New Episode Discussion: "Lone Raph and Cub" - Page 2

*J Legault* · 10-18-2003, 12:21 PM

I'm a Raphel Fan and I like this filler episode. Finally there's a Raph stand alone episode. And the Gangsters are #4 of Extra Villians with no connection with the Shredder. Atleast Raph found someone instead of Casey that's Hot Headed.

Since this episode is base of Lone Wolf and Cub does anyone have info on that title?

April wore a different outfit in this episode, I thought the tang-top,button shirt and jeans suit her pretty well. She's appeared in more episodes since Notes from Underground part 3.

My favorite parts are when that one Skinny Gangster with the goatee telling the other guys to get Raph.

Green Vengeace....never mind.

Gangster: A little early for Halloween, Freak?
That quote was simalar to "Things Change" Purple Dragon Leader: "Look at the Freaks!" "This ain't Halloween"

I like the part when Raph tries to reason with Tyler but he keeps punching.

The part when Raph tells him to go to the police station, I knew that Raph wasn't going to leave him since he knew Tyler will just walk right back out.

The Gang Leader reminded me of Ganondorf from Legend of Zelda for some reason.

The part with Raph against the Gang leader was simalar to a Hun Fight. But Hun is a bit larger then this guy.

I give this episode 5 out of 5 stars for A must see epsiode.

Atleast I saw a preview for next weeks episode.

*Anarchistguy* · 10-18-2003, 12:26 PM

I know I'm annoying as hell with this question, but being a HUGE animation fan , how was the animation quality?

Ashangelo · 10-18-2003, 01:05 PM

I really enjoyed this episode. And yes, I did think it was cute

I loved the interaction between Raph and Tyler, This episode proves that Raph does have a sensistive side although he chooses not to show it

**HorseTechie** · 10-18-2003, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by anarchistguy

I know I'm annoying as hell with this question, but being a HUGE animation fan , how was the animation quality?

I gave it two thumbs up!

TheCloneRanger · 10-18-2003, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseTechie

Wow... did everyone sleep in on this one?

Anyone else think "Aww c'mon, make like Daredevil, Raph!"

Yeah, I'm evil, I think he should be able to fight blind by now, at least. Especially when his opponent is this big hunky dude in a pink shirt! (a Kingpin wanna be, purhaps?)

I just finished watching Daredevil before I went to sleep last night, so I definitely was thinking the same thing about the Kingpen.

Being a Ninja, why didn't Raph tell the kid to kill the lights to even the playing field? Over-all, this was probably the WORST episode yet...though, a bad episode of TMNT still kicks everything else's ass.

Shellfox · 10-18-2003, 01:33 PM

I know it wasn't intentional but the Halloween line cracked me up, since I really is time
Big Raph fan, but this ep just didn't do it for me. The bits with out eh kid were great but the story itself seemed a little cliche.
Kinda ticked that Raph needed the kid to see in the finaly fight. We saw Leo tack on those foot techs alone blind folded, and the guys have all probly been in training to deal with invisable opponents, so the using kid seemed like they were putting raph down. Yes when they were running it made sence, but when Raph went up aginst the boss, he shouldn't have been helpless.
Nice ot see them laying the seeds of the story acr to come with the gangsters.
Not a bad ep, but it could have been improved greatly with a little work

*J Legault* · 10-18-2003, 02:32 PM

The part with Raph in the begginning of the episode reminded me of Raph in the 1st Movie where he blames himself for Splinter's Disappearance. And Leo telling Raph if he wants to search then do so thing was sorta like in the Movie.

But otherwise Raph is my favorite and this episode is for all us Raph fans.

PanMan · 10-18-2003, 02:48 PM

sorry guys, i was stoked about the new MOTU ep and couldn't talk much about this one.

the animation was top notch! i would have rather had raph have a flashback to Way of Invisibility and how splinter was teaching them how to fight in the dark. that could have been an emotional flashback and would have fit in very nicely.

i also liked when the kid ran away from raph the first time "you can't run away from a ninja, kid"

and then there was that time when the kid said "come get me" and ran out from behind raph (just before that guy threw the grenade). raph had to flip his sai around and he easily brought the kid back

all in all a good filler ep. it was just the kind of ep i needed . . . the turtles (or turtle) fighting some "wimps". reminded me alot of the first ep, although they took care of the purple dragons way too easily then.

