Justice Leauge Unlimited: "Epilogue"

[ZariusTwo]

Have any of the canadian members here seen the finale? If you hav'nt, get ready for some spoilers



This is'nt neccersarily a Justice Leauge episode, instead, "Epilouge" serves as the finale of the Batman animated universe we've known for ten years

Spoiler:

It's set once more in the future timeline of Batman Beyond, Terry discovers that his DNA matches Bruces', and is horrified to learn that Wayne is actually his father, he storms out of the Batcave, leaves the Justice Leauge, and breaks up with Dana. He is later confronted by Amanda Waller, who explains that Bruce overwrote Terrys' fathers' compatible DNA with Bruces using nanotechology, so essentially not only is Terry Bruces' son, he's also his clone.

There's also a small cameo from The Phantasm, who was hired to kill The Mcguinesses, but she could'nt go through with it, eventually, Terry accepts his destiny as Batman, and as he flies into the night on partrol, we hear a new versuion of the original Animated Series theme song.

This is'nt the end of J.L.U however, it's back next season, I've also heard it's a good episode when you watch it, so don't judge it on the premise alone.

[Anarky]

I added the spoiler warnings and started the download of this episode. It does sound rather good.

EDIT: I had to stop the blasted download again, since I'm once more way past my bandwidth limit. I hate my greedy provider. I really hate that bastard. good thing I'm planning on moving. Bastard!

[GK Punk]

I haven't been watching JLU, unfortunetly... but I am Aquiring this episode right now, it sounds to good to pass up.

...Can anyone tell me what episodes Supergirl has appeared in? I'd like to see those.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Supergirl was in the first episode, and another one featuring an evil clone!

I can't believe you're missing out on it! It's a truly fantastic show! It's even miles ahead of the previous series!

I have not seen the episode reffered to here, but would sure like to. Has it aired on CN yet?

[Barkworm]

Although the idea of "Project: Batman Beyond" was pretty lame, the episode was well done. I especially liked the ending and the Bruce Wayne-Batman flashback. Are there any more episode with the grown-up Terry?

[Raph's Girl]

Unfortunatly this ep won't be airing on CN for at least a month. Canadians get all the good eps.

As for more eps with Terry. I suggest you watch the JLU ep "The Once And Future Thing pt 2"

There's this weird arse time travelor who traveled thru time and tried to steal one of Batman's utility belts but Batman, Green Lantern, and Wonder Woman followed him thru time to try to stop him. First they end up in the old west where they meet with the original Justice League... Bat Lash, Jonah Hex (a bounty hunter who chased after Ra's Al Ghul for years), El Diablo, and Sheriff Ohiyesa Smith.

Well anyways...they (GL, Batman, and WW) end up 50 years in their future. Where they team up with what's left of that timeline's Justice League: Static Shock (who's the world's greatest hero in this time period...there was an ep of Static Shock in which young Static went to the future and saved his older self...really good ep), Batman(who by this time is a ful fledged JLer), Warhawk (who was featured in a couple Batman Beyond eps), and Old Bruce Wayne.

Seems that the time traveling nutcase and his goons (the Jokerz) killed off the rest of the League. Im still wondering how many Dee Dee's there are....there's like 6 or 7 of em compared to the 2 in "Return of the Joker"....Dee Dee seems to have the powers to duplicate herself....I suppose that's a er helpful power for the granddaughters of Joker

Anyways....good ep...my fave scene is when Terry introduces the 2 Bruce Wayne's *L*

"Bruce Wayne...Batman... Batman...Bruce Wayne....or have you already met?"

And the major thing (at least for me anyways and all Green Lantern/Hawk Girl fans) was Warhawk....turns out he's the son of GL and Hawkgirl...

Warhawk: "Rex...Rex Stewart"
GL: "Who's your mother??"
*Warhawk spreads out his wings*: "I would think it would be obvious.."
Static Shock: "Shayera was one cranky pregnant lady!"

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

I finally got to see this episode on CN and it is everything I read it would be. They used every version of that Batman universe and it was great. I REALLY liked when Phantasm showed up, I really wish she was used more. Again, I think JLU is great, even better than the last JL show, and I'm even digging that version of Superman because of it. (I did NOT like Superman: TAS).

