How did Splinter survive?

[ProactiveMan]

I just assumed it was the quickening.

[pennydreadful]

There can be only one!!!

[Gunstar_Red]

I guess I completely tuned out continuity by the end of the film. That is a great question that actually has no canon answer. Were we suppose to clap our hands if we believed Splinter would be okay during that scene? ^_^;

Honestly, I'm not surprised it was overlooked by the editing department. Like me, I bet they were just happy the movie was over. They earned their pay checks with all the work they had to do to make the movie half way understandable.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Well they show two being filled





BUUUUUUUUUUUT they also show one filled after Vern gets shot...so just bad continuity from a bad director.



There were photos released of Vern in the Lair so I'm wondering if they just cut all of that out? Maybe they filmed Vern bringing them the Mutagen. Guess we'll never know!

[Leo656]

Very possible. Apparently, based on the guys from Latino Review who were on-set during filming, huge chunks of the entire movie were different from what they saw being filmed.

So yeah, major continuity issues. But a lot of that comes from the production team's overall attitude of, "Eh, we'll just fix it all in post" with regard to any of those issues. They took for granted that the audience wouldn't notice any of the discrepancies, because they figured everyone would be too hypnotized by the CGI to actually think for five seconds. Which is insulting any way you slice it.

And nah, we'll know for sure one day soon enough. Might take ten years, but stuff always comes out about these "disaster" shoots from the people who were there. Look at all the stuff just now coming out about the legendary Nic Cage/Tim Burton/"Superman" abortion, and that was almost 20 years ago. I can't wait, personally. The BTS on this movie is infinitely more interesting than the fluff they actually charged people money to see. Can't nobody deny that.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

Well they show two being filled

http://i.imgur.com/GvXTjnt.jpg



BUUUUUUUUUUUT they also show one filled after Vern gets shot...so just bad continuity from a bad director.

http://i.imgur.com/aJeU6o7.jpg

There were photos released of Vern in the Lair so I'm wondering if they just cut all of that out? Maybe they filmed Vern bringing them the Mutagen. Guess we'll never know!

That shot also shows that what's flowing into the machine is red. Like I was saying. Even though this scene takes place after Sacks has extracted the mutagen from the turtles' blood at the mansion, here he is in New York, and he's got blood again. I think it's pretty apparent that this scene was originally meant to depict Sacks extracting the mutagen from the turtles' blood, not some secondary process that he needed to go to New York for. I'd bet money this is all because they split Sacks and Shredder into two characters, and had to put that character in two places at once.

If Shredder attacking the lair, Sacks antagonizing the captured turtles, Shredder fighting Raph, Sacks in the lab with April and Vernon, and Shredder fighting the turtles on the rooftop, were all the same guy when they filmed those scenes, we're probably lucky the story works as well as it does. A disappearing mutagen canister is small potatoes.

I'm not excusing it. I wish they'd kept Sachs/Shredder. But it's a little pointless the keep saying, "How could they let these continuity errors slip by?" when we all know this movie is a massive patch job. It's like asking a guy no thumbs why he keeps dropping things.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

we're probably lucky the story works as well as it does.

It doesn't. Not at all.

I wish they'd kept Sachs/Shredder.

Gross.

[Xav]

I gotta admit as silly as Shredder being a middle-aged businessman would've been. I don't think it was worth it to mess up the plot just so we could have a couple scenes of some random Asian guy.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Xav

I gotta admit as silly as Shredder being a middle-aged businessman would've been. I don't think it was worth it to mess up the plot just so we could have a couple scenes of some random Asian guy.

Or they could have gone the right way to begin with and not bothered at all with white middle-aged businessman.

[Xav]

In hindsight sure. But we can't do anything now. We are stuck with the movie we got.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Xav

In hindsight sure. But we can't do anything now. We are stuck with the movie we got.

What is this if not hindsight?

I gotta admit as silly as Shredder being a middle-aged businessman would've been. I don't think it was worth it to mess up the plot just so we could have a couple scenes of some random Asian guy.

[chrisdude]

Since they were already filming the movie, we can assume that these filmmakers thought they had a good thing going before people freaked over Sachs/Shredder. Criticizing them from that point on is the gracious thing to do.

[Nameless]

to be honest this question bugged the heck out of me the first time i watched the movie... my GF old me the second canister so i accepted it and watched for that the second time... i was happy to see the 2 full canisters and then disappointed to see the single canister.... continuity errors drive me crazy...

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Since they were already filming the movie, we can assume that these filmmakers thought they had a good thing going before people freaked over Sachs/Shredder. Criticizing them from that point on is the gracious thing to do.

Clearly they didn't if they panicked and changed it at the last second.

[neatoman]

How Splinter survived? He's too iconic to die in the first movie, that's why Shredder was implied to have survived. Maybe they'll die later on but never the in the first.

Character they might drop in the sequels are Vern, Thompson and Karai (though she's the least likely to be dropped of those three). I know Fichtner claims to have signed on for more movies, so I'm guessing Sacks will play a part in the sequels somehow.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Clearly they didn't if they panicked and changed it at the last second.

The sentence. Read the sentence. I said before people freaked about Sachs/Shredder.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Character they might drop in the sequels are Vern, Thompson and Karai (though she's the least likely to be dropped of those three).

Will Arnett is already confirmed to appear in the sequel.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Xav

Will Arnett is already confirmed to appear in the sequel.

Ugh... Well at least Vernon's attempts at getting April isn't as annoying as Donnie's in the Nick cartoon...

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Ugh... Well at least Vernon's attempts at getting April isn't as annoying as Donnie's in the Nick cartoon...

Neither are annoying. Vern's attempts are mired in "douchebag."

Hence the fedora joke in the movie.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Neither are annoying. Vern's attempts are mired in "douchebag."

Hence the fedora joke in the movie.

Douchebag is annoying, as is yoyo stalker behaviour...