Jon Berg and Geoff Johns will co-run DC Films - Page 2

*ZariusTwo* · 05-18-2016, 11:49 AM

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Okay, NO. Not at all. I'm saying this as a guy who thought Green Lantern didn't deserve all the hate... it's on par with Marvel's poorer movies.

But Guardians of the Galaxy is freaking awesome. Go wash your mouth out with soap and think about what life choices led you to this point.

The filth in my mouth is less poisonous to me than that overrated turd was Mama .

*Krutch* · 05-18-2016, 11:49 AM

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Apparently I asked for a group hug on the wrong thread...

lol i noticed the same thing.

*plastroncafe* · 05-18-2016, 11:50 AM

Just for the two of you.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 05-18-2016, 11:55 AM

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http://i.imgur.com/PArGEZw.gif

Just for the two of you.

I'm now desperately trying to remember the line from Big Hero 6 about hugging a big warm marshmallow or whatever it was.

My son LOVES that movie. (And so do his mommy and daddy.)

Darthknuxward · 05-18-2016, 11:58 AM

As someone who loves DC more than I love Marvel.... Marvel's just plain doing their films better. Even their lowest movie ( Imo that's Iron Man 3), is still better than DC first film on their DCEU roster, Man of Steel. Hated that movie then and I still do. But BVS was alright, if a bit all over the place. Civil War absolutely blew it out of the water. It was a 9.5/10 movie for me, while BVS was only a 7.5/10. Key point, marvel just does more faithful adaptations of their characters and it pays off, compared to DC wanting to reinvent every character so far. I'll see Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman, but if those two suck, I think I'm just going to give up on the DCEU.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 05-18-2016, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Darthknuxward

As someone who loves DC more than I love Marvel.... Marvel's just plain doing their films better. Even their lowest movie ( Imo that's Iron Man 3), is still better than DC first film on their DCEU roster, Man of Steel. Hated that movie then and I still do. But BVS was alright, if a bit all over the place. Civil War absolutely blew it out of the water. It was a 9.5/10 movie for me, while BVS was only a 7.5/10. Key point, marvel just does more faithful adaptations of their characters and it pays off, compared to DC wanting to reinvent every character so far. I'll see Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman, but if those two suck, I think I'm just going to give up on the DCEU.

Marvel does NOT do more faithful adaptations than DC.

Ultron was completely reinvented as Tony Stark's creation instead of Hank Pym; the Mandarin was a joke, in more ways than one; Drax the Destroyer was originally a human in the comics, not an alien; retconning Wanda and Pietro's parentage (admittedly not the MCU's fault but a necessary evil)...

It's just that Marvel hasn't screwed with the front-line big-name characters, like Cap, Tony, Hulk, Thor, Spidey, etc.

*plastroncafe* · 05-18-2016, 12:25 PM

I'd rather have an adaptation that's more faithful to the spirit of a thing, than the letter of it.

The former gets you Fight Club, the latter gets you Watchmen.

*ZariusTwo* · 05-18-2016, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

retconning Wanda and Pietro's parentage (admittedly not the MCU's fault but a necessary evil)..

And it prompted Marvel to do the exact same thing in the comics.

*Krutch* · 05-18-2016, 12:40 PM

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I'd rather have an adaptation that's more faithful to the spirit of a thing, than the letter of it.

The former gets you Fight Club, the latter gets you Watchmen.

Well said.

*ToTheNines* · 05-18-2016, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Darthknuxward

As someone who loves DC more than I love Marvel.... Marvel's just plain doing their films better. Even their lowest movie ( Imo that's Iron Man 3), is still better than DC first film on their DCEU roster, Man of Steel. Hated that movie then and I still do. But BVS was alright, if a bit all over the place. Civil War absolutely blew it out of the water. It was a 9.5/10 movie for me, while BVS was only a 7.5/10. Key point, marvel just does more faithful adaptations of their characters and it pays off, compared to DC wanting to reinvent every character so far. I'll see Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman, but if those two suck, I think I'm just going to give up on the DCEU.

I feel very much the same way. WB just infuriates me. Look at what they've put out over the past 20 years...

Batman and Robin (one of the worst movies ever)
Steel (lol)
Catwoman (possibly THE worst movie ever)
The Nolan Trilogy (wildly popular and still mostly holds up)
Superman Returns (weird quasi-sequel to the Donner movies that no one asked for)
Jonah Hex (awful)
Green Lantern (half assed attempt to start a shared universe)
MoS/BvS (Snyderman Begins)

And that's it. A lot of the old Marvel stuff either sucks or hasn't aged well... but they were at least ****ing trying, and learning. DC and WB are still feeling their superhero movie growing pains, while simultaneously trying to desperately ape Marvel's shared universe success.

Bleh.

*Spike Spiegel* · 05-18-2016, 12:57 PM

Why not Bruce Timm or Paul Dini?

*plastroncafe* · 05-18-2016, 12:58 PM

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Why not Bruce Timm or Paul Dini?

Because we're terrible people who don't deserve good things.

*CyberCubed* · 05-18-2016, 01:09 PM

DC animation has always been stronger than its movies, that is not a surprise.

