Bomb in NYC injures 29 people

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Trust nothing and no one. Don't even trust yourself.

Fear is the only true motivator, so stay afraid.

[snake]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Trust nothing and no one. Don't even trust yourself.

Fear is the only true motivator, so stay afraid.

[turtle1237]

But you can trust the power of steel.

This you can trust.

[ZariusTwo]

They caught the bomber.

[MikeandRaph87]

I saw on the news they knew who it was and had relatives of the suspect in custody. They got the person in question then? Good!

I read that 29 are injured. Is there no death toll only injured?

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

They caught the bomber.

Yep

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I saw on the news they knew who it was and had relatives of the suspect in custody. They got the person in question then? Good!

I read that 29 are injured. Is there no death toll only injured?

According to Obama(see link above) no one got killed.

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome to hear the jerk got caught.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Awesome to hear the jerk got caught.

Terrorist... The terrorist got caught...

[plastroncafe]

Alleged bomber, if we're going to split hairs.
We don't know that he's a terrorist, nor can we assume the person of interest that was caught is guilty. That's for the court to decide.

But seeing as the guy currently in custody was trespassing when he was caught, and then fired on police...I'd say jerk is pretty accurate.

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Alleged bomber, if we're going to split hairs.
We don't know that he's a terrorist, nor can we assume the person of interest that was caught is guilty. That's for the court to decide.

But seeing as the guy currently in custody was trespassing when he was caught, and then fired on police...I'd say jerk is pretty accurate.

I think if you bomb something you should be considered a terrorist by definition.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by snake

I think if you bomb something you should be considered a terrorist by definition.

Sure. The same thing should also be said for dudes who shoot up movie theaters full of people. But it's not.

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Sure. The same thing should also be said for dudes who shoot up movie theaters full of people. But it's not.

You don't consider them terrorists? I do.

School shooters are the only sub catagory I give

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by snake

You don't consider them terrorists? I do.

School shooters are the only sub catagory I give

I'd consider them terrorists too. Really anyone who uses an atmosphere of "fear" to further an agenda is a terrorist. Whether that atmosphere relies upon actual violence, or the perception of impending violence.

However, in the media, terrorist is a term relegated to either people who are actively trying to further a political agenda, or mass-murders who aren't white.
And since we don't yet know if this guy had a political agenda, I feel it's too soon to go tossing around the term.

You are more than welcome to disagree with me.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I'd consider them terrorists too. Really anyone who uses an atmosphere of "fear" to further an agenda is a terrorist. Whether that atmosphere relies upon actual violence, or the perception of impending violence.

However, in the media, terrorist is a term relegated to either people who are actively trying to further a political agenda, or mass-murders who aren't white.
And since we don't yet know if this guy had a political agenda, I feel it's too soon to go tossing around the term.

You are more than welcome to disagree with me.

Breivik is white and pretty sure he is considered a terrorist by the media. Just like all those far-left and far-right organisations who committed bombing throughout Europe in the 70s-80s were labeled as terrorists back then.

Ofc since Islamic terrorism seems to be the biggest in the world in the current century, people ended up equating Islam with terrorism. Even though it's inaccurate. The media just plays its part in order to sell papers.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Prowler

Breivik is white and pretty sure he is considered a terrorist by the media. Just like all those far-left and far-right organisations who committed bombing throughout Europe in the 70s-80s were labeled as terrorists back then.

Ofc since Islamic terrorism seems to be the biggest in the world in the current century, people ended up equating Islam with terrorism. Even though it's inaccurate. The media just plays its part in order to sell papers.

Ah, my bad. I forgot to make the "In America" stipulation.
Sorry about that.

This guy in New York? The few reports I'm seeing that mention he's an American citizen are from international sites.
Most domestic sources are quick to point out that he wasn't born in the US, as if that somehow makes him less a citizen.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Prowler

Breivik is white and pretty sure he is considered a terrorist by the media. Just like all those far-left and far-right organisations who committed bombing throughout Europe in the 70s-80s were labeled as terrorists back then.

Ofc since Islamic terrorism seems to be the biggest in the world in the current century, people ended up equating Islam with terrorism. Even though it's inaccurate. The media just plays its part in order to sell papers.

Well... everything was on-point except "sell papers."

Only people buying newspapers these days own pet birds.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Ah, my bad. I forgot to make the "In America" stipulation.
Sorry about that.

This guy in New York? The few reports I'm seeing that mention he's an American citizen are from international sites.
Most domestic sources are quick to point out that he wasn't born in the US, as if that somehow makes him less a citizen.

Yes, I figured you meant USA, but nowadays in Europe we don't really fear internal terrorism from other white folk anymore either. Just from Middle Eastern folk. So what you've said probably applies here somewhat as well.

I guess many Middle Eastern Americas are 1st and 2nd generation Americans. Plus, USA, no matter how diverse it might be it still was meant to be a European like country and the majority is white, so I can see why that sort of thing happens. Not saying it's right, considering it's a country of immigrants form all over the world but I can see why people might overlook the fact that an Afghani guy might be as American as an Irish American guy is.

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Well... everything was on-point except "sell papers."

Only people buying newspapers these days own pet birds.

Well, you know what I meant anyway

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Prowler

Yes, I figured you meant USA, but nowadays in Europe we don't really fear internal terrorism from other white folk anymore either. Just from Middle Eastern folk. So what you've said probably applies here somewhat as well.

I guess many Middle Eastern Americas are 1st and 2nd generation Americans. Plus, USA, no matter how diverse it might be it still was meant to be a European like country and the majority is white, so I can see why that sort of thing happens. Not saying it's right, considering it's a country of immigrants form all over the world but I can see why people might overlook the fact that an Afghani guy might be as American as an Irish American guy is.

And the cycle begins anew.
Honestly I can't wait to go home for the holidays so I can hear all about how Italians were persecuted when they first came over. How horrible and unspeakable it was when they were stripped of their language and culture and blah blah blah.

And then in the next breath how people coming over now should not be allowed to speak their language, or make their own food, or retain their customs.

But I digress.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

And the cycle begins anew.
Honestly I can't wait to go home for the holidays so I can hear all about how Italians were persecuted when they first came over. How horrible and unspeakable it was when they were stripped of their language and culture and blah blah blah.

And then in the next breath how people coming over now should not be allowed to speak their language, or make their own food, or retain their customs.

But I digress.

Yes I know they suffered discrimination at first. In the first half of the 20th century Europeans still had lots of bad blood among each other, so we were all dicks to each other, you see. Not like nowadays where we claim to hate war and call ourselves the zenith of human civilisation!

[BubblyShell22]

Terrorists are just as much jerks as gang members who shoot innocent people or anyone who commits murder. That's why I called him a jerk.