2014 Splinter - Did he work? - Page 2

*CyberCubed* · 08-14-2014, 06:08 PM

I'm sure in the sequel they'll reveal he was Hamato Yoshi and Shredder is Oroku Saki.

They can't be that stupid not to.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-14-2014, 06:20 PM

They were stupid enough to try and change it in the first place, though, weren't they?

*Coola Yagami* · 08-14-2014, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm sure in the sequel they'll reveal he was Hamato Yoshi and Shredder is Oroku Saki.

They can't be that stupid not to.

No. No they won't. They are THAT stupid.

thebrownranger · 08-14-2014, 06:24 PM

I'm pretty sure the good folks at Platinum Dunes and Paramount have already proved their stupidity by making this film.

*Allio* · 08-14-2014, 06:33 PM

"You underestimate our stupidity"

*Raven* · 08-14-2014, 08:02 PM

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His FX were better on the big screen than the clips/commercials led me to believe. I guess you can see more of the detail. Not a super fan of his design though. More hair on his face and more humanoid eyes would have grounded him a little more.

Agreed, if Splinter had more hair on his face he would have been easier to take in. Although I understand they were trying to show his age with the flash backs showing how much hair he had to begin with.

I think the biggest problem I had is Splinter only existed for telling their origins. He really shined in his fight with shredder, that whole scene was amazing but beyond that he really didn't do much.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-14-2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

Agreed, if Splinter had more hair on his face he would have been easier to take in. Although I understand they were trying to show his age with the flash backs showing how much hair he had to begin with.

I think the biggest problem I had is Splinter only existed for telling their origins. He really shined in his fight with shredder, that whole scene was amazing but beyond that he really didn't do much.

well... we couldn't have him take too much screen time away from Megan Fox.

Midnight Mutant · 08-14-2014, 11:07 PM

His design was ugly as shiz, and sadly they didn't give you much of a history or screen time to really know him. We saw his discipline side, but not his compassionate side. (Aside from the flashbacks)

Aside from that one part that felt a little TOO forceful (the tail around Raph's neck) His discipline style was pretty funny and his Hashi(?) reminded me of the 2012 Splinters Randori. He kind of trolled them while disciplining them.

I guess it depends on how you view parenting honestly. Some people think a time out and a grounding is all you need, others think that you need a whoopin'.
Splinter is clearly more of the whoopin kind of parent.

Though they didn't show much, they did a really good job of showing how much Splinter loved the Turtles in his small screen time. You could really see the worry and passion he had for their safety and he was practically sacrificing himself to the Shredder to give the turtles time to run and hide. (even though they didn't)

I didn't mind him. I like the versions of Splinter that aren't all bed ridden and so old they could croak at any time.

I think he really needed more development and more time to show his fatherly, and loving side and I think he would have been easier to connect to and sympathize with.

The Vernon · 08-14-2014, 11:34 PM

No, he did not work. His eyes were far too black, as if he was possessed by the demon. His ninja action was good, but the black eyes kept me thinking if he was possessed by the demon lord. It was very distracting.

Artist · 08-15-2014, 02:01 AM

Design is not my taste, but works for this movie world. At times he looks great and at times not. His compassion is shown during the lair break in. He did kinda come off as a dick, but once he starts to speak with april and tells her about how they came to be, you can see his compassion and willingness to care for the turtles. His fight scene with ol bucket head was awesome. One hander

rodster6 · 08-15-2014, 11:35 AM

He looked ugly and our first introduction to him is basically him being tough on his kids. We never see him being loving or likable. There was also no personal connection to Shredder. Basically, I didn't care about Splinter at all in this movie. The fight between he and Shredder was so impersonal compared to what I'm used to between the two.
In the original he was cute and fatherly so when he gets captured and slapped around by Shredder, I felt for him and it was upsetting. It also seemed more bad ass when this unassuming old Rat kicked butt.

sethmartin · 08-15-2014, 11:04 PM

He actually looks and is dressed Japanese before he finds the book. That's what doesn't make sense. Unless he got his inspiration from the Shredder. Still doesn't make sense because Shredder was originally Sacks. Splinter looks really greasy and slimy too. Wasn't he suppose to be grey?

*Shark_Blade* · 08-15-2014, 11:26 PM

He's perfectly fine.

newhire13 · 08-17-2014, 10:41 AM

I didn't like the CGI but he worked fine. He's tough on his students but that's so in line with kung fu movies I don't see the problem. He obviously loves the turtles and wants their safety, he's just not a push over.

SwiftNinjaFox · 08-18-2014, 12:05 PM

I liked the strong handed discipline. Like others mention, it's very in line with the old school kung fu masters in films. Like Drunken Master where Jackie Chan's character is suppose to be sitting in a squat holding two buckets of water for 12 hours because he mouthed off (even if he did pull a Michelangelo and was actually sitting on a rock instead of doing it properly

).