Mondo J. Gecko · 10-18-2003, 02:49 PM

Not a bad filler ep..... waiting on the next two episodes though.... they should be good

PanMan · 10-18-2003, 02:51 PM

oh and BTW, i think the poll is kinda useless since i think it was very clear that they will be the 'mob' in City at War

maybe something like "did you think that was splinter at the beginning of the ep?"

nah, i got nothin'

PanMan · 10-18-2003, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo J. Gecko

Not a bad filler ep..... waiting on the next two episodes though.... they should be good

yeah no kidding. i'm very glad that they went back to shredder's tower. i wonder what else they'll find there, and maybe hun or even shredder will be spying on them

**Nturtle** · 10-18-2003, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseTechie

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Originally Posted by anarchistguy

I know I'm annoying as hell with this question, but being a HUGE animation fan , how was the animation quality?

I gave it two thumbs up!

Thats an understatement!! It was freckin' amazing!!! Not just raph jumping around and fighting but little parts like the close up of him picking up his sai is smooth!! Maybe Dong Woo got some more people or new technology recently, whatever it is, I can't wait to see this kind of animaion is season 2!!!

**ThirdMarioBro** · 10-18-2003, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nturtle

I can't wait to see this kind of animaion is season 2!!!

It will be sooo sweet!

**Machias Banshee** · 10-18-2003, 03:45 PM

*sighs* thats it, I am druging myself to sleep Early next week, so i wake up on time...

**Kali** · 10-18-2003, 03:58 PM

Just one word... Bwahahahahahaha!

That was great, total Raph action. I think it was good of Leo to let him out like that, since he probably would have caused more trouble staying in the lair.

And that Tyler kid, what spunk! Hit Raph not once, but three times! Must say, that was my favorite part, I was literally rolling with laughter. I feel just like Raph, I really don't like children, but still, you can't let them go off and get hurt doing some stupid stunt like trying to fight the mob.

Blinded Raph. Also some great stuff, both humorous and touching. In fact, that's how the whole thing was, action packed, funny as hell, with the tough guy showing a bit of his softer side. Though I am really disappointed with him not doing the "other senses" thing, I mean, he is a ninja after all, and he wasn't even fighting other ninjas! I guess Raph's just a little too hot headed and impatient for that stuff.

*hugs her Raphie plushie*

*jeff the cheff* · 10-18-2003, 04:00 PM

I also had PSAT's so I missed it... but i taped it so its all good. I thought it was ok but like someone else said i wish raph had the kid get rid of the lights and fight in the dark. The whole 1 o-clock thing was kidna stupid. Id prolly be able to geuss better where the guy is then having a kid tell me...I mean he was RIGHT there!

Aztec General · 10-18-2003, 04:01 PM

Overall this was a pretty good stand alone episode. I have a feeling that this episode was the first hint of the upcoming City At War storyline. This must be the mob that the Purple Dragons and the Foot take on.

(Edit: I just noticed the poll that states the same as above. I guess I'm not the only one who noticed this.)

I do have one complaint. How is it that mobsters don't have guns? I know that this is supposed to be a kids show but c'mon? It's just stupid that a bunch of organized criminals wearing suits would be carrying chains and baseball bats. They aren't supposed to be a street gang like the Purple Dragons they're supposed to be the mob.

**Kali** · 10-18-2003, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rat King

I do have one complaint. How is it that mobsters don't have guns? I know that this is supposed to be a kids show but c'mon? It's just stupid that a bunch of organized criminals wearing suits would be carrying chains and baseball bats. They aren't supposed to be a street gang like the Purple Dragons they're supposed to be the mob.

LOL! I was complaining about the same thing during the ep. The guys started to pull weapons out of their jackets, but I was shocked that they wielded chains and pipes instead of guns. I mean, what kind of mobsters are they?

