Do the turtles have a tail? (2014 movie)

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I'm starting to think that was actually a metaphor for how he sees the TF fans.... Let's hope he doesn't go that route with the Turtles!

[IndigoErth]

Spoiler:

I'm sure if people look hard enough there's other screen shots that could probably be inspected... I remember last year some person online posted a shot from the snow chase, some view they thought was down yonder and tried to point out more human-like anatomy in that case... but it was blurry and again, I think people saw/see what they want to.

Spoiler:

Only he knows for sure, and he ain't telling.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

But there ARE no "strappy things" on the back of his loincloth. Just the thin strips tying it on, that hang down over the darker leather part. That is something else, and it clearly jerks exactly with his body movement, not "swaying" like cloth or leather would. It's also between the front part and those strips visible swinging in the back. If it's not a tail, then it really IS his d*ck, which is equally weird, though I wouldn't have put it past Bay and Co., since they DID put balls on a Decepticon....

Try again. If you look you can clearly see that of the strips hanging in the back of him, the ones on the outer edge are wider, and the one on the left (Leo's left) is mostly hidden by shadow but they're CLEARLY symmetrically matched with each other as far as size and shape. You can especially tell at the moment in the gif when the shadows get lighter for a moment before it loops.

It's part of his costume and frankly anyone who can't tell that is blind. Or maybe just has a crappy monitor display. On my laptop it is CLEARLY VISIBLE as part of his stupid costume. Beyond that it's the only thing that makes ANY logical sense whatsoever. C'mon people.

I'm gonna go ahead and proclaim this entire thing Most Worthless Thread Topic Of 2015. We've had some doozies, but leave it to The Usual Suspect to pop in with a "winner" right at the end of the year. Shame on the rest of you for encouraging it. MOST of you are way better than this.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Have to disagree, Leo. The parts of his clothing that hang down in back are obviously swinging back and forth, as cloth or leather would, but the "tail" (or d*ck, if some prefer) doesn't act that way- it snaps in time WITH his legs and torso, and is rounded in profile, and is right behind the blue part, rather than further back as the rest is. It doesn't even hang the same, it's firmer and tapered evenly. It can't be part of the loincloth, because it isn't even using the same physics. It's behaving like part of his body, not part of his clothing. It "bobs" like a stubby tail or "other appendage" would. And my display is just fine- in fact, I zoomed in on it several times larger (on my phone as well), and it clearly is NOT connected to the strips in back in any way!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Whenever I start to forget I'm on the internet surrounded by obsessive fans, you guys start a thread like this to remind me that I'm on the internet surrounded by obsessive fans.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

You're welcome. I've been picking this thing apart again and again, looking to see if it is or isn't, and so far, it looks like it is. If anyone can find other shots that might have it (or one of the others) we might be able to confirm or deny definitively, but for now, I'm going with "Yes, Virginia, TMNT DO have tails!"

[IndigoErth]

So and went and looked up that scene, and there are multiple angles of him... Sure, from that one angle it looks odd, but honestly, to my eye, in other angles it's clearly just his clothing.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Have to disagree, Leo. The parts of his clothing that hang down in back are obviously swinging back and forth, as cloth or leather would, but the "tail" (or d*ck, if some prefer) doesn't act that way- it snaps in time WITH his legs and torso, and is rounded in profile, and is right behind the blue part, rather than further back as the rest is. It doesn't even hang the same, it's firmer and tapered evenly. It can't be part of the loincloth, because it isn't even using the same physics. It's behaving like part of his body, not part of his clothing. It "bobs" like a stubby tail or "other appendage" would. And my display is just fine- in fact, I zoomed in on it several times larger (on my phone as well), and it clearly is NOT connected to the strips in back in any way!

So by your logic... the effects department went to the trouble to design, and render, a CGI "tail", that would not actually appear, at all, except in one shot, for two-seconds, mostly obscured by shadow, in such a manner that it's barely possible to even tell what it is.

((Rubs temples))

They didn't do that. It is clearly part of his costume. I don't know what you're looking at but it's absolutely one of the strips. It's moving the TINIEST bit differently than the other ones, mostly due to how it's positioned. There's absolutely nothing to suggest it's part of his body, but everything to suggest that it's one of those other things on his costume. It's even the same size and general shape as the one on the polar opposite side of it. Even ignoring all that, you're left with the question of WHY they'd give him a "tail" nobody'd ever even SEE without freeze-framing. Which these hacks absolutely would not bother to do anyway. Holy sh*t.

I can't even. You people have robbed me of the ability to Even, possibly forever. Fine, disagree, you're still incorrect. That is a willful choice to be incorrect and I simply can't endorse that decision.

There is no mystery. It is not his tail. It is his costume. "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar", etc. etc. etc.

