Live-Action "Static Shock" Series

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by Allio

can't wait for his twitter posts, outta be another classic for jaden

He deleted his Twitter.

[Leo656]

Kid couldn't even get a gig playing the lead in a high school drama club production of "Fresh Prince of Bel Aire" if not for who is Daddy is.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Kid couldn't even get a gig playing the lead in a high school drama club production of "Fresh Prince of Bel Aire" if not for who is Daddy is.

Well he has his privileges but honestly there are tons of actors that got into acting because of their parents being actors.

I just don't get why people think he's a horrible actor? (other than After Earth)

The kid has only been in....like 4 movies....and I liked 2 of those movies he was in.....

[Leo656]

"You liked" doesn't equal "Is good", is the thing.

He's passable compared to most kid actors, but the inordinate amount of money, attention, and opportunities he gets is pretty ridiculous considering it's all based on an accident of birth. It doesn't help that every time he talks in public he comes off as a pretentious little douche. Which is kind of insufferable without any life experience behind it. Past that, it's just such a lazy choice for the role. You know they didn't even work at finding anyone. "We need a young-ish black guy. I know! Will Smith's kid! I mean, he's awful, but people know who he is! Make it so!"

Objectively, his old man was no great shakes as an actor, either. I'd argue that Will Smith is not an actor. Will Smith simply plays Will Smith, in a manner which makes us enjoy him and occasionally want to see more of him. But I'd stop short of calling him an "actor", he just does his thing, even having his own script doctors to make all his roles "Will Smith-ier". His kid has zero percent of his charisma, though, so the fact that he can't act is only highlighted further. Kinda sucks for anyone who might get some of those roles on merit, but doesn't have a famous Daddy. I'unno.

You're right nepotism happens a lot in the entertainment business but I won't say I'm a fan of it. Other than Kiefer and Emilio it really never seems to pan out or be worth it for everyone else. And even when you do get an Emilio, you still have to put up with Charlie. So yeah, kinda not a fan of people getting big parts based on DNA. There's people wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars at "performance arts" schools who can't even get a toothpaste commercial, y'know? Eh.

[BabyTurtles]

I disagree I think Will is an awesome actor ^_^ my favorite movie of him is I-robot (pretty sure that's not how he usually acts in real life so I don't get what you mean by he's just "playing himself")

and Jaden is not going to be the reason I don't give this show a shot, especially since we haven't even seen him in action.

I mean it's a Static Shock show, I'm gonna give it the benefit of the doubt, and if it turns out horrible then it turns out horrible, but not giving it a chance is ridiculous.

[Leo656]

Will Smith has a "guy", whose entire job is to rewrite all of the dialog for any character Smith plays, to ensure that every character Will Smith plays talks exactly like Will Smith would in that situation. True story.

That is the complete and total opposite of "acting".

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Will Smith has a "guy", whose entire job is to rewrite all of the dialog for any character Smith plays, to ensure that every character Will Smith plays talks exactly like Will Smith would in that situation. True story.

That is the complete and total opposite of "acting".

Well then I guess his fake acting is working, cause I enjoy him.

[Leo656]

That's fine, he's totally non-offensive and even charming. There's nothing wrong with people liking Will Smith as a person, or the cadence or comedic timing of his speaking voice.

But he's not an actor, if we're applying the "acting" part literally. He doesn't "act", he reads lines and delivers them as Himself. Which *should* be a completely different thing. Swimming isn't fishing, just because you do both things in the water, y'know?

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Leo656

That's fine, he's totally non-offensive and even charming. There's nothing wrong with people liking Will Smith as a person, or the cadence or comedic timing of his speaking voice.

But he's not an actor, if we're applying the "acting" part literally. He doesn't "act", he reads lines and delivers them as Himself. Which *should* be a completely different thing. Swimming isn't fishing, just because you do both things in the water, y'know?

I still think that's kinda a harsh assumption to make about Will. That's like saying he doesn't try and I don't think that's a fair remark.

[Leo656]

I disagree. It's a perfectly valid criticism of the guy's range or lack thereof and I'm far from the first person to point it out.

"Here, Script Guy. Make sure every word my character says sounds *exactly* like it would if Fresh Prince said it." That's not acting! If anything it would be more accurate to call him an "entertainer" than an actor.

Still fine, by the way. Dude has ALL the money, so y'know, He Wins. But he's in the same pile as Hulk Hogan, Dwayne Johnson, Roddy Piper, and that guy from the Transporter movies. Call it the "I Do Movies, But Only Play Myself" club. They're not actors; they do movies, but they only play One Part: "Themselves". Stick Tony Danza in there, too.

I mean it's fine, they get paid. THEY clearly don't care, or they'd, y'know, have learned to act, at some point. But they don't have to, people want to pay them to be themselves, so that's what they give the audience. If they ain't mad, why are you? Did Will Smith drive you to school or something? Stop taking everything so personally! So he isn't an actor, just a super-rich "Entertainer". He still wins! I was just pointing out a fact that the dude's got zero range. It's not harsh if it's true!

[snake]

Why.


