What is your opinions of this movie before it comes out?

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I'm excited, it looks like it's better than the 2014 movie.

The Turtles are in it from the start and hopefully in it a lot more than the last movie.
The turtles designs are toned down.
Bebop, Rocksteady and Kraang.
Looks like more Turtle interactions.
Longer running time (thats if the Cineworld running time is correct)
Scenes are more colorful.

Rotten Tomatoes, Fandango and Moviefone are showing two different run times. RT shows 1 hour and 37 minutes, Fandango and Moviefone shows 1 hour and 48 minutes.

[TrickOrTreater]

The looks like a f*cking dumpster fire, just like the first one.

[thundermaster612]

I would say I think the movie will be good but I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for it considering how toxic the discussion section for the movie has become

[LeoRaph]

It's going to Accomplish the Almost Impossible and be Worse than the 1St PDMT.

Aaaaaaand it's going to do Exactly what Fans of The Real TMNT's Genuine Substance, Heart, Soul, Intelligent Humour, Intricate Intimate Well Thought Out Themes and Details DON'T want it to do and be Just another Whacky Silly Over the Top Dumb Kids Franchise taking us even further back than Next Mutation.

This IS the getting Worse stage before it gets Better...

[NinjaPug]

My opinion of any TMNT movie created by Platinum Dunes is that it will be complete garbage. Everything I've seen of this movie so far has done nothing to dissuade me of that opinion.

[Shred Head]

Its going to be garbage I know it will its going to be Batman V Superman but without any of the good points that movie had. Pretty much its bloated with way to much and a complete lack of understanding of the source material or what fans love of the source material. I mean its going to have half he run time Batman V Superman has yet it has more characters and plots it needs to introduce then that cluster ****. Lets take a look shall we.

Casey Jones
Bebop and Rocksteady
Baxter Stockman
Reintroduce Shredder, Karai, and the Foot and the rivalry with the turtles and what there whole bag is something that should have been done in the last film but they ****ed that up
Krang
Dimension X
A big invasion of New York City
Leo having doubts about his leadership
The Turtles wanting to turn human
Turtles going public (At this point in time they really do need to take the Ninja off the title and put back Hero it makes more sense now)
Also set up a romance with Casey and April

Wow yeah I bet thats going to have some depth and great payoff and none of the plots or character moments wont feel rushed at all. I swear it feels like there trying to cram two ****ing movies into one and its going to fail hard. Thats how I feel going into this movie.

[Mew]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

The looks like a f*cking dumpster fire, just like the first one.

[Technogeek29]

Fred Wolf this, Fred Wolf that! Were pandering on nostalgia so much from that version were stealing idea's from it and not the good ones. They tried stealing from IDW but only taking one thing from there and not the entire narrative cause many problems and plot holes. The removal of Hamato Yoshi, Teng Shen and Oroku Saki (This cliché evil Japanese man might as well be anybody) Casey Jones is a straight up hockey vigilante which is something the nick version is guilty of as well. Casey despite a mostly hockey mask and one stick mostly used a bat with mostly golf attire a jack of all trades you? I do not need to touch the character itself as we all have spoken on that. The villain left that these idiots could do (god I hope they don't) is Bishop, were not getting triceratons , city at war or Space travel. No they made it clear they don't care.

[Etsyturtle2]

Originally Posted by Technogeek29

Fred Wolf this, Fred Wolf that! Were pandering on nostalgia so much from that version were stealing idea's from it and not the good ones. They tried stealing from IDW but only taking one thing from there and not the entire narrative cause many problems and plot holes. The removal of Hamato Yoshi, Teng Shen and Oroku Saki (This cliché evil Japanese man might as well be anybody) Casey Jones is a straight up hockey vigilante which is something the nick version is guilty of as well. Casey despite a mostly hockey mask and one stick mostly used a bat with mostly golf attire a jack of all trades you? I do not need to touch the character itself as we all have spoken on that. The villain left that these idiots could do (god I hope they don't) is Bishop, were not getting triceratons , city at war or Space travel. No they made it clear they don't care.

Stephen Amell actually posted his costume on twitter and it showed baseball bats and cricket bat and hockey stick. not just hockey. Hockey is just his main interest.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Etsyturtle2

Stephen Amell actually posted his costume on twitter and it showed baseball bats and cricket bat and hockey stick. not just hockey. Hockey is just his main interest.

If that's a reference to the art work he posted way back when he heavily hinted he was playing Casey Jones I'm almost positive I'd seen that before as fan art.

They have said in interviews that this version of the character is not like previous versions despite having a faithful design.

I must admit in all the many things that bug me about this movie series this has risen to the top of my list which is strange given how they've butchered what I feel to be more important aspects. I think it has to do with the fact that while I hold firm on the belief the TMNT mythology as-is can make for a great movie there are aspects of it I know sound a strange to people that I can see why some Hollywood producers may may dismiss it out of hand. Casey Jones however is a pretty simple character to get right and they've not even tried.

