Does A Ninja Turtles Film Need The Shredder?

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Cryomancer

Would gladly watch a Triceratons/Fugitoid movie or one with Bishop even.

Mirage worked just fine without Shredder almost all the time, no reason a movie couldn't. 2k3's biggest weakness was it's inability to move past having a Shredder around, in my opinion. Would be great to see things go down Mirage style, and have Shredder straight up killed for sure at the end of the first movie in a series.

That is the problem I have with Mirage after three fights Shredder is removed for good but his shadow does hang over them until the end of the run. Without Krang, Rat King, and evil mutants I just cannot get into it. I feel the black and white comics needed Shredder every few arcs like with IDW thus far and have interesting other reoccurring villains.

[Sumac]

No.
But as far as pop-culture is concerned, Shredder is the ultimate villain of the Turtles, so he always will be brought back, even when there are opportunities to use somebody else.
Famous characters bring more money.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by Powder

Yeah, sequels are the one thing I am potentially excited for with this new series, because modern technology could allow them to tap into some of that crazy kinda stuff. Dimension X, A triceraton/Fugitoid story, time travel done right, etc. It may not be exactly how I want it, but to see any of them rendered in the same quality CGI would be preeeetty neat.

Yeah, all of that stuff sounds really enticing. As you say, better technology means there's a realistic chance of that sort of thing being done.

Shredder can always be killed off after the first or second film and then they could branch out into the more alien worlds in a third or even fourth film.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Sumac

No.
But as far as pop-culture is concerned, Shredder is the ultimate villain of the Turtles, so he always will be brought back, even when there are opportunities to use somebody else.
Famous characters bring more money.

The problem is every time they try to do a new tmnt movie, it bombs, so it kills any chance of rat kong or whatever in the sequel.

Shredder has to be first. He just HAS to. Nothing says tmnt like having them fight the foot. But the movie has to succeed to make way for other villains in the sequels.

[Tora]

I kinda wish they would have set up the second film for Shredder and let Baxter and his Mousers be the main threat with maybe the Purple Dragons as the fighting challenge.