The Writers/Creative Staff of Nick's TMNT Are Unperdictable

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I'd hope it would be a different character....not only do we need more girls on the show....but I like irma's design XD as a human.

Under what circumstances is it deemed necessary to have more girls? You want 50:50 ratio just to be fair? It's fine as it is.

Like in My Little Pony, does anyone care or complain about the severe lack of male characters? Nope, cause it's a girl show. Tmnt is a boys show and will be treated as such. Plus girl toys in boys show doesn't sell much so that's to bear in mind. Remembering past history, many other shows got cancelled because their toy line didn't do well. It might be the same case for Nick too.

With the recent addition of Irma (a prominent/significant role at that) it's enough for now imo. They can add more should the story plot need it and not because of some females demand it. Heck what about handicapped people! Just Mr Murakami? How unfair!! Black people need more than Baxter Stockman!! More black people!!

See?

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Under what circumstances is it deemed necessary to have more girls? You want 50:50 ratio just to be fair? It's fine as it is.

Like in My Little Pony, does anyone care or complain about the severe lack of male characters? Nope, cause it's a girl show. Tmnt is a boys show and will be treated as such. Plus girl toys in boys show doesn't sell much so that's to bear in mind. Remembering past history, many other shows got cancelled because their toy line didn't do well. It might be the same case for Nick too.

With the recent addition of Irma (a prominent/significant role at that) it's enough for now imo. They can add more should the story plot need it and not because of some females demand it. Heck what about handicapped people! Just Mr Murakami? How unfair!! Black people need more than Baxter Stockman!! More black people!!

See?

but there's lots of dudes in MLP....

big mac
spike
shining armor
those 2 minion stallions XD
discord
soarin
the bakery stallion
applejack's cousin
doctor wooves lol
blueblood
that unhappy donkey

and there's alot more that might have shown up once but have had an episode ALL about them

like those apple cider twins.
and that grilled cheese stallion

you see...I don't need the girls to be major characters or anything....I would just like some more minor girl characters......like April's aunt....or maybe even a mutant girl.....villain....ally...

so I disagree with you ^_^ I think more girls in boys shows is important, the same vice versa.

NO, they don't have to be as important....but shown sometimes so that we know they can have a voice too.

edit: forgot, TMNT is going in the right direction now it seems, by adding in Irma but if Mona lisa did come I personally think it'd be more interesting if they were separate.

[NinjaPug]

If they bring in more female characters I hope Renet is the next one.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

If they bring in more female characters I hope Renet is the next one.

Angel and Alopex would also be cool to see *_*

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

but there's lots of dudes in MLP....

big mac
spike
shining armor
those 2 minion stallions XD
discord
soarin
the bakery stallion
applejack's cousin
doctor wooves lol
blueblood
that unhappy donkey

and there's alot more that might have shown up once but have had an episode ALL about them

like those apple cider twins.
and that grilled cheese stallion

you see...I don't need the girls to be major characters or anything....I would just like some more minor girl characters......like April's aunt....or maybe even a mutant girl.....villain....ally...

so I disagree with you ^_^ I think more girls in boys shows is important, the same vice versa.

NO, they don't have to be as important....but shown sometimes so that we know they can have a voice too.

edit: forgot, TMNT is going in the right direction now it seems, by adding in Irma but if Mona lisa did come I personally think it'd be more interesting if they were separate.

Huh.. I thought last time I checked there was only a few male characters I mlp wiki page. Okay poor example then.

But again elaborate further why is it important to have more girls? Even Batman (let's see it in terms of Batman the Animated Series, the films and Arkham games) has four significant females (Catwoman, Batgirl, Harley and Ivy; others being love interests, etc.) and that's sufficient. More doesn't necessarily mean it's needed at all. It's sufficient as it is and serves to tell their stories.

[JTH]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Huh.. I thought last time I checked there was only a few male characters I mlp wiki page. Okay poor example then.

But again elaborate further why is it important to have more girls? Even Batman (let's see it in terms of Batman the Animated Series, the films and Arkham games) has like three significant females (Batgirl, Harley and Ivy; others being love interests, etc.) and that's sufficient. More doesn't necessarily mean it's needed at all. It's sufficient as it is and serves to tell their stories.