There were a few guys that got knocked down before we saw their weapons, and I think they had guns. Or at least, that's my explanation.

Splinter · 10-18-2003, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by J Legault

Since this episode is base of Lone Wolf and Cub does anyone have info on that title?

It's a graphic novel series in Japan, by Kazuo Koike. Which has become quite popular over there, and here among classic manga fans. It's been even made into movies and a TV series over there. The basic story is that a disgraced Samurai becomes an assassin for hire, while he attempts to clear his family's name. The only companion on this journey, is his 3-year old son. Try here for more info:

http://mightyblowhole.com/lonewolf/background.htm

Turkituck · 10-18-2003, 04:23 PM

Hmm.... Does anyone remember when tyler was telling raph about his troubles, he mentioned his babysitter let him watch his all time fave movie? They showed the TV screeen and I was like "Hey, he's watching a samurai flick!" Maybe he was watching Lone Wolf and cub.

View Poll Results: Anyone think the new gang portrayed here will be involved in City at War?
No, this ep was only full of cutsey fluff...	4	11.11%
Yeah, it sure sounded like it!	32	88.89%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

10-18-2003, 12:21 PM	#21
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	I'm a Raphel Fan and I like this filler episode. Finally there's a Raph stand alone episode. And the Gangsters are #4 of Extra Villians with no connection with the Shredder. Atleast Raph found someone instead of Casey that's Hot Headed. Since this episode is base of Lone Wolf and Cub does anyone have info on that title? April wore a different outfit in this episode, I thought the tang-top,button shirt and jeans suit her pretty well. She's appeared in more episodes since Notes from Underground part 3. My favorite parts are when that one Skinny Gangster with the goatee telling the other guys to get Raph. Green Vengeace....never mind. Gangster: A little early for Halloween, Freak? That quote was simalar to "Things Change" Purple Dragon Leader: "Look at the Freaks!" "This ain't Halloween" I like the part when Raph tries to reason with Tyler but he keeps punching. The part when Raph tells him to go to the police station, I knew that Raph wasn't going to leave him since he knew Tyler will just walk right back out. The Gang Leader reminded me of Ganondorf from Legend of Zelda for some reason. The part with Raph against the Gang leader was simalar to a Hun Fight. But Hun is a bit larger then this guy. I give this episode 5 out of 5 stars for A must see epsiode. Atleast I saw a preview for next weeks episode. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

10-18-2003, 12:26 PM	#22
Anarchistguy Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada (This country is too peaceful, Something's up...) Posts: 2,137	I know I'm annoying as hell with this question, but being a HUGE animation fan , how was the animation quality? __________________ M.D.K. Maim! Destroy! Kill!!! "When my time comes, I wanna be buried face down, so those who don't like me can kiss my ass!"

10-18-2003, 01:05 PM	#23
Ashangelo Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2003 Location: My Imagi-Nation Posts: 316	I really enjoyed this episode. And yes, I did think it was cute I loved the interaction between Raph and Tyler, This episode proves that Raph does have a sensistive side although he chooses not to show it __________________ Stalk Me http://twitter.com/Ashangelo http://www.facebook.com/#!/delusa

10-18-2003, 01:33 PM	#26
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	I know it wasn't intentional but the Halloween line cracked me up, since I really is time Big Raph fan, but this ep just didn't do it for me. The bits with out eh kid were great but the story itself seemed a little cliche. Kinda ticked that Raph needed the kid to see in the finaly fight. We saw Leo tack on those foot techs alone blind folded, and the guys have all probly been in training to deal with invisable opponents, so the using kid seemed like they were putting raph down. Yes when they were running it made sence, but when Raph went up aginst the boss, he shouldn't have been helpless. Nice ot see them laying the seeds of the story acr to come with the gangsters. Not a bad ep, but it could have been improved greatly with a little work __________________ We're americans, We build Monster Trucks for fun! Imagin what we'll build when you piss us off!!- Christopher Titus

