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Old 07-15-2022, 06:04 AM   #21
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There are people Right Now in states like Texas and Mississippi who argue that desegregated schools "ruined" the public school system. More than half a century since it was "a settled issue", people are still banging the drum that their little Klan Members In Training shouldn't have to sit on the bus or at the lunch table with a black kid. And lest we forget, the only way desegregation even happened was by armed soldiers escorting little black children into those schools to protect them. Otherwise they'd have been lynched, and that would be allowed, if left up to the people in those states. And people are actively pushing to set us back to that point in time, arguing that all the racial tension recently "proves" that "segregation doesn't work, we need to stick to our own for everyone's benefit." And some of those people have Actual Power to see it done, if allowed.

Sometimes "progress" can't be left up to individuals, because people are bigoted and stupid. Sometimes you HAVE to force it and tell them "Tough luck if you don't like it." Otherwise nothing ever gets done.

If "States' Rights" were allowed to gain traction, half the country would still have Whites Only signs everywhere, and you'd be allowed to kick gay people out of your restaurant just for being gay. Right now in Tennessee, they're trying to allow businesses to put up "No Jews Allowed" signs and refuse service, so long as there's another business in the immediate area that will serve the Jews. Tell me that doesn't sound like Nazi Germany in its formative years and I'll laugh in your f*cking face.
We're headed right back to a segregated society. Both the left and the right (yes, don't f*cking deny that the right is pushing for this as well) continue to chant that they want segregation, and to keep different cultures and race from 'mixing'. It's so depressing that all the progress that was made decades ago is becoming undone. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing signs with stuff like "No Whites Allowed" and "No Blacks/Jews/LGBT/Latinos/Asians Allowed". We'll see more and more rights stripped as well until we all end up living in a dystopian nightmare where we have to risk being rejected from buying a bag of chips due to not meeting some criteria the shop owners set. Fun times up ahead.
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Old 07-15-2022, 11:17 AM   #22
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and to keep different cultures and race from 'mixing'.
I was with you until this pesky little spot. No, this isn't a thing.

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Old 07-15-2022, 11:31 AM   #23
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I was with you until this [pesky little spot. No, this isn't a thing.
Oh, jeez. You honestly think there's no racism coming from the right?
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Old 07-15-2022, 11:40 AM   #24
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Oh, jeez. You honestly think there's no racism coming from the right?
Not really, no. I'm sure in some pockets of maybe the south you could find some if you really wanted to or maybe people over the age of 80 mumbling about "n****rs" in nursing homes, I guess. What I DO see is alarming amounts of open and loud racism coming from the left. It's everywhere and even encouraged, and now it's being baked in the classrooms.
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Old 07-15-2022, 11:48 AM   #25
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Not really, no. I'm sure in some pockets of maybe the south you could find some if you really wanted to. What I DO see is alarming amounts of open and loud racism coming from the left. It's everywhere and even encouraged, and now it's being baked in the classrooms.
Try going to a forum or board that has a majority of right-wingers (or even Twitter circles that have right-wingers), and announce that you're female, a minority, and/or LGBT+, or any other criteria that right-wingers deem to be 'The Enemy', and watch them proceed to tear you apart no matter what you say to them. Even when I've agreed with them, they don't give a damn. I represent 'The Enemy', and that's that.

I've seen them do this to others too. There's no civility from the left or right. Like Leo said, both sides are now a majority of extremists who want to troll the other side, even when it means ruining themselves. Even in this forum, anyone who leans left even ever so slightly is labeled a 'libtard' until 'proven otherwise', or leans right even ever so slightly, and is labeled a bigot.

Both sides are extremely bigoted, in my experience. I hate them both now, and I think the mania and obsession with politics is ruining society. Go ahead, and call me names or whatever. I don't give a f*ck anymore.
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Old 07-15-2022, 11:51 AM   #26
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Try going to a forum or board that has a majority of right-wingers (or even Twitter circles that have right-wingers), and announce that you're female, a minority, and/or LGBT+, or any other criteria that right-wingers deem to be 'The Enemy', and watch them proceed to tear you apart no matter what you say to them. Even when I've agreed with them, they don't give a damn. I represent 'The Enemy', and that's that.
I believe you (though I suspect you are exaggerating a bit, as you're known to do), but none of that has anything to with race or culture. Female isn't a race or a culture. LGBTQ isn't a race or a culture, no matter how badly they want to pretend it is something more than just what kind of people they want to rub private parts with.

