautifully handled. I'm so glad they also didn't forget about the other turtles and found a way to tie them into the main plot almost seamlessly. Leo's search for the mutagen and the Scene where the Raph Vs. Slash fight breaks into the little girls house was the most hilarious thing I've seen so far from the show XD. Speaking of fights, That has to be the most brutal battle yet... And I loved every second of it! The tension, suspense and drama made for an incredible sequence that's up there with The Gauntlet's ending. Finally, I loved the resolution with Splinter's message at the end; Not dwelling on what has been lost, but instead looking at what you have now. One of my absolute favourites: "Slash & Destroy" is a (10/10) IMO! __________________ Fav Quote - 87 Leo: "TURTLES FIGHT WITH HONOUR!" Fav Series - 2012 Nickelodeon Fav Game - Out of the Shadows Fav Comic - IDW Series Fav Movie - Liebesman's TMNT (2014)

11-30-2013, 09:45 AM	#29
Chaotix12345 Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,127	Absolutely FANTASTIC episode. Did not disappoint one bit. Slash was freaking PSYCHOTIC and I loved every minute of it. I loved just how big of a threat he was. Not only could the Turtles only barely come close to tiring him out, but he destroyed each of them in a matter of seconds. Plus, the whole thing of him being Spike made Raph hesitate and try to reason with him in a situation where he just wasn't getting anywhere. Slash truly had complete control of the fight until Raph lured him with his rage. Definitely some of the best and most dramatic action in the series yet. To sum it up, it gave Raph some good development while introducing an awesome new version of a classic character with plenty of action and drama thrown in. This is why I love this series. Can't wait to see more of our spiky friend in the future. __________________ The Lazy Shell - My nerdy musings in rarely-updated blog form!

11-30-2013, 09:39 AM	#22
NinjaMan Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,579	This Slash is waaayy better than IDW version.

11-30-2013, 09:45 AM	#28
Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,037	How did Slash know how to speak perfect English right away?

11-30-2013, 10:04 AM	#32
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,202	just rewatched a couple of scenes with Spike in them and for a split second...I saw it...that evil twinkle in his eye Spoiler: __________________

11-30-2013, 10:10 AM	#34
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	Man I loved this episode! Feldman nailed the voice. I'd always imagined Slash to sound menacing before the OT Slash episode aired in s4 when I was a kid and this auditory portrayal just blew me away. I'm not saying that Fraley did a poor job in the old show. That character was always one of my favorites, but it's like Feldman heard this voice in my head and brought it to life. Hope that makes sense. I suppose you guys would compare this type of thing to going to see a movie based on a book and seeing the characters likenesses mirroring those in your imaginations. Can't wait until this episode is added to my video library on amazon. I'll certainly be rewatching this one. Loved the Leo and little girl scenes. Anyone know who voiced the child? I'm wondering if it is Sean Astin's little girl. That'd be neat. Also loved the Raph/Slash battle and can't wait to see more of this new turtle. You know who I hope Slash goes after eventually? Hope he goes after SpiderBytez. That guy really got under Raph's shell and I'd love to see Vic's hairy behind handed to him by this powerhouse. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.

11-30-2013, 10:12 AM	#35
909 Turtle Fan Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2008 Location: Eastbound & Down Posts: 477	am I tripping or did did Raph call him self "Ol Ralph"? __________________ "Infinite possibilities have been opened to me thanks to this...Technodrome."-Ch'rell aka The Shredder, Turtles Forever "Breathe in the smoke, Oroku Saki, and meditate. Open your mind and all will become clear."-Kitsune, SHotFC #3

11-30-2013, 10:13 AM	#36
NinjaMan Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,579	When he changed his voice to Leo's, that was creepy.

11-30-2013, 10:15 AM	#37
Green Machine Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 442	I loved it. I don't have much to add that wasn't already said. Now that Raphael has lost Spike as his "best friend", he can bond with Casey Jones!

11-30-2013, 10:38 AM	#38
turtletoons81 Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2013 Location: in the wonderful land of awesomeness Posts: 206	holy cheesecake was that dark also i loved the whole leo getting the mutagen back without being deteced by humans,i also loved corey he was perfect as slash he was dark,sadistic and twisted i seriously gotta give gavin highnight around of applause for doing such a great job on a his first time writing on this show. also did anyone noticed mikey wasn't dumb in this episode, i mean yeah he was pulling jokes at times in this episode but mikey came off as serious than ever. __________________ COWABUNGA/BOOYAKASHA DUDES!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDCVP1Ls18A this music is awesome by the man himself jake "virt" kaufman

11-30-2013, 11:04 AM	#39
ObiWanFan4life Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,724	I have to say, there's something strangely fascinating about the way Corey Feldman plays this character. For a second, I thought that was Ron Pearlman doing the voice. __________________ "The force will be with you, always" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

11-30-2013, 11:11 AM	#40
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,693	I wonder if this episode scared little kids. The show is definitely becoming a bit more violent as it progresses. Compare the battle damage of the Turtles here back to, "The Gauntlet" of Season 1. Removing their bandanas was a nice touch.