As many others said, we didn't get to see too much of the fatherly side, just a few glimpses, but that's really the movie's problem with everyone. There is no bonding, no relationship, not a single scene really spent seeing how these characters interact on a daily basis.

I didn't care for his look too much. Too many inconsistencies with his look compared to his origin (or lack thereof). I didn't care for the yellow they chose for him either. It was loud and didn't seem to "fit" somehow. However, the eyes are the big factor for me too. Why does Splinter look like a humanoid animal rat while they went to such extreme lengths to ensure the turtles look more human in facial structure and eyes?

Just another inconsistency to me.

tmntpower2k14 · 08-18-2014, 03:55 PM

He wasn't rendered as realistic as the turtles, or Shredder. But his action scenes were cool, Yoda-esque. Wasn't a huge fan of his voice, and I thought his introduction of punishing the turtles was out of character, and pretty violent. At least he wasn't bailing the turtles out in their climatic conflict.

newhire13 · 08-18-2014, 05:31 PM

I felt Splinter locking them out while he tried to hold off The Shredder spoke volumes about his love for the turtles. And yeah, he completely lost his **** when he caught them sneaking in but it was also because they went above ground, something he specifically forbid because he was afraid for their lives. He didn't think they were properly trained and ready for it (And really, these turtles have super strength, can crush and throw concrete and flip cars. I'm sure they can handle discipline from Splinter lol). In general though It's tough with this property when you judge the actions of even the good guys. I mean even comic book Splinter technically sent 4 15 year olds to kill a guy out of revenge lol.

Seedkiller · 08-18-2014, 06:31 PM

Didn't like the new design at all, nor did I like the way he acted. He was kind of a dick. It's no wonder Raph and April left him behind to save the other guys. Splinter didn't look in any shape to be left unwatched! Haha.
By the way, where can I find this almighty Ninjistu book that he studied from. They should have at least had him found Bruce's book The Tao of Jeet Kune Do. Granted it's more Chinese than Japanese and a completely different art, but still holds more info than what looked to be a Barne's & Noble "How to be a ninja" clearance book for $5.99.

*IndigoErth* · 08-18-2014, 06:40 PM

Haven't really weighed in on Splinter yet...

Fairly authentically ratty looking...perhaps with a little mange going on. But dang he can be rough on his kids. :\ At their size and weight it's surprising he can handle them so well. They must have taken that rough handed version from Nick... (I don't want to say 'abusive' but if they were human in the real world it might be seen as such.)

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Originally Posted by newhire13

I felt Splinter locking them out while he tried to hold off The Shredder spoke volumes about his love for the turtles.

This too however.

*Redeemer* · 08-18-2014, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeoRaph

Guys, I'm yet to see the movie and will see it for free in the next month(thank god for movie reward points) but I haven't seen any threads specifically on Splinter, so I thought I'd create a thread for those who have seen it to discuss what people thought of the new Splinter. What they didn't like about him and what they did like about him, etc.. (Spoilers are fine, I've seen the last 8 minutes of the movie and read pretty much everything, still going to see it anyway)

Because as it stands right now from what I've seen he does not work at all. Apart from Splinter's terrible design (the turtles are able to have human like eyes yet his are all black go figure) and what seems to be unfinished cgi his personality seems to have no warmth what so ever, his voice is just so jarring.

Does he get better or is he really that bad?

I actually think Splinter has the best fight scenes and he is great during the pizza scene

"I have here the 99 Cheese pizza!!!!"

08-14-2014, 06:24 PM	#24
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08-14-2014, 06:33 PM	#25
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,208	"You underestimate our stupidity" __________________

08-14-2014, 11:07 PM	#28
Midnight Mutant Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 249	His design was ugly as shiz, and sadly they didn't give you much of a history or screen time to really know him. We saw his discipline side, but not his compassionate side. (Aside from the flashbacks) Aside from that one part that felt a little TOO forceful (the tail around Raph's neck) His discipline style was pretty funny and his Hashi(?) reminded me of the 2012 Splinters Randori. He kind of trolled them while disciplining them. I guess it depends on how you view parenting honestly. Some people think a time out and a grounding is all you need, others think that you need a whoopin'. Splinter is clearly more of the whoopin kind of parent. Though they didn't show much, they did a really good job of showing how much Splinter loved the Turtles in his small screen time. You could really see the worry and passion he had for their safety and he was practically sacrificing himself to the Shredder to give the turtles time to run and hide. (even though they didn't) I didn't mind him. I like the versions of Splinter that aren't all bed ridden and so old they could croak at any time. I think he really needed more development and more time to show his fatherly, and loving side and I think he would have been easier to connect to and sympathize with. __________________

08-15-2014, 11:35 AM	#31
rodster6 Thug Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 76	He looked ugly and our first introduction to him is basically him being tough on his kids. We never see him being loving or likable. There was also no personal connection to Shredder. Basically, I didn't care about Splinter at all in this movie. The fight between he and Shredder was so impersonal compared to what I'm used to between the two. In the original he was cute and fatherly so when he gets captured and slapped around by Shredder, I felt for him and it was upsetting. It also seemed more bad ass when this unassuming old Rat kicked butt. Last edited by rodster6; 08-16-2014 at 06:34 AM.

