TMNT #64 Preview & Discussion

[DestronMirage22]

Can't wait to see the fallout of this issue!

[spookycookies]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

No he is not, he is completely making all these choices on his own.

Yeah this is just what happens when you end up as the head of a gigantic ninja organization. He's being pragmatic because his family has been on the run and in hiding for 2 lifetimes and now that he actually has power he is trying to keep what is his safe.

The turtles might not understand because frankly they are teenagers and to them it might seem like a big heel turn but they haven't seen half of the inner depth that IDW has baked into Splinter. He's still the same father they have always had he just has a much more important role in their larger family that is the foot.

Another thing to add is that the Turtles have basically always identified the Foot Clan as a threat, but to Splinter they are his roots and entirely redeemable under the proper management.

I'm not sure where the whole brainwashed Splinter thing came from, but it grossly misreads the scenario that's playing out in Chasing Phantoms. The divide we are seeing is all about the shades of grey at play in the family.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by spookycookies

Yeah this is just what happens when you end up as the head of a gigantic ninja organization. He's being pragmatic because his family has been on the run and in hiding for 2 lifetimes and now that he actually has power he is trying to keep what is his safe.

The turtles might not understand because frankly they are teenagers and to them it might seem like a big heel turn but they haven't seen half of the inner depth that IDW has baked into Splinter. He's still the same father they have always had he just has a much more important role in their larger family that is the foot.

Another thing to add is that the Turtles have basically always identified the Foot Clan as a threat, but to Splinter they are his roots and entirely redeemable under the proper management.

I'm not sure where the whole brainwashed Splinter thing came from, but it grossly misreads the scenario that's playing out in Chasing Phantoms. The divide we are seeing is all about the shades of grey at play in the family.

Nailed it! I already love this new direction and it hasn't even properly started yet.

[swing_kinker]

That's me read the review copy. Some great stuff, art is ace and there is some very deliberate badarse shots of Splinter being a boss. The end....well no spoilers but looks like there are big changes coming and my jaw widened at one part.....bit of a shock.

[myconius]

this was such a satisfying conclusion to many on the plot threads that have been building up!
as action packed as issues #49 & #50 were, this actually had a LOT more of an emotional impact!

Spoiler:

Leo finally blowing up at Splinter was definitely a long time coming, but Splinters response really turned the whole thing on it's ear.
you really have to feel for Yoshi. everything he has been handed in the life has always been put into jeopardy.
it seems no matter what actions he takes, he'll always end up losing his family.
but it's very poignant to see that he'd choose to push away his sons and have them safe, than risk any more harm falling upon them.

and it feels like Leonardo has just stepped into a larger roll of leadership, now that Splinter has sacrificed his relationship with the boys and he must now look after them.

Spoiler:

Darius Dunn's finest moment!!!

probably the single BEST thing he EVER did since entering this comic series!!!

[Utrommaniac]

Spoiler:

Yep. Didn't see Darius last long. Bye, dude...we're likely forget about you in about five issues. Besides, if he hadn't been killed now, then he probably would be by something later down the line. Triceratons, probably. Zog is basically the smart hulk that he wishes he could be (just not in technology matters).
Libby's obviously going to be okay, that injury wasn't pretty. Harold might even be looking after her during the next issue. I'm pretty sure this is her hand.


Harold severing ties with Donatello is most assuredly going to complicate things on Burnow Island. Not only for knowing when Honeycutt's repairs are finished, but also for when potential problems arise where they'd need help.

[MikeandRaph87]

Bishop has to deal with his mutant agenda then go to Burnow Island and stir Chr'ell who will then free Krang and then Harold will turn back to Donatello. It could be a calendar year before that happens as the chain reaction above has to unfold.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I told you so.

ESPECIALLY you, Cubed.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

Spoiler:

Yep. Didn't see Darius last long. Bye, dude...we're likely forget about you in about five issues. Besides, if he hadn't been killed now, then he probably would be by something later down the line. Triceratons, probably. Zog is basically the smart hulk that he wishes he could be (just not in technology matters).
Libby's obviously going to be okay, that injury wasn't pretty. Harold might even be looking after her during the next issue. I'm pretty sure this is her hand.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/44fa3d12...ylgo1_1280.png

Harold severing ties with Donatello is most assuredly going to complicate things on Burnow Island. Not only for knowing when Honeycutt's repairs are finished, but also for when potential problems arise where they'd need help.

you really think it'll take as many as FIVE issues????

good catch one the hand holding the Santa mug! it didn't occur to me when i first saw the drawing posted.

Spoiler:

yeah, Harold's assistance no longer being on Burnow island could definitely cause major problems in the future!

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Bishop has to deal with his mutant agenda then go to Burnow Island and stir Chr'ell who will then free Krang and then Harold will turn back to Donatello. It could be a calendar year before that happens as the chain reaction above has to unfold.

Spoiler:

i want to see Chr'ell personally "Handle" Bishop!!!