10-18-2003, 02:32 PM	#27
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	The part with Raph in the begginning of the episode reminded me of Raph in the 1st Movie where he blames himself for Splinter's Disappearance. And Leo telling Raph if he wants to search then do so thing was sorta like in the Movie. But otherwise Raph is my favorite and this episode is for all us Raph fans. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

10-18-2003, 02:48 PM	#28
PanMan Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 728	sorry guys, i was stoked about the new MOTU ep and couldn't talk much about this one. the animation was top notch! i would have rather had raph have a flashback to Way of Invisibility and how splinter was teaching them how to fight in the dark. that could have been an emotional flashback and would have fit in very nicely. i also liked when the kid ran away from raph the first time "you can't run away from a ninja, kid" and then there was that time when the kid said "come get me" and ran out from behind raph (just before that guy threw the grenade). raph had to flip his sai around and he easily brought the kid back all in all a good filler ep. it was just the kind of ep i needed . . . the turtles (or turtle) fighting some "wimps". reminded me alot of the first ep, although they took care of the purple dragons way too easily then. __________________ My name is Pan . . . and I am the Man! [February 19, 2005] I believe that The Shredder will appear in the New Cartoon past Season 3

10-18-2003, 02:49 PM	#29
Mondo J. Gecko Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,064	Not a bad filler ep..... waiting on the next two episodes though.... they should be good __________________

10-18-2003, 02:51 PM	#30
PanMan Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 728	oh and BTW, i think the poll is kinda useless since i think it was very clear that they will be the 'mob' in City at War maybe something like "did you think that was splinter at the beginning of the ep?" nah, i got nothin' __________________ My name is Pan . . . and I am the Man! [February 19, 2005] I believe that The Shredder will appear in the New Cartoon past Season 3

10-18-2003, 03:45 PM	#34
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	sighs thats it, I am druging myself to sleep Early next week, so i wake up on time...

10-18-2003, 03:58 PM	#35
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	Just one word... Bwahahahahahaha! That was great, total Raph action. I think it was good of Leo to let him out like that, since he probably would have caused more trouble staying in the lair. And that Tyler kid, what spunk! Hit Raph not once, but three times! Must say, that was my favorite part, I was literally rolling with laughter. I feel just like Raph, I really don't like children, but still, you can't let them go off and get hurt doing some stupid stunt like trying to fight the mob. Blinded Raph. Also some great stuff, both humorous and touching. In fact, that's how the whole thing was, action packed, funny as hell, with the tough guy showing a bit of his softer side. Though I am really disappointed with him not doing the "other senses" thing, I mean, he is a ninja after all, and he wasn't even fighting other ninjas! I guess Raph's just a little too hot headed and impatient for that stuff. hugs her Raphie plushie

10-18-2003, 04:00 PM	#36
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	I also had PSAT's so I missed it... but i taped it so its all good. I thought it was ok but like someone else said i wish raph had the kid get rid of the lights and fight in the dark. The whole 1 o-clock thing was kidna stupid. Id prolly be able to geuss better where the guy is then having a kid tell me...I mean he was RIGHT there!

10-18-2003, 04:01 PM	#37
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	Overall this was a pretty good stand alone episode. I have a feeling that this episode was the first hint of the upcoming City At War storyline. This must be the mob that the Purple Dragons and the Foot take on. (Edit: I just noticed the poll that states the same as above. I guess I'm not the only one who noticed this.) I do have one complaint. How is it that mobsters don't have guns? I know that this is supposed to be a kids show but c'mon? It's just stupid that a bunch of organized criminals wearing suits would be carrying chains and baseball bats. They aren't supposed to be a street gang like the Purple Dragons they're supposed to be the mob. __________________

10-18-2003, 04:23 PM	#40
Turkituck Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ware, MA Posts: 149	Hmm.... Does anyone remember when tyler was telling raph about his troubles, he mentioned his babysitter let him watch his all time fave movie? They showed the TV screeen and I was like "Hey, he's watching a samurai flick!" Maybe he was watching Lone Wolf and cub. __________________ "It's called 'The Forever War' becasue we'll be waiting forever to see it in print."