What are some touchy subjects you never debate in real life?

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Jephael

and said wistfully "I had the best sex last New Years."

I'd be thinking, "365 days in a year and it was only that good once, a year ago? Sorry to hear?"

I'm sorry, but if someone feels the need to brag about something that most other people are out there doing as well, maybe they need a fuller life.

It's not like you have a wonderful rare condition that makes you crap bricks of gold. Proclaiming that you got laid is like saying you woke up and were still breathing. Yeah, us too.

[DarthRaphael]

Nothing wrong with this topic so far.

Politics and religion are the big two. Every other topic ends up under one of those two subjects. I only discuss these with like-minded individuals since I discovered that trying to change another person's beliefs is so very close to a completely futile act. This is especially true on the internet, but can be explosive and friendship ending in person.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by DarthRaphael

I discovered that trying to change another person's beliefs is so very close to a completely futile act. This is especially true on the internet, but can be explosive and friendship ending in person.

Or worse... it can make enemies.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by DarthRaphael

Nothing wrong with this topic so far.

Politics and religion are the big two. Every other topic ends up under one of those two subjects. I only discuss these with like-minded individuals since I discovered that trying to change another person's beliefs is so very close to a completely futile act. This is especially true on the internet, but can be explosive and friendship ending in person.

I make a habit of using beliefs as a way to measure the worthiness of someone to be my friend in the first place.

Someone who doesn't view me as an equal doesn't get the privilege of having me as a friend. Last thing I want to be is someone's "token ___" friend.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I'd be thinking, "365 days in a year and it was only that good once, a year ago? Sorry to hear?"

I'm sorry, but if someone feels the need to brag about something that most other people are out there doing as well, maybe they need a fuller life.

It's not like you have a wonderful rare condition that makes you crap bricks of gold. Proclaiming that you got laid is like saying you woke up and were still breathing. Yeah, us too.

Why does sex get such special treatment?
I mean, what if she'd said: "I had the best burger last new years!"
It's not like everyone doesn't also have to eat every day. Or that she hadn't had another burger some other time during the last 365 days.
If she'd said that....I'm betting that it wouldn't be an anecdote anyone would remember years down the line, let alone something used to shame her with.

Someone says to you, "I had the best burger last New Years!" would your response be: "You need a more fuller life."
Or would it be: Seriously? Where! I love good burgers. Tell me about this burger.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Why does sex get such special treatment?
I mean, what if she'd said: "I had the best burger last new years!"
It's not like everyone doesn't also have to eat every day. Or that she hadn't had another burger some other time during the last 365 days.
If she'd said that....I'm betting that it wouldn't be an anecdote anyone would remember years down the line, let alone something used to shame her with.

I blame the guys who wrote American Pie. They've forever warped our generation!

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Jephael

I blame the guys who wrote American Pie. They've forever warped our generation!

It was actually 80's movies like Fast Times at Richmond High that started that

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It was actually 80's movies like Fast Times at Richmond High that started that

Yea, but AP took it further with the "M.I.L.F." jokes and pastry humping.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Yea, but AP took it further with the "M.I.L.F." jokes and pastry humping.

Not that this is anywhere near what I'm talking about, but the pie scene? was so much more tame than the masturbation scene in Fast Times. A scene you'd never see in a PG movie these days.

Neither of these movies is responsible for the fact that sex and talk of sexuality is taboo. History and culture predate the 1980s.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Not that this is anywhere near what I'm talking about, but the pie scene? was so much more tame than the masturbation scene in Fast Times. A scene you'd never see in a PG movie these days.

Neither of these movies is responsible for the fact that sex and talk of sexuality is taboo. History and culture predate the 1980s.

Maybe not, but they sure haven't helped the issue either. There was that one part in the prom scene where Jason Bigg's character stood up to his horn-dog friend (the one going out with Tara Reid in the movie) on the matter of losing their virginity and it was a really good "after school special" kinda moment. Of course a few minutes later we see all four guys getting laid at Stifler's so it kinda makes that moment seem kinda like the writer's half-assed attempt at making the characters look like they have a conscience.

[Cure]

I'll discuss anything with friends and family. Doesn't matter. But one thing I don't discuss with them since none of us do them, is drugs. I know I shouldn't, but I just kinda get weirded out when other people discuss their drug habits openly.