Jayden is such an unemotional little sh*t.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I disagree. It's a perfectly valid criticism of the guy's range or lack thereof and I'm far from the first person to point it out.

"Here, Script Guy. Make sure every word my character says sounds *exactly* like it would if Fresh Prince said it." That's not acting! If anything it would be more accurate to call him an "entertainer" than an actor.

Still fine, by the way. Dude has ALL the money, so y'know, He Wins. But he's in the same pile as Hulk Hogan, Dwayne Johnson, Roddy Piper, and that guy from the Transporter movies. Call it the "I Do Movies, But Only Play Myself" club. They're not actors; they do movies, but they only play One Part: "Themselves". Stick Tony Danza in there, too.

I mean it's fine, they get paid. THEY clearly don't care, or they'd, y'know, have learned to act, at some point. But they don't have to, people want to pay them to be themselves, so that's what they give the audience. If they ain't mad, why are you? Did Will Smith drive you to school or something? Stop taking everything so personally! So he isn't an actor, just a super-rich "Entertainer". He still wins! I was just pointing out a fact that the dude's got zero range. It's not harsh if it's true!

Well, true to you at least, unless you have some proof to back it up.

[Leo656]

I humbly submit to the court as "proof", every appearance Will Smith ever made on film, from "Parents Just Don't Understand" up to and including "After Earth", with special attention given to "Wild Wild West".

Look, let's not confuse Facts with personal preferences. He's got charisma for days, impeccable timing, and he's probably a pretty nice guy. People can enjoy his work and there's nothing at all bad about that, him, or his body of work in general. All *I'M* saying is, he really only plays one character. And... all the "proof" anyone needs is right there in his entire career in front of a camera.

Whether or not it bugs you, well, that's personal. That's just preference. But he does NOT have a lot of range and that's just how it is. Sorry, but like I said, it's not personal.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I humbly submit to the court as "proof", every appearance Will Smith ever made on film, from "Parents Just Don't Understand" up to and including "After Earth", with special attention given to "Wild Wild West".

Look, let's not confuse Facts with personal preferences. He's got charisma for days, impeccable timing, and he's probably a pretty nice guy. People can enjoy his work and there's nothing at all bad about that, him, or his body of work in general. All *I'M* saying is, he really only plays one character. And... all the "proof" anyone needs is right there in his entire career in front of a camera.

Whether or not it bugs you, well, that's personal. That's just preference. But he does NOT have a lot of range and that's just how it is. Sorry, but like I said, it's not personal.

I'm not trying to make it personal...I'm just trying to understand why you think that.

I guess I just don't see him acting the same all the time.....I mean his acting in Fresh Prince is totally different from I-robot...which is different from Hancock.......so....I'm just confused here....

[Leo656]

Likewise, other than making more or less wisecracks as the situation calls for, *I'm* not seeing his supposed depth he has across all his different roles. Will Smith is Will Smith. You know exactly what you're gonna get when you hear he's doing a role.

And that's fine. There's nothing wrong with taking your one gimmick and riding it all the way to the bank. I'm just not the type of guy to project things that don't exist onto people just because I like them. I'm the world's biggest Hulk Hogan fan; that guy REALLY only ever played one role, and he's actually done about as many movies as Will Smith by now (just nothing anyone would've seen ). I love the guy; I'm just not going to pretend he's a master thespian. And I'm not gonna say he's as good or "better" than Will Smith, goodness knows, that's silly. I'm just saying, they've both figured out how to make tons of money in the movie business by basically being themselves.

Good for them. Not mad at 'em. But I won't call it "acting". Not when a guy specifically has their fictional characters changed to identically match their real-life persona. Hey, they didn't have to "act", they got to stick to their strengths. That's cool. When you have enough charisma you can do anything you want. But it's not acting, in its traditional definition.

As the master thespian Wesley Snipes once said, "You can put a cat in the oven, but that don't make it a biscuit."

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Likewise, other than making more or less wisecracks as the situation calls for, *I'm* not seeing his supposed depth he has across all his different roles. Will Smith is Will Smith. You know exactly what you're gonna get when you hear he's doing a role.

And that's fine. There's nothing wrong with taking your one gimmick and riding it all the way to the bank. I'm just not the type of guy to project things that don't exist onto people just because I like them. I'm the world's biggest Hulk Hogan fan; that guy REALLY only ever played one role, and he's actually done about as many movies as Will Smith by now (just nothing anyone would've seen ). I love the guy; I'm just not going to pretend he's a master thespian. And I'm not gonna say he's as good or "better" than Will Smith, goodness knows, that's silly. I'm just saying, they've both figured out how to make tons of money in the movie business by basically being themselves.

Good for them. Not mad at 'em. But I won't call it "acting". Not when a guy specifically has their fictional characters changed to identically match their real-life persona. Hey, they didn't have to "act", they got to stick to their strengths. That's cool. When you have enough charisma you can do anything you want. But it's not acting, in its traditional definition.

As the master thespian Wesley Snipes once said, "You can put a cat in the oven, but that don't make it a biscuit."

I think I get what you're saying now....I think XD