Not to mention it shows they really haven't learned their lessons with the previous movie. If they wanted an origin for Casey they have one but they needlessly came up with their own just like with all the characters last time. The fact that he's connected to the turtles via an early event in the movie keeping to the idea that everything has to be connected. Even the fact that it seems to have been based on the Blue Door security guard version.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, the writers just seem to want to complicate things that don't need to be made more complicated.

There's no harm in simply making Casey a crazyass guy on the street who stumbles into this. We don't need to spend a bunch of time making intricate connections for supporting characters and fundamentally changing them in the process. (Damn why couldn't they get new writers, too. Next time please, if there is a next.)

I've said before that I'm okay with it if they want to tell new stories - but don't screw with the flipping foundation. In setting that up, then go with what's already there, then jump ahead and build your own thing on top of it. And by "your own thing" I mean original stuff, not changed stuff that doesn't need to be changed.

The fact that these Turtles can pass for grown was such a missed opportunity to simply jump into stories that may have happened to them years later when they were a bit older, post-Shredder years and other baddies. (Heck... still want the Foot Clan involved? Then create an interesting story of a new foe trying to form a new Foot Clan and presents new challenges from when the Turtles were younger.)

edit: It's like these writers are basically writing their own "alternate universe" fan fiction, but getting paid for it and making it canon.

[slingtheory]

This movie looks the same as the first to me only with added nostalgia this time. call me a cynic but im pretty sure the thought process behind that was quaility aside of course people are going to want to see characters and things from thier childhood in live action for the first time ever. I've got absolutely no faith in this creative team to deliver anything better this go around. Based on all we've seen from the trailers I'm convinced they still don't get this franchise, it's characters, or its appeal and they have no desire to. Instead they're going to keep pushing thier own "cool" new ideas while pandering to the memories people have of the most main stream version and call it day. I don't buy into this idea that they're really listening to the fans at least not with the goal of making a better movie. The corrections they made simply amount to fixing the things that were complained about the loudest last time. Most likely because otherwise they know more people would've opted out from the start. Also they seem to be doing the same thing all over again and making needless alterations if Casey's new origin is any indication. I don't know man. For everyone whose excited for this I hope it lives up to your expectations. As for me I said it 2 years ago and I'm saying it now: the tmnt deserve better than this.

[sethmartin]

They don't look at the turtles as a comic book series. They look at it as an 80s cartoon. True, most people came to know the turtles through the 80s show, however, in the days of the comic book movie, they really should be taking inspiration from the books. In the 80s, most people knew Batman through the 60s show, but that didn't stop Tim Burton from making a solid dark approach closer to the comics.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

They don't look at the turtles as a comic book series. They look at it as an 80s cartoon. True, most people came to know the turtles through the 80s show, however, in the days of the comic book movie, they really should be taking inspiration from the books. In the 80s, most people knew Batman through the 60s show, but that didn't stop Tim Burton from making a solid dark approach closer to the comics.

Tim Burton wasn't really the first to make a dark Batman movie, all credit has to go to Frank Miller for making Batman dark in his comics.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Tim Burton wasn't really the first to make a dark Batman movie, all credit has to go to Frank Miller for making Batman dark in his comics.

Sounds like someone has never heard of Bill Finger or Dennis O'Neil.

[sgtfbomb]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Tim Burton wasn't really the first to make a dark Batman movie, all credit has to go to Frank Miller for making Batman dark in his comics.

Up until 1989, the only Batman movie, that was truly a movie, was Batman: The Movie, which was the campy Adam West movie that came out in between the first and second season of the 60s series. There was a couple of serials released in the 30s, which have since been edited together.

Tim Burton isn't credited to making Batman dark, but his movie was the first dark Batman movie.

However, Frank Miller isn't the one who made Batman dark either.

Frankly, it doesn't matter what inspired Tim Burton's Batman film. That wasn't the point at all. At the time, the mainstream public was more familiar with the campy show than the dark character (which existed before Miller and Alan Moore got their hands on it). When it was announced that Michael Keaton -- who despite having done a couple of dramas was mostly known for comedies such as Beetlejuice, Mr. Mom, and Night Shift -- a lot of the public had assumed they were going for the Adam West vibe.

[CyberCubed]

Even though this movie will likely be bad, it at least looks somewhat better than the first.

[sethmartin]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Tim Burton wasn't really the first to make a dark Batman movie, all credit has to go to Frank Miller for making Batman dark in his comics.

What? Tim Burton WAS the first to make a serious/darker Batman movie! Yes, Frank Miller made a darker version of Batman in the comics, but he never made a movie.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

What? Tim Burton WAS the first to make a serious/darker Batman movie! Yes, Frank Miller made a darker version of Batman in the comics, but he never made a movie.

You may wanna read what I said, I mention Frank Miller's comics.

[sethmartin]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

You may wanna read what I said, I mention Frank Miller's comics.

Yes. I did read what you wrote. You said quote:

"Tim Burton wasn't really the first to make a dark Batman movie"

Please name the dark Batman movie that was released prior to his 1989 film.