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Old 05-07-2022, 01:42 AM   #21
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Second season? So they actually went ahead and released this crap?
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Old 05-07-2022, 01:46 AM   #22
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I'd totally forgotten that the original show was cancelled because of sexual harassment complaints against him and Hervey. Pretty wild.

I guess since he's rarely worked in front of the camera since then people don't make as much fuss. That said, one can only wonder what supposedly happened This Time.
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Old 05-07-2022, 02:36 AM   #23
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Huh. I didn't even realize (or I'd forgotten) that he was a part of it.
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Old 05-07-2022, 06:29 AM   #24
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I'd totally forgotten that the original show was cancelled because of sexual harassment complaints against him and Hervey. Pretty wild.
Oh? What happened there?

On a more nerdy note, I loved the original series. Just the entire thing was basically a work of art, to me. Yes, I even enjoyed the 'raw and real' ending it had. I didn't grow up in the 60s, yet it was super relatable to me.

I watched the pilot and another episode of the remake. Hated it. It lacks everything the original had: charm, maturity, good writing and direction, likable characters (yes, I thought Kevin was likable for a bratty teen kid, rofl), etc.
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Old 05-07-2022, 07:24 AM   #25
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Never even heard about that, so what happened?
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Old 05-09-2022, 12:48 AM   #26
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I did not realize he’s had complaints against him before. I thought it was cool he was part of this.

I honestly love this new version. It’s well written, has the right tone and humor. The characters are likable. Dean and his parents imo and they linked it to the original in a clever way...which I expected somehow.

Yes I watched the original in it’s entirety and this has done a great job being it’s own story in the same format. I’ve seen more praise than negativity so it’s not just me defending it. It’s a legitimately good show that deserves another season.
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Old 05-09-2022, 01:49 AM   #27
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Never even heard about that, so what happened?
During what turned out to be the show's final Season, a costume designer filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against Savage and Jason Hervey. It was later settled out of court but there was a lot of bad publicity for a brief period.

There were other factors, such as an escalating budget (due to more location shooting) and the fact that the cast was getting older and yet they could not write realistically "mature" storylines for them due to the show's younger audience and its 8pm time slot.

So there were already concerns about whether or not to call it quits, and supposedly the lawsuit and resultant scandalous headlines were the final straw. Looking back, I remember reading about the incident in the tabloids and them saying that the show was going to be cancelled over it. But I honestly never watched it that much and it was so long ago that I'd long since forgotten about it.

The actress who played the Mom called the allegations "ridiculous" and Savage claimed to have been exonerated, but there was always some uncertainty. Common speculation was, it may have been Hervey who was the instigator and Savage, being younger and more impressionable, may have simply played along. Assuming anything actually happened, of course. But that seems somewhat plausible. Harvey had sort of a reputation as being a bit of a womanizer, or tried to be anyway. He banged Missy Hyatt for a while back when that meant something. So I could see him copping a feel or making suggestive comments, "all in fun", and like Savage just parroting the stuff he was saying to try and be "cool".

I've always been inclined to believe that if anything happened it was probably just "boys will be boys" stuff, not like serious stuff. But regardless, they got sued over it and that was the last straw for the network.
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Old 05-09-2022, 06:09 AM   #28
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Yeah, I looked into the story myself after your comment on it, Leo. It's a bit telling that it was the person involved in costumes who made the complaints in the cases against him. This seems to imply a pattern, like he does this with people who do this job for some reason. What a shame since I enjoyed his work, including those he did as a director like on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
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