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Old 06-10-2015, 01:54 PM   #21
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The film exaggerates both the Mirage & Fred Wolf turtles' personalities, that's the point. They're being both homaged & parodied. To try & make sense of these caricatures is futile.
The Mirage turtles aren't wholly apathetic the the plight of man & the Fred Wolf Turtles don't weep in fear & have group hugs in victory. So...
I guess if they were going for that I can understand. I guess really The Mirage turtles and 87 turtles are almost somewhat like a parody. Although the 03 Turtles seem rather in character. Hmmm.
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:06 PM   #22
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I'm not really sure what else you want to hear. You want us to explain a cartoon, that is parodying other cartoons. Sometimes you just need to let it go and move on with your life
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:09 PM   #23
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I'm not really sure what else you want to hear. You want us to explain a cartoon, that is parodying other cartoons. Sometimes you just need to let it go and move on with your life
Just answers to these questions that's all. I know it's a cartoon but there's no harm in trying to figure out this stuff. It's not like I'm spending days on this project trying to figure out why they do what they do. I'm just curious really.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:43 PM   #24
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IIRC the Director's Cut of Turtles Forever explained how Karai tracked Shredder and showed Shredder in pain as he crushed the Mirage Turtles.

Have you watched the director's cut of Turtles Forever, yabuturtle? (FYI, the director's cut is 78 minutes long, whereas the TV version was only 70 minutes long, and the American DVD version is 73 minutes long.)
FYI, that's not the "director's cut". That is the regular movie! The version that aired on television is edited for to fit into either a 90 minute broadcast, or 3-30 minute broadcasts.
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:57 PM   #25
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For #4: The Turtles dying in the Mirage universe (in #1) would mean that neither cartoon universe would ever be made. Mirage Shredder dying doesn't matter, because the Mirage universe goes on. Mirage Shredder actually did die in the first issue, and as you can see, '87 and '03 Shredders do exist.

Basically, the entire "universe" is the show. The show is being erased since Turtles never got past issue 1 of Mirage.
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:18 PM   #26
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FYI, that's not the "director's cut". That is the regular movie! The version that aired on television is edited for to fit into either a 90 minute broadcast, or 3-30 minute broadcasts.
Sorry, got the info from Turtlepedia.

I'd recommend that yabuturtle ask Peter Laird and Lloyd Goldfine about his TF questions. Laird can be reached at his blog, not sure how to contact Goldfine.
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It was definitely not a kid's book.
That was the thing that always mystified me about the turn the franchise took when Eastman and Laird licensed the cartoon and the parallel comic book published by the same outfit that gave us Archie. The turtles' original origin story? The whole thing hinges on a for-Christ's-sake rape-murder!!!!
from here.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:19 PM   #27
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It's really easy, killing the Turtles means no other Turtle Universe's will ever be created, because there would be nothing else after the first comic, because they are the main characters, they are the reason why the other versions/universes where created, they where the first ones, everything else was created by making different versions of them, think of this as in the real world, they are the source, remove them and there's nothing else to adapt from.

And they didn't do anything because it wasn't their problem, they where trained for one reason and one reason alone, to kill Shredder, nothing more, human world, human problem, the only thing they knew was that they had to kill Shredder, everything else was beyond them.

And Shredder dies in the very first comic anyway, killing him in here would change nothing, because he would be dead by the end of the day anyway, that's why killing him wouldn't affect anyone else, that is, if he did die anyway.
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