Discussion about Raphael

[Coola Yagami]

I think the main reason Raph tries to talk Don out of pursuing April is because she doesn't really seem into it (well, he wasn't around to see them kiss). I'm sure if April actually started dating Don, Raph wouldn't have much to complain about. He wouldn't have trouble with Leo chasing Karai if she wasn't a Foot member.

[travelingcat]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Kind of have to agree with that. Maybe not so much in that he's just waiting until Leo is back in order so he can be free to loose his cool again, but with all that's happened I'd think he'd need to try to keep his head about him to help keep his family strong. And likewise the rest really. Not going to help anyone if someone decides to go have a breakdown.

And heck, maybe the sunlight and open space is good for them. I mean, how wouldn't that have a bit of a calming effect. (Ok, so the woods are full of monsters and other creatures, just stay out of that part.)

Maybe, despite Raph's protests of not belonging there, he was a bit stir crazy living down in the lair all their lives and rarely seeing daylight. (Besides, they should be good with this farm stuff, after all they were born with green thumbs. )

Yep. Really Raph's actually taking responsibility for the team on the farm, and it is a big improvement from the sewers where he'd read comics or mock his brothers. Plus the relief that his brother finally came out of his 3 month coma and his family is getting back on it's feet has got to be more uplifting than any minor irritations. Any anger he's got from the S2 finale is going to stay in until they face the Foot again in New York. I just hope is comes out in a sweet kickass fury.

[CyberCubed]

This thread feels like a tumblr defense post. "likes this" "Reblog"

[IndigoErth]

I am baffled you don't understand the world is tumblr.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This thread feels like a tumblr defense post. "likes this" "Reblog"

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This thread feels like a tumblr defense post. "likes this" "Reblog"

I don't know jack about tumblr, but since you demonize as much as you do, you must frequent there on a daily basis...

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

I don't know jack about tumblr, but since you demonize as much as you do, you must frequent there on a daily basis...

He's on there all the time, creeping on the teenage girls.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Davetello

He's on there all the time, creeping on the teenage girls.

Hm, so is that why he knows what size a teen girl's bust should be?

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Hm, so is that why he knows what size a teen girl's bust should be?

No, that's from spying on his sister in the shower.

[PangolinFeets]

Originally Posted by Mellie

Season 3 rumors from NYCC. I hope it's real because I'm getting too excited.

If you consider words straight from the producer's mouth a 'rumor'... :3

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

He's still a hot head. I know all about them because I am one myself. When we have one of them moods, it don't take much to set us off. It could be something annoying like someone snoring, a cricket chirping outside, a leaky faucet dripping, a dog barking way out in the distance. Sure, it's only two episodes in, but still, it's strange to not see him getting pissed off about something.

Maybe it's because Raphael doesn't have to deal with the overbearing presence of worrying about humans discovering them, or the perpetual threat of the Kraang and Shredder. Even though they still have threats (with new mutants), at least they don't have deal with the overbearing atmosphere which causes them to hide in the sewers.

I mean Northampton has typically been used as a respite in the franchise from the pressured and trying atmosphere of New York City.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

Maybe it's because Raphael doesn't have to deal with the overbearing presence of worrying about humans discovering them, or the perpetual threat of the Kraang and Shredder. Even though they still have threats (with new mutants), at least they don't have deal with the overbearing atmosphere which causes them to hide in the sewers.

I mean Northampton has typically been used as a respite in the franchise from the pressured and trying atmosphere of New York City.

Seems it's good therapy for Raph. As mentioned, he'll probably revert back if he heads back, especially if he sees Shredder.

[coxfire]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This thread feels like a tumblr defense post. "likes this" "Reblog"

Says the guy that bitches like a fangirl over Triceratons and whine over and over about Seth Green. Oh, the irony.

I understand that Leo and Don need more "help" than the two others regarding popularity, and have nothing against it, but as someone who loves all four equally, it makes me tick when I start to feel like the two others are afterthoughts.
I've already expressed my disappointement regarding his treatement in the second half of S2. I thought he was very well handled in S1, and up to the Good, the Bad and Casey Jones. He was flawed and temperamental, but had some very good snark and showed great pragmatism on the field. As stated by another poster, he has good instincts and allow the team to move forward when Leo and Donnie might overthink stuffs while staying focused unlike Mikey. Unfortunately, the second part of S2 tended to make him more whiny/grumpy than snarky/sarcastic, and turned him almost into a bully.
There were also complaints about his lack of involvement in the fights in late S2 and the overuse of the Worf effect on him, which was verging on the Badass Decay.
Thus, I was glad to see that part of this was corrected in the beginning of S3, at lest when it comes to his grumpiness. Now, the opener still treated him poorly as far as fights goes, but the last one showed he wasn't afraid on taking on Bigfoot, so that's progress.

