Disney+ loses 2.4M subscribers, lays off 7,000 workers

*Andrew NDB* · 02-09-2023, 12:00 AM

Not looking good for Disney+.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/disn...ecline-3766191

*Cowabung-Gal* · 02-09-2023, 12:04 AM

They had it coming.

As Jiminy Cricket would say, “You buttered your bread, now sleep in it!”

*Andrew NDB* · 02-09-2023, 01:01 AM

I guess nobody liked Willow or Cassian.

*IMJ* · 02-09-2023, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I guess nobody liked Willow or Cassian.

Amongst other things....

*Roseangelo* · 02-09-2023, 11:55 AM

This isn't a Disney+ layoff, this is all of Disney. The article also mentions the loss of subscribers and tries to correlate the two, but Disney has lots of issues in all its departments.

~~ChosenOne~~ · 02-09-2023, 12:05 PM

Something, something, go broke.

~~AquaParade~~ · 02-09-2023, 12:14 PM

Audience pushed back and they didn't listen. Or maybe the ship is just too big to make a sharp turn.

As for the movie department, Mark Millar, the comicbook author, let it slip that he talked to someone who works behind the scenes at the MCU and that person was basically saying their plan is that 'first they storm the beach, then they storm the town'...
which essentially means they think they've got all the hardcore fans in the can already, and they can now focus on trying to make every other demographic an MCU fan...thus all the pandering, I suppose.
Millar's commentary on that was "You're going to lose the beach". I think he was spot-on and they are now seeing that.

I can't believe how checked-out of the MCU I am. I don't even finish these movies anymore and I certainly don't see them in theaters. If you had told me I'd feel this way, after Endgame, when I was all-in on the MCU, I'd have a hard time believing it. There was such a momentum a few years ago. Not even just narrative-momentum, but meta-momentum. We were seeing the MCU get bigger and greater in front of our eyes. Now it feels like we are regressing. You can see it in the story, the characters. You can plainly see it in the visual effects.

I just don't care anymore what happens in the MCU movies. It's not that I've lost all hope in the MCU, but my stance is a firm "wake me up when this gets back on track".

As you guys already said, this is bigger than the MCU though.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-11-2023, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

I can't believe how checked-out of the MCU I am. I don't even finish these movies anymore and I certainly don't see them in theaters. If you had told me I'd feel this way, after Endgame, when I was all-in on the MCU, I'd have a hard time believing it. There was such a momentum a few years ago. Not even just narrative-momentum, but meta-momentum. We were seeing the MCU get bigger and greater in front of our eyes. Now it feels like we are regressing. You can see it in the story, the characters. You can plainly see it in the visual effects.

I just don't care anymore what happens in the MCU movies. It's not that I've lost all hope in the MCU, but my stance is a firm "wake me up when this gets back on track".

As you guys already said, this is bigger than the MCU though.

I wasn't tracking everything MCU and never watched their TV shows, but I was kind of following movies and was trying to watch them at home, if they were not broadcasted on TV.

I kinda was interested in the story, but after Endgame I felt like that's it for MCU for me: the story had reached it height and there is no way to get back to that point. Besides, for me, with the end of both Iron Man and Captain America, who were my favorite characters in the MCU, it felt like "whatever". In some way, it felt like my reaction to the Metal Gear Solid 4: I had no interest in later games in the series, since MGS4 put a fat dot on the story.

In case of MCU it seems they don't even try to match the hype of Gauntlet Saga: no teases, no direction, I don't know neither care who the **** this Kang is and he even visually he doesn't look all that interesting. Like he is just a human. What kind of Thanos-sized threat is that?

Maybe MCU will fix it, but I think they've seriously believed they are infallible and irreplaceable and they can make piece of **** with Marvel logo and it will make billions. It seems fall of Star Wars didn't teach them anything. And it is hard to backdown from this mentality.

*Papenbrook* · 02-11-2023, 07:41 PM

Nice to know that the Disney corporation is still largely toxic.

Hopefully, those workers will find better jobs.

~~TurtleManiac~~ · 02-12-2023, 05:02 AM

Sad to see this happening to Disney, they’ve had some great memorable movies and cartoons over the years, but lately they seem to have gone off the deep end. Then the layoffs maybe they learned from Elon Musk laying off thousands of Twitter employees and still running the business the same.

*IMJ* · 02-09-2023, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne

Something, something, go broke.

Exactly.
And then they doubled down on it and expected the allegedly "woke" audience to show up and pay $2,000 a night for a Star Wars hotel.

Hellloooo? These people just run their mouths online and gather in the streets to cause damage under phony righteousness. They have zero interest in taking their family to an overpriced Disney experience when they have no family and can dye their hair blue from the safety of Twitter.