Originally Posted by Jephael

Maybe not, but they sure haven't helped the issue either. There was that one part in the prom scene where Jason Bigg's character stood up to his horn-dog friend (the one going out with Tara Reid in the movie) on the matter of losing their virginity and it was a really good "after school special" kinda moment. Of course a few minutes later we see all four guys getting laid at Stifler's so it kinda makes that moment seem kinda like the writer's half-assed attempt at making the characters look like they have a conscience.

What are you even going on about? Stop blaming movies because sex makes you feel icky. Plastron has a point.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by Cure

Stop blaming movies because sex makes you feel icky.

I never said sex makes me feel icky, but it has lead to some very awkward moments in my life. I actually did some thinking over dinner and realized certain television shows have done some pretty good stories around the issue. Ever watch that episode of South Park where they teach sex ed to elementary students? Pretty screwed up, but it ends with Chef teaching the town a valuable lesson.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I make a habit of using beliefs as a way to measure the worthiness of someone to be my friend in the first place.

Someone who doesn't view me as an equal doesn't get the privilege of having me as a friend. Last thing I want to be is someone's "token ___" friend.

You and I so need to hang in real life.

But no, I don't have topics I shy away from - no topics are off-limits with me. Instead, I have people I shy away from.

If I have to censor myself too much around someone then they're not a person I'll spend time talking to in general. Not so much a "need to surround myself with an echo chamber" as much as a preference for friendships that aren't hard work and discussion with people on my wavelength who respect my existence. If I have to watch my tongue talking about things that I'm passionate about (like queer rights, sexuality, social issues) - things that are important to me and make up part of who I am as a person - if it's something that's going to majorly stick in someone's craw, we're probably not cut out to be good friends anyway.

I'm not into sports at all, so I totally don't get the sports thing either.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I'm not into sports at all, so I totally don't get the sports thing either.

*nod* People arguing about teams and carrying on and getting upset that their chosen team isn't winning...

Did I miss something? Do the losing teams get executed at the end of the season and they can't try again next year?

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

People arguing about teams and carrying on and getting upset that their chosen team isn't winning...

Did I miss something? Do the losing teams get executed at the end of the season and they can't try again next year?

You should meet my second cousin's husband. That is so him! He turns into a whiny little b*tch on Facebook every time the Philadelphia Eagles lose a game.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

But no, I don't have topics I shy away from - no topics are off-limits with me. Instead, I have people I shy away from.

Penny totally hit the nail on the head for me. If we're gonna do nothing but argue or think less of each other, if we can't have open honest agree-to-disagreements, then I don't need your **** in my life.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Jephael

You should meet my second cousin's husband. That is so him! He turns into a whiny little b*tch on Facebook every time the Philadelphia Eagles lose a game.

Oh yes, just south of the PA line so we're Eagles country down here too, I've got some Eagles fans on FB as well so I know what you mean. (Not to mention hear it from the other room.) Heaven forbid if they're playing against the Cowboys. lol

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I always root for the opposing team when the Cowboys play. Because I'm just THAT disgusted with football in general, and them in particular. I do like the Panthers, though.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

You and I so need to hang in real life.

We should make this happen.
I'll even keep the Sox and Bruins talk to a minimum.

[Metalwolf]

I think mine would be religion- "Oh you're a Christian? Oh you horrible fundies!"

And politics- When people assume that you have Same Sex Attraction automatically means that you are liberal, agnostic/atheist and automatically pro-gay marriage. Not every person with SSA or trans tendencies believes or feels the same way, even to the point of believing or feeling strongly about things that are against what others they 'should' feel.

Certain things about animals- Primarily the stuff 'justifying' why they have kept their dog or cat un-neutered, and anything where they mention that they will toss their animal out on the street if it even hisses or growls at their toddler, even thou odds are the toddler is allowed to get away with annoying or hurting the dog or cat.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Someone says to you, "I had the best burger last New Years!" would your response be: "You need a more fuller life."
Or would it be: Seriously? Where! I love good burgers. Tell me about this burger.

This is funny to me, because as I read it, I was indeed eating, THE Best Burger. I made it. Double cheeseburger with sharp cheddar, lettuce, green pepper, onions, ketchup, mayo, and a dab of hickory barbecue sauce. The Best Burger... except it didn't have any mushrooms on it, because we're out. That would be The Best Burger + 1.

I'm washing it down with a huge salad because I don't wanna be a fatass.
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As far as fanatical sports fans go, the only thing my Dad ever really taught me about sports was, "The Yankees Eat Sh*t." I'm like alright, f*** 'em.