martial arts - Page 2

Knuckles · 08-01-2003, 07:45 PM

If you wanna talk actual effectiveness in combat situations, for most people, karate is not the way to go--at least not the way it's generally taught in America. You're better off taking, like others have said, kung fu, for effectiveness and variety, since there are a staggering amount of disciplines. Of course, for something really effective, you'd probably wanna go for jujitsu, or better yet, Brazillian jujitsu--very effective stuff. I'm partial to kendo, myself, because it's a sword art, but just for fun, I was considering going into shotokan karate--simply because it's the style Ryu and Ken from Street Fighter use, lol. Hadou-ken!!

~~Leo656~~ · 08-01-2003, 10:06 PM

I never took martial arts, but I wrestled for a time. I haven't gotten into too many fights, but a few were with black belts in karate and I was able to basically beat the crap out of them by hooking an extremity, applying a joint lock, pulling them to the ground and locking on a restraining hold. If I were ever in a "real" fight I'd probably replace the hold at the end with some type of armbar designed to hyperextend or dislocate the elbow, or something similar designed to do maximum damage with minimal effort.

Smaller guys like me need to end fights quickly, so I personally find holds, locks and throws more effective for me than strikes and kicks. I'd rather block a punch, hook a guy's arm and break his wrist than punch him in the face or learn how to kick above my head, but that's just what works for me. I've considered taking martial arts in the past but I figure "dance with the one that brung ya".

Knuckles · 08-01-2003, 10:36 PM

Never did wrestling, but I used a similar approach to ending a fight once. The guy was bigger than me, and he tried pushing me against a wall. Of course, then I spun him around, and he tried to lift me off the ground, but I out-levered him, grabbed ahold of his arm and pinned it to his back, after which I proceeded to grab his jaw and made him gag. He gave, and I pushed him away. Needless to say, I never had any more trouble with him.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-01-2003, 10:53 PM

You used my favorite hold, Knux... the Buzz-Killer! Or a variation of it anyway.

The way I do it starts with pinning your opponents' arm behind his back and threading your own arm through his, chicken wing/hammerlock style, so your hand is on his shoulder. Then you take your other arm and cup your hand around his jaw and pull back while applying pressure on his shoulder with your other hand. To be really sadistic, interlock your hands and THEN apply pressure to the jaw/neck/shoulder area, THEN lean back and wrestle him to the ground, wrapping your legs around his waist and squeezing. At this point, you have them locked in an inescapable hold and can do almost anything you want... dislocate a jaw, seperate a shoulder, or break a rib with pressure from your legs.

I've ended a LOT of fights with it, and nobody has ever gotten out of it once it was locked in. On bigger guys, you can neutralize them. On smaller guys, they scream and beg for mercy, and THAT is what I really like.

One time I challenged my buddy who was captain of our wrestling team to get out of it. The guy was bigger than me by a fair margin, about 5 inches taller and 70-80 pounds heavier. He put up a valiant effort, but I held him in the hold for a good 7 or 8 minutes until I finally let him out.

So yeah... that's a great hold to use.

Knuckles · 08-01-2003, 11:40 PM

Right on.

DarkNinja · 08-02-2003, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knuckles

I'm partial to kendo, myself, because it's a sword art, but just for fun, I was considering going into shotokan karate--simply because it's the style Ryu and Ken from Street Fighter use, lol. Hadou-ken!!

Shotokan... really? My style is a branching of Shotokan and Kyokushinkai, which also branches off from Shotokan. Have you ever been to www.24fightingchickens.com? Last time I checked it had some pretty good stuff.

Knuckles · 08-02-2003, 10:49 AM

I just checked that site, and it looks very familiar--I think I may have been there a while back. Thanks for the link, though.

Moomintroll · 08-02-2003, 11:52 AM

All I had a chance to do was kickboxing, i never have time
as soon as I do, I will take any class that works with my insane schedule

Hamato Yoshi · 08-21-2003, 07:14 AM

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*Kid Icarus* · 08-21-2003, 07:26 PM

I took some Okanowain (can't remember how to spell it

) karate when I was about 12. I got to white belt 3rd degree when I was forced to stop because my parents coulden't get me there anymore.

