The CONFIRMED New Season - Page 25

*Spitfire* · 11-23-2007, 02:09 PM

Why is an episode considered a filler if it doesn't tie into somestoryline later? Fillers to me were always clip shows. I don't know I believed Laird when he said no fillers.

Ra · 11-23-2007, 04:44 PM

Fillers are episodes that have absolutely nothing to do with the main plot or story, or develop characters any further than they already are. They are like "flash back" episodes, or whatever. I don't think, from seasons 1 to 5 (The Lost Season), there were hardly any filler episodes. Only two come to mind for me, but that's it. I haven't bothered watching any of Fast Forward, so I can't say if there are any filler episodes in it or not (though I strongly think there were a couple).

But yeah, I remember when I was watching the interview with Laird on the first disk that he said that he wanted everything to tie in together. No filler episodes, with the occasional rehash episode to keep everyone up to date on events from the past two seasons or something of the like. But yeah...the continuity was something I hope is brought back with the new season...

Splinter's Iroonna · 11-23-2007, 05:52 PM

You know, despite the hype by 4kids-- they (Fast Forward) actually managed to keep some continuity after all. Yes, LOTS of stand-alone stories, but I soon began to see that there was an attempt to tie it all together.

*CyberCubed* · 11-23-2007, 08:44 PM

FF did have an arc, it generally had two of them. One about Shoko'nobo (resolved at the end of the season), and one about Darius and the Dark Turtles. (unresolved)

When they weren't around we were simply filled time with Jammerhead, Triple Threat or Torbin Zixx and Zukko.

If 4kids knew that FF was only going to last 1 season from the getgo I imagine we'd have less stand-alone eps and more about Darius. The season was written with the belief that they were going to do a second season of it, so that's why it seems like it had a lot of "padding" and it ended rather abruptly.

*Sage Ninja* · 11-23-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Why is an episode considered a filler if it doesn't tie into somestoryline later? Fillers to me were always clip shows. I don't know I believed Laird when he said no fillers.

beats me, I for one actually like "breather" episodes where the turtles take on a situatuon or threat that is not apart of the main on going story arc. And what exactly is wrong with them any way? Just because they aren't apart of the main plot or conflict doesn't mean that they can't still be engaging or offer character development. I liked episode such as the "The King" with Donatello's solo adventure with that Kirby guy, and even offered a rare glimpse of deep emotion on Donatello's part. Also episodes like Lone Raph and Cub, Touch and Go, Nobody's Fool, and Graduation Day 2105 are all stand alone and offer a nice self contained conflict with engaging characters and stroy telling and even character development. And most of the time the stand alone epside still tye in with the main plot.

*Spitfire* · 11-23-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

FF did have an arc, it generally had two of them. One about Shoko'nobo (resolved at the end of the season), and one about Darius and the Dark Turtles. (unresolved)

When they weren't around we were simply filled time with Jammerhead, Triple Threat or Torbin Zixx and Zukko.

If 4kids knew that FF was only going to last 1 season from the getgo I imagine we'd have less stand-alone eps and more about Darius. The season was written with the belief that they were going to do a second season of it, so that's why it seems like it had a lot of "padding" and it ended rather abruptly.

I viewed each villain as an arc of their own. If you notice they were all tied up and each had about three episodes. Zixx finally got tricked, Triple Threat put away for good, Jammerhead as well, Shoko dead, and Darius still unresolved. Oh the Gunjin as well got an ending.

*Cure* · 11-23-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

I viewed each villain as an arc of their own. If you notice they were all tied up and each had about three episodes. Zixx finally got tricked, Triple Threat put away for good, Jammerhead as well, Shoko dead, and Darius still unresolved. Oh the Gunjin as well got an ending.

And Bishop, technically. He had his own couple of good episodes. Not really a villain anymore, but you know what I mean.

*Spitfire* · 11-24-2007, 12:06 AM

Yes tieing up the Baxter arc and showing how Bishop became a good guy was great.

*VaughnMichael* · 11-24-2007, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Yes tieing up the Baxter arc and showing how Bishop became a good guy was great.

I agree that made me really happy...I know I'm a wuss whatever but it I seriously almost cried when baxter almost died when everything started falling down.
But good old Bishop saved him.

*Warhorse* · 11-24-2007, 05:18 PM

So, was Ninja Turtles on today? Was it a new episode?

*ToTheNines* · 11-24-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

So, was Ninja Turtles on today? Was it a new episode?

Yes and no

It was "DNA is Thicker than Water" and "Night of Sh'okanabo".

*CyberCubed* · 11-24-2007, 08:01 PM

Season 5 won't be airing on 4kidsTV till like January at the earliest.

Mutated Leo · 11-26-2007, 02:36 PM

It's going to seem like forever until the new show is on.