These people just want to know that there is a She-Hulk show or a Velma show that has mastered insulting white males, but they don't want to support it financially. It's not a "movement". It's just the online coalescence of the life-angry with dysmorphia disorders of various types. But Disney execs thought they were ahead of a curve by appeasing a culture that they themselves don't even care about.

There is a lot more of this to come from the years of clown-world. Buckle up, @$$holes....

*Cowabung-Gal* · 02-09-2023, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ

There is a lot more of this to come from the years of clown-world. Buckle up, @$$holes....

Nope. I’m outta here.

~~ChosenOne~~ · 02-13-2023, 03:50 PM

My money's on both, Asians (rightly) despise wokeness.

*IMJ* · 02-13-2023, 06:25 PM

Again, when your model to go global isn't authentic but rather an ignorant attempt at "inclusion" then the implosion is at the global scale. The swing is bigger.

Disney isn't "going out of business", there is nothing that "ashame" about this other than the lost livelihoods. The company itself is operating in a system wherein this kind of thing is the fix. I just wish that more 7 figure salaried higher-ups would pay for their top-down edicts as opposed to some blue-hair working a concession stand at a park. The blue-hair has the louder-mouth of course, but the blue-hair only pushed for "hate" policy - it's the higher-ups who employed it.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-13-2023, 07:23 PM

How ironic would it be if placating Chinese audiences finally leads to Disney a good outcome?

*IMJ* · 02-14-2023, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

How ironic would it be if placating Chinese audiences finally leads to Disney a good outcome?

They did that with Iron Man 3, and a few others IIRC as well.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-14-2023, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IMJ

They did that with Iron Man 3

That's to a bad outcome.

02-09-2023, 12:00 AM	#1
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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,586	I guess nobody liked Willow or Cassian. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

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02-09-2023, 12:14 PM	#7
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Audience pushed back and they didn't listen. Or maybe the ship is just too big to make a sharp turn. As for the movie department, Mark Millar, the comicbook author, let it slip that he talked to someone who works behind the scenes at the MCU and that person was basically saying their plan is that 'first they storm the beach, then they storm the town'... which essentially means they think they've got all the hardcore fans in the can already, and they can now focus on trying to make every other demographic an MCU fan...thus all the pandering, I suppose. Millar's commentary on that was "You're going to lose the beach". I think he was spot-on and they are now seeing that. I can't believe how checked-out of the MCU I am. I don't even finish these movies anymore and I certainly don't see them in theaters. If you had told me I'd feel this way, after Endgame, when I was all-in on the MCU, I'd have a hard time believing it. There was such a momentum a few years ago. Not even just narrative-momentum, but meta-momentum. We were seeing the MCU get bigger and greater in front of our eyes. Now it feels like we are regressing. You can see it in the story, the characters. You can plainly see it in the visual effects. I just don't care anymore what happens in the MCU movies. It's not that I've lost all hope in the MCU, but my stance is a firm "wake me up when this gets back on track". As you guys already said, this is bigger than the MCU though. Last edited by AquaParade; 02-09-2023 at 12:20 PM.

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~~ChosenOne~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,951	Something, something, go broke.

02-11-2023, 07:41 PM	#9
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	Nice to know that the Disney corporation is still largely toxic. Hopefully, those workers will find better jobs.

02-12-2023, 05:02 AM	#10
~~TurtleManiac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: KALI Posts: 1,008	Sad to see this happening to Disney, they’ve had some great memorable movies and cartoons over the years, but lately they seem to have gone off the deep end. Then the layoffs maybe they learned from Elon Musk laying off thousands of Twitter employees and still running the business the same.

02-13-2023, 03:50 PM	#13
~~ChosenOne~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,951	My money's on both, Asians (rightly) despise wokeness.

02-13-2023, 06:25 PM	#14
IMJ Emperor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest, U.S.A. Posts: 8,901	Again, when your model to go global isn't authentic but rather an ignorant attempt at "inclusion" then the implosion is at the global scale. The swing is bigger. Disney isn't "going out of business", there is nothing that "ashame" about this other than the lost livelihoods. The company itself is operating in a system wherein this kind of thing is the fix. I just wish that more 7 figure salaried higher-ups would pay for their top-down edicts as opposed to some blue-hair working a concession stand at a park. The blue-hair has the louder-mouth of course, but the blue-hair only pushed for "hate" policy - it's the higher-ups who employed it. __________________ Wave 1 Collectibles Online Market Watch Blog Collection Photography

02-13-2023, 07:23 PM	#15
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,586	How ironic would it be if placating Chinese audiences finally leads to Disney a good outcome? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]