The Dark Knight Rises

[Leo656]

I do agree that as its own work, Dark Knight Rises can't compare with either of the prequel films, mostly because without them as a backstory it falls apart. Just yesterday I overheard guys I work with talking about how bad it was, while admitting they never saw Batman Begins, which sort of makes DKR stop making anything resembling sense. You physically can't enjoy it without having watched the others recently, and that is a flaw any way you look at it. I'm forgiving of the problems since it was never going to be anything other than a Part 3, with all the problems they usually have.

Still better than most movies out this year and definitely anything that's out at the moment. Maybe not Oscar worthy, but I'm willing to bet if I watched whatever movie does go on to win Best Picture, I'm pretty sure DKR would still be better. But I'm in no way objective.

[shuriken]

Originally Posted by Stryker

My problem with Bane's voice isn't that I didn't understand him. It's that he sounded like Sean Connery doing a dudley do right impression.

I totally agree. It wasn't even the suave James Bond Sean Connery, but the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Sean Connery, 60 something and kind of jolly.
I swear anything would have made that voice more intimidating ( or maybe Nolan was trying to go for a Mike Tyson effect by making this big imposing man beast sound like a joke)
I disliked that Bruce was in hiding and stopped being Batman for such a long time, but whatever Rachel's death hit him hard.
Also 15 minutes of Batman kinda sucked, even if those 15 minutes provided some of the most brutal Batman fight scenes brought to the big screen.
Aside from those little nitpicks I enjoyed this movie quite a bit.
I liked the supporting cast (more than Batman himself this time around) and how it not only wrapped up all the loose ends quite nicely, but left it open for a new Batman to step up.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

The worst part about the trilogy, at this point, is that Batman never amassed a decent rogues gallery. I envisioned the 8 year gap to be Bruce running himself ragged fighting Hush, Riddler, Penguin, Deadshot etc.

But there was the direct-to-DVD anthology film Batman: Gotham Knight which takes place in the Nolan universe. It introduced characters like Killer Croc and Deadshot.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Both of the fights with Bane were brutal. Very well done. Bane's voice was kind of cheesy, and I miss the latino accent, but they tied him in with the league of Shadows so it was acceptable that he was Siberian or whatever.

There's actually nothing in the movie that says Bane is not Latino or from Santa Prisca.

TDKR was awesome. Everything I was hoping to see, I saw, and I'm itching to see it again.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

There's actually nothing in the movie that says Bane is not Latino or from Santa Prisca.

My point still stands, I miss the Latino accent over... ya know, what we got.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

My point still stands, I miss the Latino accent over... ya know, what we got.

You miss it from what, the cartoons? For all we know, Bane sounds like Tom Hardy in the comics. As we saw in "Vengeance of Bane," Pena Duro (the prison in Santa Prisca he grew up in from birth to about 30) was pretty secular... lots of white guys (Bane's own right hand men, in fact... Zombie, Trogg, and Bird), and guys of many races. Since he was born there, it's not inconceivable that he'd have little or no distinctive Latin accent.

And "Santa Prisca" is basically a made-up version of Cuba, just like "Gotham City" is a made-up version of New York. And many, many Cubans look like regular white guys.

[Xav]

One thing I didn't get about Bane's plan. He wanted Bruce to watch Gotham blow-up and than he was gonna kill him. But it seems like he was gonna stay in the city until the bomb detonated. Are we really supposed to believe that Bane and all his men were suicidal?

[The Stryker]

Maybe he just didn't want to succeed at all. I mean, why else would he put Batman in the cell RIGHT NEXT to the doctor that saved him from sure death?

"I'm pretty sure these guys won't help you. Pretty sure. I'm also betting that you won't get back to Gotham from some middle eastern country with no money or identification in a month..... Alright by-eeeee!" He might as well have tied him up over a vat of acid.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You miss it from what, the cartoons?

I know you hate animated adaptions, but yes, the cartoons.

And I take back what I said, I don't miss the Latino accent, I just miss him not sounding totally corny.

Either way, I still think the movie rocks.

[Shreddhead]

Originally Posted by Xav

One thing I didn't get about Bane's plan. He wanted Bruce to watch Gotham blow-up and than he was gonna kill him. But it seems like he was gonna stay in the city until the bomb detonated. Are we really supposed to believe that Bane and all his men were suicidal?

I assumed that Bane's followers were either members of The League of Assassins or wanna be members that followed Bane. Their ideology is pretty much do what master says for the good of the master's plan. You saw in the beginning how the one dude was totally cool with staying in the crashing plane so there would be the right amount of bodies.

[CyberCubed]

I just realized Batman in costume only appears in 3 scenes of the entire movie. The first part where he comes back to Gotham for the first time chasing Bane on the motorcycle....the second scene which is essentially Batman Vs. Bane with him losing...and then basically the climax of the movie.

Way too little actual Batman in this movie.