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I've seen them do this to others too. There's no civility from the left or right.
As long as we're talking about the far left and the far right, sure. But in general, just talking about the left in general and the right in general? No. Wrong.
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Old 07-15-2022, 11:55 AM   #27
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(though I suspect you are exaggerating a bit, as you're known to do)
I'm not exaggerating, but thanks for letting me know that I now have a reputation for basically being a liar.

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As long as we're talking about the far left and the far right, sure. But in general, just talking about the left in general and the right in general? No. Wrong.
Far left and far right are basically all I see anymore. Go find someone who's a true centrist who doesn't react the way the members of each 'team' do. It's a rarity now.
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Old 07-15-2022, 11:59 AM   #28
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I'm not exaggerating, but thanks for letting me know that I now have a reputation for basically being a liar.
You just proved my point. Now the word "exaggerate" means "lie," in your book?

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Far left and far right are basically all I see anymore. Go find someone who's a true centrist who doesn't react the way the members of each 'team' do. It's a rarity now.
The true centrists are the most quiet ones of the bunch, by far. They don't want to ruffle any feathers on either side and they're not interested in broadcasting to the world where they stand on politics. So "finding" them would be like playing hide and seek blindfolded in the deep forest.
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Old 07-15-2022, 12:03 PM   #29
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You just proved my point. Now the word "exaggerate" means "lie," in your book?
Not really. You guys basically act like everything I say is a blatant lie nowadays whilst patting me on the head in the most condescending way possible. This just confirms what my real reputation is.

And really, exaggeration is, essentially, lying. It's twisting the truth around to make matters seem different than they truly are, which is lying.

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The true centrists are the most quiet ones of the bunch, by far. They don't want to ruffle any feathers on either side. So "finding" them would be like playing hide and seek blindfolded in the deep forest.
I don't see any of those, online or offline. Everyone's a political expert nowadays, and aren't shy about screaming out their opinions. I even witness this in public since people like to, loudly, discuss politics over their meals at restaurants or hanging out at the mall or whatever.
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Not really. You guys basically act like everything I say is a blatant lie nowadays whilst patting me on the head in the most condescending way possible. This just confirms what my real reputation is.
I don't know what's with this obsession of yours with finding ways you're a victim all the time but it's not a good look. Also not healthy.

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I don't see any of those, online or offline. Everyone's a political expert nowadays, and aren't shy about screaming out their opinions. I even witness this in public since people like to, loudly, discuss politics over their meals at restaurants or hanging out at the mall or whatever.
Well, I can relate. Yes. Lots of people very loudly are suddenly political experts. The same way as soon as there's articles about, "Elon Musk might pull out of buying Twitter! Also, he's a republican now!" suddenly everyone is a legal expert, or with COVID everyone is a disease expert, and so on.
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Old 07-15-2022, 12:10 PM   #31
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I don't know what's with this obsession of yours with finding ways you're a victim all the time but it's not a good look. Also not healthy.
Awesome, Andy. I don't care. If you don't like it, you can block me, and stop reading my 'exaggerations'.
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Old 07-15-2022, 12:55 PM   #32
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it seems people nowadays who identify as “centrists” simply do so cause they don’t wanna be associated with “orange man bad drumpf” that tells me they still believe in mainstream media talking points

at this point you’re either for America and freedom, or for NWO. (D) or (R) is meaningless now, there’s evil on both sides, but obviously more evil on the left

the left loves killing 9 month old babies, loves criminals, soft on crime, letting rapists and terrorists into the country thru open borders, release prisoners cause of “covid”, unconstitutional mask and vaccine mandates, giving billions of US tax dollars away to other countries, lgbtqia+ indoctrination in schools, i could go on an on….

anyone with half a brain knows Trump only wanted the best for this country, and the world
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Old 07-16-2022, 08:11 AM   #33
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Not really, no. I'm sure in some pockets of maybe the south you could find some if you really wanted to or maybe people over the age of 80 mumbling about "n****rs" in nursing homes, I guess. What I DO see is alarming amounts of open and loud racism coming from the left. It's everywhere and even encouraged, and now it's being baked in the classrooms.

