Punisher and Jessica Jones cancelled

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Except for Iron Fist, the Marvel Netflix casting has been spot on. It's really weird, though, how everything seemed to lose steam and direction after Defenders.

I guess it's a look at how the MCU could have derailed if Avengers 1 had been a trainwreck?

Seems about right. Or kind of what did actually happen after "Justice League"?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Seems about right. Or kind of what did actually happen after "Justice League"?

I just realized I don't even consider DC's stuff in a cinematic universe anymore, hence why I didn't remember to even use them as an example. Justice League didn't just derail the train, it opened up a portal straight into development hell.

[neatoman]

So what are the chances of Marvel pretending these shows never happened and just using unrelated versions of these characters in the movies? Even though GotG, Black Panther and Captain Marvel all did well at the box office, actually making movies out of them wouldn't have happened unless there was an established audience. Not to mention how Doctor Strange and Ant-Man didn't do as well (probably because they couldn't milk identity politics and a lack of competition). The fact that they intend to make movies out of Shang-Chi, Black Widow and the Eternals sounds like they needed to make filler before the new line of X-Men movies.

Bottom line, it seems like they were starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel for popular comics to adapt until two days ago.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Not to mention how Doctor Strange and Ant-Man didn't do as well (probably because they couldn't milk identity politics and a lack of competition).

There was plenty of Identity politics buzzing around Dr Strange, especially With Disney being China's bitch and wipe Tibet of their hands and "canon". It just wasn't the positive kind

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

There was plenty of Identity politics buzzing around Dr Strange, especially With Disney being China's bitch and wipe Tibet of their hands and "canon". It just wasn't the positive kind

Yeah the white washing of the ancient one seemed a bit odd considering they didn't have to mention the character's nationality.

And the identity politics of BP are pretty weird when you think about it. It's marketed towards African-Americans as "their" movie but it's about a fictional royal line, from a fictional country with a fictional culture, built on a fictional resource. The one African-American character is a ruthless, psychotic, usurping, hypocritical serial killer who shot his girlfriend and tried to kill his cousin for revenge, then tried to start a world war.

[Candy Kappa]

I think BP did more was in show us what African-based sci-fi fantasy can really be when done with care. Especially when a lot of African imagry usually is not very kind

But if it was marketed in the US was heavily for African-Americans, Yeah that is a bit of a interesting angle.

[Andrew NDB]

... and Punisher and Jessica Jones live action rights have reverted back to Marvel, apparently the last of the Netflix bunch to do so. Now Marvel has them all back.

https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ma...W1bBdxKj_-afwU