Fred Wolf crossovers and continuity thread

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Yeah I realise the ratings for the Nickelodeon channel has been dropping dramatically over the past decade and this show was just but one of the shows suffering. Bad ratings are still bad ratings though...

The funny thing about the crossovers is that the mid season 2 cameo were the second highest rated episodes of that season, the one crossover where the FW turtles had cameos that could have easily been edited out. When it came to the actual crossovers the one is season 4 had really mediocre ratings and the ones in season 5 did worse.

Just a little ratings trivia, the highpoint was Vengeance is Mine and the lowpoint was When Worlds Collide. The Mad Max arc and the classic monsters arc might have done worse as there aren't any official rating released.

So it is probably showing that the crossovers had limited power to draw in viewers. That's kind of interesting. I think it probably also accounts for the box office failure of the OOTS movie, as it looked they'd began to bank a little too hard on FW being 'enough' to make fans wanna see it.

I wonder if the ViM episode good ratings is a sign that people want stuff like that, not goofy crossovers or a cheap gimmick. Stuff were the baddies are scarily and competently good at what they are doing and the heroes could be believed to be in danger, A.K.A good writing.

It would be interesting to see what the Monsters or Mad Max episodes' ratings were. I imagine the Mad Max stuff would be seen as hardcore 'downer' episodes, so probably pretty low and maybe not as well liked.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

So it is probably showing that the crossovers had limited power to draw in viewers. That's kind of interesting. I think it probably also accounts for the box office failure of the OOTS movie, as it looked they'd began to bank a little too hard on FW being 'enough' to make fans wanna see it.

I wonder if the ViM episode good ratings is a sign that people want stuff like that, not goofy crossovers or a cheap gimmick. Stuff were the baddies are scarily and competently good at what they are doing and the heroes could be believed to be in danger, A.K.A good writing.

It would be interesting to see what the Monsters or Mad Max episodes' ratings were. I imagine the Mad Max stuff would be seen as hardcore 'downer' episodes, so probably pretty low and maybe not as well liked.

I think the reason the crossovers failed to generate ratings is that they kind of rely on fan interest. The problem with that is obviously age, the average person who grew up watching the FW show were pushing 40 by the time the last one came out, they're typically not care. Banking on them waking up sunday morning to watch a cartoon just because it guest stars voice actors from some show they watched 30 years ago, it's kind of thinking the JLA movie would have done better if it was titled Super Friends.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by neatoman

it's kind of thinking the JLA movie would have done better if it was titled Super Friends.

I like how you frequently compare Fred Wolf tmnt to super friends, like its your no.1 go to comparison

Now I wanna see some fan art of the two groups meeting.

[TurtleWA]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Banking on them waking up sunday morning to watch a cartoon just because it guest stars voice actors from some show they watched 30 years ago

Yes, or that people even watch television the same way as they did 30 years ago. Ratings are an out dated way of tracking a shows popularity in my opinion. My kids going to be 3 this May and has never even watched a show that was airing live/day of. The problem with that is by the time you watch the show. Maybe months or a year after originally released it could have already been canceled. I’m fine with only Netflix but others in my fam like Hulu and Amazon. But we haven’t watched basic tv channels in eight years. When 2012 was on I watched either Netflix for episodes or got DVDs.

More and more people are show waiting the same as trade waiting in comics. Trying to watch a program when it first shows is just another stressor for families with kids (target demo) to fit into a busy schedule.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I like how you frequently compare Fred Wolf tmnt to super friends, like its your no.1 go to comparison

It's not even an accurate comparison.

Originally Posted by neatoman

I think the reason the crossovers failed to generate ratings is that they kind of rely on fan interest. The problem with that is obviously age, the average person who grew up watching the FW show were pushing 40 by the time the last one came out, they're typically not care. Banking on them waking up sunday morning to watch a cartoon just because it guest stars voice actors from some show they watched 30 years ago, it's kind of thinking the JLA movie would have done better if it was titled Super Friends.