"Pockets"?? Try the ENTIRE south! It's literally rampant from Georgia to Texas. We still have people down here who talk about lynchings as "the good ole' days", and entirecTOWNS that are still (de facto, if not legally) "Sunset towns". And yes, it's MOSTLY from hard-core conservatives down here. They literally want every town in every southern state to be black/asian/latin/LGBTQ-free. And they are trying to do just that, or at the least, go back to completely segregated neighborhoods. Rural areas are the worst. The right down here don't even care if immigrants are legal, they want them ALL gone. And all the LGBTQ, too. Some openly talk about how "they need to die"! It's sick and disturbing.
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Old 07-16-2022, 09:50 AM   #34
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"Pockets"?? Try the ENTIRE south! It's literally rampant from Georgia to Texas. We still have people down here who talk about lynchings as "the good ole' days", and entirecTOWNS that are still (de facto, if not legally) "Sunset towns". And yes, it's MOSTLY from hard-core conservatives down here. They literally want every town in every southern state to be black/asian/latin/LGBTQ-free. And they are trying to do just that, or at the least, go back to completely segregated neighborhoods. Rural areas are the worst. The right down here don't even care if immigrants are legal, they want them ALL gone. And all the LGBTQ, too. Some openly talk about how "they need to die"! It's sick and disturbing.
Sounds like the inverse of the extreme left. They want segregation too and also wish certain groups of people would just drop dead or need to die.
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Old 07-16-2022, 10:52 AM   #35
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This is why more and more political experts are certain we're headed for civil war. We're certainly at an extreme impasse, with both sides having been taken over by extremists and nobody having any interest in compromise.

Six months ago, I would have said it was nonsense. But I've been doing a lot of reading and some experts say we're already there, or at least at the point of no return.

To be clear, the image some people have of the country literally splitting in two, forming their own armies and such, isn't what they mean by "civil war". What they're referring to is a "citizens' war" played out as a series of insurrections. Riots, destruction of property, vandalism, fighting in the streets, that sort of thing. And by that criteria... Then yeah, We Are Already There. And it IS going to get worse.

Both parties have been hijacked by extremists who want everyone to "pick a side and take a stand". And gullible people believe their "side" is infallibly pure and decent and the other is Pure Evil. This is what you get.

Everybody who votes is to some degree "radicalized", now. Moderates stay out of it because they see how full of sh*t both sides are from opposite extremes, BUT they/we are overwhelmed and outnumbered by fanatics.

Sad state of affairs, but this is how it goes. I really don't see any way back, at this point.
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Funny thing, that both sides are supported by the same corporations and politicians, which makes the whole thing look like a spectacle, for the sake of distracting people from real enemies - elites.
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Old 07-16-2022, 02:21 PM   #37
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On this we agree.

The only true "war" has always been Rich vs. Poor, and it's always been that way. Everything else is just a distraction. The sickest part of how radicalized people have become through politics is that they cite and follow leaders who don't ACTUALLY believe in or stand for what they claim to. A lot of Democrats are racist and a lot of Republicans get abortions, just for example. The virtues they signal are false. It's all an act. People "take sides" and forget that they're lining up to stand behind people who don't care about them, who don't actually represent them, who profess false beliefs.

The first step to reverse course would be, a LOT of people (on both sides) would have to stand up and say, "I was suckered," and we all know nobody ever does that. So instead, they dig in deeper and get more and more radicalized.

I'm wise enough to know that anarchy isn't a sustainable "solution" for being taken advantage of by a corrupt government. But... at least it would be honest.

I'm not an anarchist because I know it doesn't actually "work."

I AM however a nihilist, because I don't think anything else actually does, either. All systems inevitably collapse, that's Nature. The only constant is Entropy.

More and more experts agree that there simply won't be a United States in 50 years, and I'm rather inclined by this point to agree with those people.
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Old 07-21-2022, 10:34 AM   #38
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The new president of Sri Lanka is WEF puppet Ranil Wickremesinghe. Not good.
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