Indigo wins the "Common Sense For Sanity" Trophy for 2015. Thanks, doll. I was thisclose to taking a belt sander to my forehead just a minute ago to relieve the pressure, but you saved the day, and possibly a life. You rock. Have a cupcake, Cupcake.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Except that all the clothing parts dangle straight DOWN. That ONE object "hangs" more at a forward angle. It's not obeying the same law of physics and gravity as the rest, if it's just cloth hanging. (And wouldn't be UNDER him instead of in back, either.) Watch how everything else swings freely, but that one part angles toward the front, then jerks backward, then snaps forward again and just stops when he catches the egg. It's right before the clip loops. That's not how clothing acts. It's moving exactly the same speed and motion as his main body, while the rest just sways.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Except that all the clothing parts dangle straight DOWN. That ONE object "hangs" more at a forward angle. It's not obeying the same law of physics and gravity as the rest, if it's just cloth hanging. (And wouldn't be UNDER him instead of in back, either.) Watch how everything else swings freely, but that one part angles toward the front, then jerks backward, then snaps forward again and just stops when he catches the egg. It's right before the clip loops. That's not how clothing acts. It's moving exactly the same speed and motion as his main body, while the rest just sways.

Are you implying that Leo enjoys the punishment a little too much?

[Leo656]

I've noticed how sometimes you do this thing where you're contrary for no reason, Captain Quackers. It's excruciating. Of all the things anyone could possibly over-think and mis-analyze, this is one of the worst. Just saying.

So it's bad CGI and the animators don't know physics. It's not his tail! Get over it! I really need people to be smarter than this and you people are fai-....

Wait. I'll let Cylons do it. He's good at it. CKD! Say that thing you always say! From the show, with the guy, with the arrows and stuff. I always chuckle when you do that. C'mon buddy.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I've noticed how sometimes you do this thing where you're contrary for no reason, Captain Quackers. It's excruciating. Of all the things anyone could possibly over-think and mis-analyze, this is one of the worst. Just saying.

So it's bad CGI and the animators don't know physics. It's not his tail! Get over it! I really need people to be smarter than this and you people are fai-....

Wait. I'll let Cylons do it. He's good at it. CKD! Say that thing you always say! From the show, with the guy, with the arrows and stuff. I always chuckle when you do that. C'mon buddy.

When you ask like that, how can I refuse?

All you who would debate this issue of tails/dicks/straps?

YOU HAVE FAILED THIS FORUM.

Gah, I miss Seasons 1-2 Arrow. I don't think the show's EVER gonna return to its original quality.

[Leo656]

((Swoon/Melts))

I needed that. You're alright, you.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

((Swoon/Melts))

I needed that. You're alright, you.

Anything for you. Now embrace me and tell me I'm beautiful.

[Leo656]

...Dude there's people I know here...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

...Dude there's people I know here...

Oh sure, when you have needs, you'll acknowledge our relationship.

But what about MY needs, Leo? I'm a human being with human needs, too, dammit!

[TrickOrTreater]

Occam's Razor is a thing, and people should know it is a thing.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Okay laugh it up fuzzballs. But I spent an hour last nightvgoing through all the screencaps I made when the DVD first came out, and Im sorry, but it's NOT just a piece of his darn loincloth. Found two other shots from the same scene, at a different angle, and it is still in the same spot, shape, and weird angle. It only shoe when he is squatting or while doing the splits on those block. But the stills don't lie. And although he's the only one I've found it on so far, I'm still going through screen caps so I might find other shots.

Also, artists and animators are a perverse lot, and they would ABSOLUTELY render and animate a tail (or other appendage) just to see what they can get under the radar. Heck, Disney is NOTORIOUS for doing exactly that! So are the guys in Nick's TMNT, for that matter. The body is rendered and animated seperately from clothing, which is then overlaid on top. So that even when removed, the skin textures ect. are still there. If it's animated differentlyvfrom his clothes it's because it's part of the body. Come on Leo, thevevidence is clearly in favor of a body part here. I would think you guys would be happy to see someone finally putting tailsvon turtles like in the Mirage art. Personally, I wouldn't put it past them for it to be "turtlepeen" just to be perverse, but I'd rather not be scarred for life by the thought of the soccer mom uproar that would likely cause if it got out.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Soccer moms are the world's unsung heroes, the morality police keeping Janet Jackson's tips off the television screen and the Dreaded Outrageous F-Bomb off our airwaves.

How DARE you insinuate that they are not to be respected, loved, and feared!?

[thundermaster612]

I'm pretty sure I once saw a concept for Leo (2k12 series) where it showed him having a tail, pretty sure it didn't make it into the show. Maybe they tuck their tails into their shell...