I'll agree with that, that said though, TMNT is no more a boys' show than the WWE.

And they're both in common, the female audience may be there for different reasons and some may like different characters, but they're still there.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by jth

I'll agree with that, that said though, TMNT is no more a boys' show than the WWE.

And they're both in common, the female audience may be there for different reasons and some may like different characters, but they're still there.

Much like MLP is watched by some boys/dudes but their target audience is still girls. Same as TMNT being boys show. The toy line proves that too what with Karai toy still not being available. If they believe in the number of female viewers and purchasing power, they would've included her years ago already.

Clearly that's not the case. And April is the only female in the toy line for now.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Huh.. I thought last time I checked there was only a few male characters I mlp wiki page. Okay poor example then.

But again elaborate further why is it important to have more girls? Even Batman (let's see it in terms of Batman the Animated Series, the films and Arkham games) has four significant females (Catwoman, Batgirl, Harley and Ivy; others being love interests, etc.) and that's sufficient. More doesn't necessarily mean it's needed at all. It's sufficient as it is and serves to tell their stories.

hey Batman still has more girls than TMNT XD and those are important characters. 4 is alot and that's not even including the other girls that show up. (that's basically all I'm asking for)

TMNT only has Karai and April...and we don't even know how many times we're gonna see Irma. so 2 main girls.....1 minor girl.

what I'm saying is....we are already in the 2nd season of TMNT.....is it wrong to ask for a few more ladies....to show up. Everyone is getting mutated...more girl mutants? XD

Avatar the last airbender had 6 main girls! all of them kickbutt! and that was a "boy" show.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Cartoon Network's philosophy, according to Paul Dini, is that girls are worthless to animation networks because they don't watch cartoons and buy the toys (even though they totally do). Nickelodeon may have that same mindset.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

hey Batman still has more girls than TMNT XD and those are important characters. 4 is alot and that's not even including the other girls that show up. (that's basically all I'm asking for)

TMNT only has Karai and April...and we don't even know how many times we're gonna see Irma. so 2 main girls.....1 minor girl.

what I'm saying is....we are already in the 2nd season of TMNT.....is it wrong to ask for a few more ladies....to show up. Everyone is getting mutated...more girl mutants? XD

Avatar the last airbender had 6 main girls! all of them kickbutt! and that was a "boy" show.

Like you said it's only second season. Wait for season 3 or 4 for more then. Why ask so much so soon? Batman had years across variety of mediums and those 4 characters doesn't always appear anyway.

Didn't watch Airbender cause the movie plain sucks!

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Cartoon Network's philosophy, according to Paul Dini, is that girls are worthless to animation networks because they don't watch cartoons and buy the toys (even though they totally do). Nickelodeon may have that same mindset.

I'm sure they don't....I mean look at Avatar....and legend of korra (whatever you think of it)

these 2 shows have tons of girls....LOK has Korra as the main character....

I think....Ciro is just limited to how many characters he can make....cause of the CGI....

but...with all the dudes...it would be nice to have a little more girls.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Like you said it's only second season. Wait for season 3 or 4 for more then. Why ask so much so soon? Batman had years across variety of mediums and those 4 characters doesn't always appear anyway.

Didn't watch Airbender cause the movie plain sucks!

HOLD UP HOLD UP HOLD UP!!!

you didn't watch the show....BECAUSE OF THE MOVIE!?

just--- I----it's nothing like the movie!! the movie is horrible! it's like watching batman and robin and deciding you never wanna watch the 90's batman cartoon!!

0_0 sorry for the double post.

[NinjaPug]

Ill echo BT's thoughts on Avatar. Don't let the movie keep you from watching the series. It's pretty fantastic. The movie was garbage.

[Jester]

Don't discount Renet and Radical with in Mirage...oh and Shadow. They have fairly large roles within the mythos...in that specific universe.

[victory_angel]

I agree with Baby Turtles and Ninja Pug. I admit I watched the movie first before I watched Avatar: The Last Air Bender. The original cartoon is light years better then the movie, and well worth seeing.

And it's sequel series "Legend of Korra" is just as good if not better.

Back to the thread at hand. I do agree the writers and creative staff do have lots of twists and situations that we don't see coming.