I've considered finding a school that would teach me how to use my sai's, but weapons are usually reserved for higher level students =\.

I've also trained my self with the bo, although I'm more than likely doing everything wrong

. I've also gotten very profecent at wapping myself with my knunchuku

.

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08-21-2003, 07:14 AM	#29
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08-01-2003, 07:45 PM	#21
Knuckles Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 260	If you wanna talk actual effectiveness in combat situations, for most people, karate is not the way to go--at least not the way it's generally taught in America. You're better off taking, like others have said, kung fu, for effectiveness and variety, since there are a staggering amount of disciplines. Of course, for something really effective, you'd probably wanna go for jujitsu, or better yet, Brazillian jujitsu--very effective stuff. I'm partial to kendo, myself, because it's a sword art, but just for fun, I was considering going into shotokan karate--simply because it's the style Ryu and Ken from Street Fighter use, lol. Hadou-ken!!

08-01-2003, 10:06 PM	#22
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I never took martial arts, but I wrestled for a time. I haven't gotten into too many fights, but a few were with black belts in karate and I was able to basically beat the crap out of them by hooking an extremity, applying a joint lock, pulling them to the ground and locking on a restraining hold. If I were ever in a "real" fight I'd probably replace the hold at the end with some type of armbar designed to hyperextend or dislocate the elbow, or something similar designed to do maximum damage with minimal effort. Smaller guys like me need to end fights quickly, so I personally find holds, locks and throws more effective for me than strikes and kicks. I'd rather block a punch, hook a guy's arm and break his wrist than punch him in the face or learn how to kick above my head, but that's just what works for me. I've considered taking martial arts in the past but I figure "dance with the one that brung ya".

08-01-2003, 10:36 PM	#23
Knuckles Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 260	Never did wrestling, but I used a similar approach to ending a fight once. The guy was bigger than me, and he tried pushing me against a wall. Of course, then I spun him around, and he tried to lift me off the ground, but I out-levered him, grabbed ahold of his arm and pinned it to his back, after which I proceeded to grab his jaw and made him gag. He gave, and I pushed him away. Needless to say, I never had any more trouble with him.

08-01-2003, 10:53 PM	#24
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	You used my favorite hold, Knux... the Buzz-Killer! Or a variation of it anyway. The way I do it starts with pinning your opponents' arm behind his back and threading your own arm through his, chicken wing/hammerlock style, so your hand is on his shoulder. Then you take your other arm and cup your hand around his jaw and pull back while applying pressure on his shoulder with your other hand. To be really sadistic, interlock your hands and THEN apply pressure to the jaw/neck/shoulder area, THEN lean back and wrestle him to the ground, wrapping your legs around his waist and squeezing. At this point, you have them locked in an inescapable hold and can do almost anything you want... dislocate a jaw, seperate a shoulder, or break a rib with pressure from your legs. I've ended a LOT of fights with it, and nobody has ever gotten out of it once it was locked in. On bigger guys, you can neutralize them. On smaller guys, they scream and beg for mercy, and THAT is what I really like. One time I challenged my buddy who was captain of our wrestling team to get out of it. The guy was bigger than me by a fair margin, about 5 inches taller and 70-80 pounds heavier. He put up a valiant effort, but I held him in the hold for a good 7 or 8 minutes until I finally let him out. So yeah... that's a great hold to use.

08-01-2003, 11:40 PM	#25
Knuckles Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 260	Right on.

08-02-2003, 10:49 AM	#27
Knuckles Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 260	I just checked that site, and it looks very familiar--I think I may have been there a while back. Thanks for the link, though.

08-21-2003, 07:26 PM	#30
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	I took some Okanowain (can't remember how to spell it ) karate when I was about 12. I got to white belt 3rd degree when I was forced to stop because my parents coulden't get me there anymore. I've considered finding a school that would teach me how to use my sai's, but weapons are usually reserved for higher level students =\. I've also trained my self with the bo, although I'm more than likely doing everything wrong . I've also gotten very profecent at wapping myself with my knunchuku .