Although we're currently at a low with Teen Titans Go being the only DC show currently airing, we had it good for a number of years. The DCAU, (B:TAS, S:TAS, Batman Beyond and Justice League), Teen Titans 2003, Young Justice, Brave and the Bold, etc.

Even the weakest DC cartoons like The Batman or Beware the Batman weren't bad or anything, just a bit hit or miss. The Batman also had a very strong Season 4.

Darthknuxward · 05-18-2016, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Marvel does NOT do more faithful adaptations than DC.

Ultron was completely reinvented as Tony Stark's creation instead of Hank Pym; the Mandarin was a joke, in more ways than one; Drax the Destroyer was originally a human in the comics, not an alien; retconning Wanda and Pietro's parentage (admittedly not the MCU's fault but a necessary evil)...

It's just that Marvel hasn't screwed with the front-line big-name characters, like Cap, Tony, Hulk, Thor, Spidey, etc.

I was talking about the front liners, not all characters in general.

*Andrew NDB* · 05-18-2016, 01:48 PM

Why, why does Geoff Johns continue to be rewarded and elevated? His hands were all over Batman V Superman as a producer and CCO working with Snyder and he was a full-on co-producer of the Green Lantern movie with creative veto power over all aspects... never even minding the fact that he's a quantifiable hack writer that can't write a single comic book without going through a checklist of personal things he wants to retcon about a character (sometimes even retconning his own retcons), 15 splash and double-splash pages in every one, events cliffhangering into cliffhangers into perpetuity. He should be going down with the goddamn burning ship (if not Green Lantern, then certainly BvS), not now being given command of a fleet! And co-writing The Batman with Affleck too? What the f*ck is wrong with WB?

*Andrew NDB* · 05-18-2016, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Marvel does NOT do more faithful adaptations than DC.

No, they just do more adaptations period. Though for every Ultron minor shuffle, there's much larger things like... you know... Catwoman is Selina Kyle, a normal cat burglar, but on-screen for her titular DC movie she's Patience Price, a mutant with superpowers.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 05-18-2016, 01:58 PM

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No, they just do more adaptations period. Though for every Ultron minor shuffle, there's much larger things like... you know... Catwoman is Selina Kyle, a normal cat burglar, but on-screen for her titular DC movie she's Patience Price, a mutant with superpowers.

There has never been a standalone Catwoman movie. Halle Berry who? I don't know what you're talking about.

Seriously, BURN ALL RECORDS. We must speak no more of this unseemly thing. Like Crazy Aunt Gertrude, it must be longed in an abandoned wing of the mansion and never again seen, heard, or mentioned.

*snake* · 05-18-2016, 04:53 PM

I'm mostly a DC dude too. But both companies are so bad with their current output in the comic area.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 05-18-2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Why not Bruce Timm or Paul Dini?

Simple: they're more comfortable in the realm of animation.

*CyberCubed* · 05-18-2016, 05:34 PM

Has Bruce Timm ever directed any live-action? I don't think he did.

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Darthknuxward Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: The Depths of Karzahni Posts: 309	As someone who loves DC more than I love Marvel.... Marvel's just plain doing their films better. Even their lowest movie ( Imo that's Iron Man 3), is still better than DC first film on their DCEU roster, Man of Steel. Hated that movie then and I still do. But BVS was alright, if a bit all over the place. Civil War absolutely blew it out of the water. It was a 9.5/10 movie for me, while BVS was only a 7.5/10. Key point, marvel just does more faithful adaptations of their characters and it pays off, compared to DC wanting to reinvent every character so far. I'll see Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman, but if those two suck, I think I'm just going to give up on the DCEU. __________________ Insane? I prefer the term "creative", but I guess there isn't much difference between the two in the end, is there? Quote: Originally posted by The True Shredder I give a rat's ass. I killed Master Splinter and will give you his rat's ass! Quote: Originally posted by snake WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN? FEEL MY FREEZE! I'm not quite dead.

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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,558	Why, why does Geoff Johns continue to be rewarded and elevated? His hands were all over Batman V Superman as a producer and CCO working with Snyder and he was a full-on co-producer of the Green Lantern movie with creative veto power over all aspects... never even minding the fact that he's a quantifiable hack writer that can't write a single comic book without going through a checklist of personal things he wants to retcon about a character (sometimes even retconning his own retcons), 15 splash and double-splash pages in every one, events cliffhangering into cliffhangers into perpetuity. He should be going down with the goddamn burning ship (if not Green Lantern, then certainly BvS), not now being given command of a fleet! And co-writing The Batman with Affleck too? What the f*ck is wrong with WB? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

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CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	DC animation has always been stronger than its movies, that is not a surprise. Although we're currently at a low with Teen Titans Go being the only DC show currently airing, we had it good for a number of years. The DCAU, (B:TAS, S:TAS, Batman Beyond and Justice League), Teen Titans 2003, Young Justice, Brave and the Bold, etc. Even the weakest DC cartoons like The Batman or Beware the Batman weren't bad or anything, just a bit hit or miss. The Batman also had a very strong Season 4.

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snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	I'm mostly a DC dude too. But both companies are so bad with their current output in the comic area.

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CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	Has Bruce Timm ever directed any live-action? I don't think he did.