08-18-2014, 12:05 PM	#35
SwiftNinjaFox Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 924	I liked the strong handed discipline. Like others mention, it's very in line with the old school kung fu masters in films. Like Drunken Master where Jackie Chan's character is suppose to be sitting in a squat holding two buckets of water for 12 hours because he mouthed off (even if he did pull a Michelangelo and was actually sitting on a rock instead of doing it properly ). As many others said, we didn't get to see too much of the fatherly side, just a few glimpses, but that's really the movie's problem with everyone. There is no bonding, no relationship, not a single scene really spent seeing how these characters interact on a daily basis. I didn't care for his look too much. Too many inconsistencies with his look compared to his origin (or lack thereof). I didn't care for the yellow they chose for him either. It was loud and didn't seem to "fit" somehow. However, the eyes are the big factor for me too. Why does Splinter look like a humanoid animal rat while they went to such extreme lengths to ensure the turtles look more human in facial structure and eyes? Just another inconsistency to me. __________________ Ninja Fox Games & Geekery: http://ninjafoxgames..com/

08-14-2014, 06:08 PM	#21
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,838	I'm sure in the sequel they'll reveal he was Hamato Yoshi and Shredder is Oroku Saki. They can't be that stupid not to.

08-14-2014, 06:20 PM	#22
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	They were stupid enough to try and change it in the first place, though, weren't they?

08-14-2014, 11:34 PM	#29
The Vernon Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 32	No, he did not work. His eyes were far too black, as if he was possessed by the demon. His ninja action was good, but the black eyes kept me thinking if he was possessed by the demon lord. It was very distracting.

08-15-2014, 02:01 AM	#30
Artist Thug Join Date: May 2014 Location: NM Burque Posts: 93	Design is not my taste, but works for this movie world. At times he looks great and at times not. His compassion is shown during the lair break in. He did kinda come off as a dick, but once he starts to speak with april and tells her about how they came to be, you can see his compassion and willingness to care for the turtles. His fight scene with ol bucket head was awesome. One hander

08-15-2014, 11:04 PM	#32
sethmartin Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 706	He actually looks and is dressed Japanese before he finds the book. That's what doesn't make sense. Unless he got his inspiration from the Shredder. Still doesn't make sense because Shredder was originally Sacks. Splinter looks really greasy and slimy too. Wasn't he suppose to be grey?

08-15-2014, 11:26 PM	#33
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	He's perfectly fine.

08-17-2014, 10:41 AM	#34
newhire13 Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 447	I didn't like the CGI but he worked fine. He's tough on his students but that's so in line with kung fu movies I don't see the problem. He obviously loves the turtles and wants their safety, he's just not a push over.

08-18-2014, 03:55 PM	#36
tmntpower2k14 Thug Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 74	He wasn't rendered as realistic as the turtles, or Shredder. But his action scenes were cool, Yoda-esque. Wasn't a huge fan of his voice, and I thought his introduction of punishing the turtles was out of character, and pretty violent. At least he wasn't bailing the turtles out in their climatic conflict.

08-18-2014, 05:31 PM	#37
newhire13 Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 447	I felt Splinter locking them out while he tried to hold off The Shredder spoke volumes about his love for the turtles. And yeah, he completely lost his **** when he caught them sneaking in but it was also because they went above ground, something he specifically forbid because he was afraid for their lives. He didn't think they were properly trained and ready for it (And really, these turtles have super strength, can crush and throw concrete and flip cars. I'm sure they can handle discipline from Splinter lol). In general though It's tough with this property when you judge the actions of even the good guys. I mean even comic book Splinter technically sent 4 15 year olds to kill a guy out of revenge lol.

08-18-2014, 06:31 PM	#38
Seedkiller Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Hell Posts: 190	Didn't like the new design at all, nor did I like the way he acted. He was kind of a dick. It's no wonder Raph and April left him behind to save the other guys. Splinter didn't look in any shape to be left unwatched! Haha. By the way, where can I find this almighty Ninjistu book that he studied from. They should have at least had him found Bruce's book The Tao of Jeet Kune Do. Granted it's more Chinese than Japanese and a completely different art, but still holds more info than what looked to be a Barne's & Noble "How to be a ninja" clearance book for $5.99.