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Old 12-03-2003, 01:33 PM   #21
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But Cananda is Communist
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Old 12-03-2003, 02:03 PM   #22
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Just because someone makes mistakes in speeches doesn't mean he or she is stupid. It means he's speaking to 50 million+ people. Try it sometime.

If the repubs really wanted to, they could make a book of stupid things Billy said. BUT it has nothing to do with the actual morals and standards of him; the dems are just trying to get lower IQed people's votes through attacking something as trivial as mistakes in speeches, which like I said have absolutely nothing to do with his goals etc.
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Old 12-03-2003, 02:12 PM   #23
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Bush was partier while he was being educated at Yale. He is not entirely stupid.
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Old 12-03-2003, 02:22 PM   #24
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Neither one.
Words of the wise...seriously!

It's f**ked up political systems such as ours that make me wish we had a proportional representation system of government instead of this damned 2 party system.
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:43 PM   #25
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Heh, if a Westminster system of government and universally available health care is 'communist' then I'm a pinko. Of course, I come from Australia, with exactly the same thing, so I'm already a pinko.

Heh, I remember a report that made comments about the compulsory voting law in Australia, and that we have voter turnout of 90% and above, and the only other countries that came close were communist ones!

All I could think was, "Yeah, well at least most of us get off our fat arses and vote, which is more than I can say for most of America"
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:46 PM   #26
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Neither one. They both have things I like and don't like about them.
Atleast Clinton stopped at pot, and not coke like Dubya.
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Old 12-04-2003, 12:07 AM   #27
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My Opinion....


The Clinton Administration was a farce to the World view. Other countries worried about keeping piece with other nations, this and that. We're all talking about if our president was messing around with his interns. We had an upscale version of petty white trash Jerry Springer Drama going on in our country.


Not my model of a good president.

Dubya has a lil trouble with speeches. Who the heck doesnt?! Jeezum, he's tryingto take charge of a country that got attacked by terrorists for crying out loud. How do you think Clinton would have reacted to such a situation? Gore? Anyone?

As for doing stuff in the past...at least he cleaned up! He's never cheated on his wife, he doesnt mess around with his interns...his daughters do stuff, yeah. but that doesnt reflect on how he runs this country.

He's doing the best he can. Dont give him trouble for he cant do, or has trouble doing. give him credit for the Good he's done.


Thats my opinion.
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Old 12-04-2003, 12:27 AM   #28
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bush or clinton

Bush hands down...wouldn't want it any other way.
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Old 12-04-2003, 10:11 AM   #29
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Atleast Clinton stopped at pot, and not coke like Dubya.
I'm not sure how to interpret that...

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He's never cheated on his wife...
In that case, Bush doesn't sound like a normal President. Do you not know your history, young lady? Do you not know of the countless "mistresses" that presidents such as Washington had ALL THE DAMN TIME???? The only real difference between most presidents in the past and Clinton was that the nation made such a big deal about his "adulterous" ways when it didn't have to. Word of Kennedy's affair while he was in office stayed mostly in the White House and within his family; it wasn't made into a national controversey. We'd all be a lot calmer and happier today had Clinton's affair NOT been made into a public spectacle.
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Dubya has a lil trouble with speeches. Who the heck doesnt?! Jeezum, he's tryingto take charge of a country that got attacked by terrorists for crying out loud.
1) If he can't even construct his sentences properly, how the hell can you expect him to to run the country properly? I sure as hell wouldn't want a guy who's had 2 entire BOOKS written about his language blunders with his fingers on the button to launch nuclear missiles.

2) As far as the terrorist thing goes, they obviously had a reason to attack us, otherwise they wouldn't have in the first place. Could it be that perhaps we Americans are greedy, brutal, ignorant arsewipes who think we run the world? Hmmmmm, COULD BE! This Homeland Security Act hasn't made things better; it's basically turning the US into the world in George Orwell's 1984. What else has this recent "war on terrorism" caused? IMO, it's not so much a war on terrorism as it is a war on all people that are Arabs and all who have dissenting views of the Bush administration. The policy goes something like this: "What? He's an Arab? Then he's a terrorist! He doesn't support our ideas on this war! He's sympathetic to the terrorists! KILL THEM ALL!" And what's with this war in Iraq? To me it's nothing more than Dubya's way of saying, "Look, Dad! I attacked Iraq too, just like you did! Aren't you proud of me?"

And just overall, I think Bush is total d*ck. He's anti-gay (you should already know where I stand on gay rights), anti-atheist (I swear, he's trying to nullify the separation of Church and State clause), and all sorts of other narrow-minded characteristics which I don't care to list right now since it would take all day for me to list them.

Get your mind out of the gutter, Dubya...this ain't the 1950s anymore.
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Old 12-04-2003, 10:21 AM   #30
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Once again Machias, I totally agree with you.
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Old 12-04-2003, 10:32 AM   #31
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Once again Machias, I totally agree with you.
Wow, wasn't that f**king enlightening?

Hello, Relay! Welcome to the 21st century! How's life in the Stone Age? Apparently that's where your mind's at too, since you support Bush...

Given the chance to assassinate Bush, I'd do it...and not just simply shoot him: I'd blow his brains out with a bazooka, stick a d*ldo up his butt afterwards, then take a machete and dismember his body one piece at a time, then douse his remains in gasoline and set them ablaze, and then piss on the ashes afterwards.

Gee, I wonder if I hate Bush beyond belief?
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Old 12-04-2003, 10:35 AM   #32
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Relax Rez...I know youre very intent with your opinions, just be careful with responding to others opinions....
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Old 12-04-2003, 10:35 AM   #33
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Old 12-04-2003, 10:37 AM   #34
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Once again Machias, I totally agree with you.
Wow, wasn't that f**king enlightening?

Hello, Relay! Welcome to the 21st century! How's life in the Stone Age? Apparently that's where your mind's at too, since you support Bush...

Given the chance to assassinate Bush, I'd do it...and not just simply shoot him: I'd blow his brains out with a bazooka, stick a d*ldo up his butt afterwards, then take a machete and dismember his body one piece at a time, then douse his remains in gasoline and set them ablaze, and then piss on the ashes afterwards.

Gee, I wonder if I hate Bush beyond belief?

You have some serious issues, man. I should lock this thread now because you are stepping over the line.
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Old 12-04-2003, 10:39 AM   #35
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The heck with it, these threads go nowhere and Rez just pushed me over the line.

Out come the padlocks on this thread.
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Old 12-05-2003, 04:34 AM   #36
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Wow, wasn't that f**king enlightening?

Hello, Relay! Welcome to the 21st century! How's life in the Stone Age? Apparently that's where your mind's at too, since you support Bush..
Attacking other members is against the forum rules. Since you've done this several times in this and many other threads, the mods and I decided that you deserve a warning. Regardless of how long you've been here or how many posts you have, there's no need to treat others like that.
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