[Utrommaniac]

"Five issues" was rhetorical, sorry . I don't mean it literally.

Yeah, I don't see Krang coming back until at least 2018. We've got the Mutanimals story coming up, and Bobby hinted at the Triceratons in 2017. There wouldn't be room for Ch'rell to attempt rescuing Krang in the middle of of a Triceraton storyline if they come to Earth.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

"Five issues" was rhetorical, sorry . I don't mean it literally.

Yeah, I don't see Krang coming back until at least 2018. We've got the Mutanimals story coming up, and Bobby hinted at the Triceratons in 2017. There wouldn't be room for Ch'rell to attempt rescuing Krang in the middle of of a Triceraton storyline if they come to Earth.

i'm just kidding!!!

no i only meant that to -

Spoiler:

dance on his grave a little!!

hopefully he get's buried with his award for the Science Fair!!
i'm sure he was very proud of it?

you never know though?

they might be able to properly tie the Ch'rell and Krang stories together?
at least plant some seeds?

[Utrommaniac]

Originally Posted by myconius

hopefully he get's buried with his award for the Science Fair!!
i'm sure he was very proud of it?

you never know though?

they might be able to properly tie the Ch'rell and Krang stories together?
at least plant some seeds?

Oh man, that would be really funny .

It would make sense for The Great (Krang) Escape to lead in directly from the storyline where Ch'rell is let out - be it Bishop or Triceratons, but it won't overlap. Besides, given Ch'rell's reputation in this take, he probably wouldn't be leaving Burnow in the middle of an attack.
Invasion happens, Ch'rell is let out, he helps save the day, he's told about Krang's inprisonment, he skulks for a long time while planning a rescue, he does it. Whether he succeeds or not is anyone's guess.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

Oh man, that would be really funny .

It would make sense for The Great (Krang) Escape to lead in directly from the storyline where Ch'rell is let out - be it Bishop or Triceratons, but it won't overlap. Besides, given Ch'rell's reputation in this take, he probably wouldn't be leaving Burnow in the middle of an attack.
Invasion happens, Ch'rell is let out, he helps save the day, he's told about Krang's inprisonment, he skulks for a long time while planning a rescue, he does it. Whether he succeeds or not is anyone's guess.

that that WOULD be pretty funny!!
buried with that Science Fair award jammed RIGHT up his . . . .

yeah that scenario you described sounds more likely.
i guess we'll have to wait and see how the events of Burnow Island unfold?
i usually don't like to look TOO far ahead with solicits, as i like to be surprised when reading a story.
though when you're really excited for the next month's issue, it's pretty hard to not peek ahead!!!

[Utrommaniac]

I'm going to have to make a little silly sketch on that.

With the mutanimals storyline being 4 issues, February to May, it won't be until past June if we ever get back to Burnow.

And we're still waiting around for confirmation on how Honeycutt's repairs are going!

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

I'm going to have to make a little silly sketch on that.

look forward to seeing it

take your time.
really capture him in ALL his splendid glory!

[neatoman]

Holy crap! I did not expect Darius and Libby to get killed off this quickly, I can see the rationale with Darius (given how many similar characters are running around) but Libby was quite shocking.

Edit: Oh, and I'm not sure if Libby's armor was a reference to this, given the more simple design, but it could be.

[swing_kinker]

http://bigglasgowcomic.com/review-te...ja-turtles-64/

My latest review. It was posted yesterday and IDW are quite rightly strict about spoilers since we get advanced copies so it's pretty vague on the plot details.

[MikeandRaph87]

At my other message boards spoilers are required for the first 24 hours in these kind of threads to allow others time to read but also discuss other points made in the thread. Perhaps something could be implemented at least in the comic section?

Spoiler:

Libby is injured similar to Casey. She is not dead.
Jenika being ordwred to kill Darius Dunn could be seen from a mule away along with the others joinning Michelangelo.Still it does not lose the effect.

Bring on Christmas and the Bishop storyline. I also curious what will become of Alopex.

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

At my other message boards spoilers are required for the first 24 hours in these kind of threads to allow others time to read but also discuss other points made in the thread. Perhaps something could be implemented at least in the comic section?

Yeah that's a good rule, but I still don't trust everyone else to always remember to follow it so I just stay away from forums and websites until I catch up on the current issue/episode/installment/what-have-you

but yeah, that was a great issue, very emotional. it did a good job of showing the complexity of Splinter and the Turtles' situation

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

Yeah that's a good rule, but I still don't trust everyone else to always remember to follow it so I just stay away from forums and websites until I catch up on the current issue/episode/installment/what-have-you

but yeah, that was a great issue, very emotional. it did a good job of showing the complexity of Splinter and the Turtles' situation

A memo like what is done with the links to full episodes posted in sections related to the different cartoons should do the trick. After some time it would be ingrained in us that we are required to use spoiler tags for 24 hours.