Maybe it's because Raphael doesn't have to deal with the overbearing presence of worrying about humans discovering them, or the perpetual threat of the Kraang and Shredder. Even though they still have threats (with new mutants), at least they don't have deal with the overbearing atmosphere which causes them to hide in the sewers.

Raph's temper is also not at all compatible with being stuck in the sewers. He has such an explosive nature, being scooped up underground might enhance his feelings of being trapped, whereas in Northampton, he can blow some steam outside without the risk of being discovered and jeoparidizing his life and his family's.

My cousin was noticing it too, and she thinks it's because Splinter is out of the picture, and that while Raph does love Splinter, it could be the way Splinter treats him that has made him so angry over the years, and now that he's not there to aggravate and spur Raph into one of his rages, Raph's been calm

I wouldn't go that far, but Raph/Splinter (and Splinter/Mikey, for what's worth) interactions are something I'd like to see more. I don't think we had one scene between them two -apart in Turtle Temper- where Splinter wasn't scolding Raph in one way or another. I know most of it is used as humor or to teach a lesson, but I'd really like to have just one scene where someone tries to understand the origin of that rage, instead of patronizing Raph for it.

I hope his backstory regarding the crack of his shell will not be reduced to just explaining how it was cracked but also used as an opportunity to see more of his character (in all the limited possibilities a kid-oriented show can provide)

[Shark_Blade]

I'm all for Raph being gay or just plain loner type. We've had enough lovers right now.

I heard they're gonna make Renet as Mikey's "love interest". Ohmigosh...maybe I'll like it too, but I pretty much like Mikey and Raph not having anyone to cling with. They're happy doing their own thing and not dependent on opposite gender relationship.

[coxfire]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I'm all for Raph being gay or just plain loner type. We've had enough lovers right now.

I heard they're gonna make Renet as Mikey's "love interest". Ohmigosh...maybe I'll like it too, but I pretty much like Mikey and Raph not having anyone to cling with. They're happy doing their own thing and not dependent on opposite gender relationship.

Amen to that. I hate how characters can lose their substance and individuality once they are entangled in a romantic plot. Raph being a loner is 100% fine with me.

[aliena]

First of all, thank you to everyone for your kind welcome. I'm still figuring out how this all works, but You guys all have amazing ideas and I wish I'd found this place back in July. There were so many great ideas for Raph. I knew some would prefer that he have no romance, and I would take him with or without it, I just want him to have more episodes.

I also love it when he has it out with Leo, that's great too. One other thing I forgot to mention is when Raph had that fight with that Kraang bot in the Dimension X episode, he was so cool! I actually loved how it went from weapons to fists and then in the end he was kicking him on the ground. I think they break away to lessen the violence he's inflicting on the Kraang. I've only seen the episode once, I've got to see it again at some point.

Oh, and those who said they can't wait for Dark Raph, I can not wait to see that episode and the vision quest one, and the cracked shell episode. I hope they show where his anger comes from as well. Too much to discuss, but at least I have others to talk to about it.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Out of all four turtles, Raph is definitely the most interesting choice to write a story for. There are so many dark and serious elements you can do for a Raphael episode. They need to take advantage of this because Raph out of all for turtles is getting the least amount of screen time in this series. Outside the bullying aspect which I believe is falling out thankfully, they're doing a pretty good job with him, personality wise.

[Luckyday]

Out the four turtles, Raph is closest to being the everyman. He is what any adolescent boy would feel if they were in his position.

What really help with this version was that he's not always angry or brooding. He's sometimes a little mischievous, cocky, rebellious, and ambitious. I find that really refreshing.

[RandomtasticFantasy]

Originally Posted by coxfire

Amen to that. I hate how characters can lose their substance and individuality once they are entangled in a romantic plot. Raph being a loner is 100% fine with me.

I agree completely. To make a very long, possibly off topic rant short, Donnie's crush on April wouldn't be exasperating to watch (well, for me) if they didn't make Donnie annoying about...and it show up so frequently that a person could arguably call it a defining characteristic in this incarnation.

Raph...I want to see get depth. Not just the usual 'control the anger' subplot he always gets stuck with, but just growth as a fighter and as a general person that can open up more emotionally as a friend and family member. It's why I adored him with Mikey in the finale.

[Leofan26]

I'm just glad he's getting episodes this season,some I guess to focus on the character right? From what I've been reading in interviews and dark Raph

That's some thing to look forward to