*Drtooth* · 11-26-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutated Leo

It's going to seem like forever until the new show is on.

Nah... Just until next fall or so. I hope they take their time. Everything about FF screamed rushed.

*BubblyShell22* · 11-26-2007, 03:08 PM

Yeah, FF was kinda rushed. I can't wait to see the Lost Season, but after that we have no new TMNT until possibly the fall. So, I guess we'll just have to wait. But at least TLS is getting aired, so I'm happy about that.

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-26-2007, 03:59 PM

I'll have fun waiting, as long we start getting some new info faster

Getting excited is half the fun....almost.

Ra · 11-28-2007, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

I hope they take their time. Everything about FF screamed rushed.

Agreed. Some of the episodes just seemed to be thought up on the spot and animated in a day with a gag thrown in at the last minute or something of the like to keep everything funny. It...it just didn't feel that right.

*BubblyShell22* · 11-28-2007, 10:07 AM

I agree with that. It's almost like they didn't have time to develop the story. And even though most of it did have continuity, it didn't feel that continuous like 2K3 did, but maybe that's because there were no multiple story arcs.

CJStyles · 11-28-2007, 06:51 PM

As long as they go back to what they did through seasons 1-4 then we'll be alright.

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-29-2007, 04:18 PM

Agreed, the structure of the first 4 season's was a fine one. A few good story arcs, a few filler episodes, and finale's every time If I remember correctly.

11-23-2007, 02:09 PM	#481
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Why is an episode considered a filler if it doesn't tie into somestoryline later? Fillers to me were always clip shows. I don't know I believed Laird when he said no fillers. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

11-23-2007, 04:44 PM	#482
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	Fillers are episodes that have absolutely nothing to do with the main plot or story, or develop characters any further than they already are. They are like "flash back" episodes, or whatever. I don't think, from seasons 1 to 5 (The Lost Season), there were hardly any filler episodes. Only two come to mind for me, but that's it. I haven't bothered watching any of Fast Forward, so I can't say if there are any filler episodes in it or not (though I strongly think there were a couple). But yeah, I remember when I was watching the interview with Laird on the first disk that he said that he wanted everything to tie in together. No filler episodes, with the occasional rehash episode to keep everyone up to date on events from the past two seasons or something of the like. But yeah...the continuity was something I hope is brought back with the new season... __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

11-23-2007, 05:52 PM	#483
Splinter's Iroonna Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 401	You know, despite the hype by 4kids-- they (Fast Forward) actually managed to keep some continuity after all. Yes, LOTS of stand-alone stories, but I soon began to see that there was an attempt to tie it all together. __________________ Original banner by Imagi, comments/adaptations by Ninjatron-- check out his blog! http://astroboyworld.blogspot.com/

11-24-2007, 12:06 AM	#488
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Yes tieing up the Baxter arc and showing how Bishop became a good guy was great. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

11-26-2007, 02:36 PM	#493
Mutated Leo Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: P-Town Posts: 143	It's going to seem like forever until the new show is on. __________________ "He who lives without honor, ends without honor" ~Master Splinter

11-23-2007, 08:44 PM	#484
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,824	FF did have an arc, it generally had two of them. One about Shoko'nobo (resolved at the end of the season), and one about Darius and the Dark Turtles. (unresolved) When they weren't around we were simply filled time with Jammerhead, Triple Threat or Torbin Zixx and Zukko. If 4kids knew that FF was only going to last 1 season from the getgo I imagine we'd have less stand-alone eps and more about Darius. The season was written with the belief that they were going to do a second season of it, so that's why it seems like it had a lot of "padding" and it ended rather abruptly.

11-24-2007, 05:18 PM	#490
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	So, was Ninja Turtles on today? Was it a new episode?

11-24-2007, 08:01 PM	#492
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,824	Season 5 won't be airing on 4kidsTV till like January at the earliest.

11-26-2007, 03:08 PM	#495
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yeah, FF was kinda rushed. I can't wait to see the Lost Season, but after that we have no new TMNT until possibly the fall. So, I guess we'll just have to wait. But at least TLS is getting aired, so I'm happy about that.

11-26-2007, 03:59 PM	#496
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	I'll have fun waiting, as long we start getting some new info faster Getting excited is half the fun....almost.

11-28-2007, 10:07 AM	#498
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I agree with that. It's almost like they didn't have time to develop the story. And even though most of it did have continuity, it didn't feel that continuous like 2K3 did, but maybe that's because there were no multiple story arcs.

11-28-2007, 06:51 PM	#499
CJStyles Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 277	As long as they go back to what they did through seasons 1-4 then we'll be alright. __________________

11-29-2007, 04:18 PM	#500
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Agreed, the structure of the first 4 season's was a fine one. A few good story arcs, a few filler episodes, and finale's every time If I remember correctly.