Will Donnie get trapped in Dimention X at some point mid-season?

Will Irma meet the Turtles?

Will Casey's dad and little sister turn out to be Hun and Angel?

We don't know. I mean some of them you sort of see coming through rumors, and leaked info. So April's dad turning into a bat, yeah I knew that would happen, however I expected that to happen mid-season so we would have a chance to have Kirby develop as a character. See him getting to know the Turtles, maybe assist Donnie with stuff, struggle with the concept of his daughter being trained to be a ninja.

And no, he gets mutated about the first ten minutes into the show. And we haven't seen him sense.

As for posting video's on this forum, I have nothing against it. But I think we need a thread or area where we can post our own personal videos about TMNT be they just our personal thoughts or an actual video review. Posting a thread where you just put up one of your videos is spamming.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

I agree with Baby Turtles and Ninja Pug. I admit I watched the movie first before I watched Avatar: The Last Air Bender. The original cartoon is light years better then the movie, and well worth seeing.

And it's sequel series "Legend of Korra" is just as good if not better.

Back to the thread at hand. I do agree the writers and creative staff do have lots of twists and situations that we don't see coming.

Will Donnie get trapped in Dimention X at some point mid-season?

Will Irma meet the Turtles?

Will Casey's dad and little sister turn out to be Hun and Angel?


As for posting video's on this forum, I have nothing against it. But I think we need a thread or area where we can post our own personal videos about TMNT be they just our personal thoughts or an actual video review. Posting a thread where you just put up one of your videos is spamming.

why single out Donnie? How bout any of the turtles??

and yea..maybe we should have a thread where we can just post our videos whether they are our thoughts or cool finds.

[Ashwolf]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

Will Donnie get trapped in Dimention X at some point mid-season?

Will Casey's dad and little sister turn out to be Hun and Angel?

We don't know. I mean some of them you sort of see coming through rumors, and leaked info. So April's dad turning into a bat, yeah I knew that would happen, however I expected that to happen mid-season so we would have a chance to have Kirby develop as a character. See him getting to know the Turtles, maybe assist Donnie with stuff, struggle with the concept of his daughter being trained to be a ninja.

And no, he gets mutated about the first ten minutes into the show. And we haven't seen him sense.

really hoping hun and angel show up though hun being caseys father would be more interesting, i feel like it takes away from caseys personality

thinking that don will get separated from the others during the dimension hopping but kinda after they leave dim x, also hoping that leads 2 another secondary mutation along the way

Kirby should show up again soon
1. its only ep 8-9
2. there r so many other plots lines going on in the season also, not saying hes not gonna show up more than twice but there is still the mutagen gathering along w/ the rest, but who knows, he might show up at any random ep

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

why single out Donnie? How bout any of the turtles??

and yea..maybe we should have a thread where we can just post our videos whether they are our thoughts or cool finds.

To give the other characters a chance to develop without him and forcing them to step out of their comfort zone and into Areas they take for granted because that's Donatello's department of expertise.

[Karai Samurai]

I'm going to disagree with BabyTurtles here. I don't think TMNT, or any show, needs to just throw in more women or minorities just for the sake of diversity. What we need is more well written women and minority characters.

Look at the Legend of Korra for example. While Avatar did a great job with unique and well developed female characters, I always felt that Korra relied on overused tv tropes. Korra is supposedly a "strong" character (because a girl can't lead a show without acting like a dude, right?), but in reality she's overly emotional, irrational, and boy obsessed. Lin is a spinster, and Asami is the token pretty girl that's so submissive she lacks a personality. Once her role as love interest ended, the writers didn't know what to do with her. And we all know that TMNT has stuck with the overused good girl/bad girl dichotomy where the good girl is a love interest and personality-less and the bad girl is totally irrational.

I'm not saying these are bad shows. TMNT and the Legend of Korra are by far the best shows on Nickelodeon right now. But still. A well written female character would be nice.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

To give the other characters a chance to develop without him and forcing them to step out of their comfort zone and into Areas they take for granted because that's Donatello's department of expertise.

that's true....or we can just have an episode where he gets sick and the turtles have to figure something out for him or solve something without his help. That'd probably be easier XD