On the subject of Teen Titans, I happen to love that show, and I don't appreciate it being grouped in with "The Batman", even if you don't like it, you KNOW it deserves more credit than "the Batman". And for the record, Justice League, while incorporating old-gen continuity, is ALSO a "new generation" superhero show.

And, to be honest there is one thing about Teen Titans that bothers me. It's the lack of continuity between episodes. Especially regarding Terra. For instance after she joined the Titans, she only was in the episodes that were specifically about her. THAT was stupid. Also, after she died/petrified, Beast Boy was fine the next episode?! I think he should have been depressed for at least a few episodes afterward, we didn't even get a scene of Robin asking Beast Boy if he was alright the next episode.

Still, for all it's faults (I really consider the thing I just bitched about it's only real flaw), I do love Teen Titans, and anyone who says TT is too "kiddy" should have really watched the latest trilogy, THAT was every bit as mature as a JLU plotline and even had a few references to past plotlines. Evil Beast Boy using Terra to taunt good BB was cool, and showing Slade with his skin melted off (meaning his return from the dead was incomplete), was quite a surprise.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Tetsu Deinonychus

Still, for all it's faults (I really consider the thing I just bitched about it's only real flaw), I do love Teen Titans, and anyone who says TT is too "kiddy" should have really watched the latest trilogy, THAT was every bit as mature as a JLU plotline and even had a few references to past plotlines. Evil Beast Boy using Terra to taunt good BB was cool, and showing Slade with his skin melted off (meaning his return from the dead was incomplete), was quite a surprise.

"The End" Part 3 was unbelvibly weak, maintaining the status quoe and not evolving, or drasticlly changing the characters, at all, it was a huge let down, Trigoin may return one day, and yet that arc had beeb built up for years. Raven goes back to her traditional look despite the fact shes' supposedly "purified", what a cop out.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Again, my only problem with the show is their failure to change, or acknowledge the changes they suppossedly made (again, Terra saga). I do agree about Raven's costume, and the way they again missed an opportunity to change things. But, it just doesn't ruin the show for me.

But, at least you saw it instead of just forming your opinion on one of the goofy filler episodes.

[DrSpengler]

Originally Posted by Tetsu Deinonychus

But, at least you saw it instead of just forming your opinion on one of the goofy filler episodes.

I've seen every episode of Teen Titans save for maybe 2 or 3 (I missed the end to the Trigon arc), so I'd say I've put a lot of thought into my opinion.

Whenever JLU gets serious they don't cop-out by panning to Booster Gold and having him fart at the audience and then follow that with all the characters morphing into little midgets, running around in circles with bubbles around their heads.

Big difference.

That's my major peeve with Teen Titans, because when it WANTS to be, it can be very cool and very dark. "Haunted" is one of my favorite episodes. Yet whenever Slade starts tearing Robin's sh1t up they pan to Beast Boy in the infirmary blowing snot out of his nose or something stupid like that.

JLU doesn't need to throw in needless anime facial expressions or Jar-Jar Binks-quality "humor" when they're least necessary simply to pander to the stupid otaku crowd/children under 10/people with downs syndrome.

I would never rank Teen Titans anywhere near JLU.

And as far as the comedy relief episodes go, I actually like a few of them as they don't try to be something they aren't. They're strictly comedy and they know it. The one where they go inside Mumbo's hat is easily one of my favorite episodes of the series and I always enjoy watching reruns of that one; as it's clever, surreal and Tom Kinney gives one of his best performances ever.

If Teen Titans would just keep the comedy in the comedy episodes and the serioues stuff in the serious episodes then I'd enjoy it a lot more.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

I've seen every episode of Teen Titans save for maybe 2 or 3 (I missed the end to the Trigon arc), so I'd say I've put a lot of thought into my opinion.

Good, I may not agree with it, but I can certainly respect it.

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Whenever JLU gets serious they don't cop-out by panning to Booster Gold and having him fart at the audience and then follow that with all the characters morphing into little midgets, running around in circles with bubbles around their heads.

Big difference.

True, but I wish, just once, they'd do that. You know, just to f* with us. I like a show to mess with my mind a bit.

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

That's my major peeve with Teen Titans, because when it WANTS to be, it can be very cool and very dark. "Haunted" is one of my favorite episodes. Yet whenever Slade starts tearing Robin's sh1t up they pan to Beast Boy in the infirmary blowing snot out of his nose or something stupid like that.

Haunted was great, and yeah I didn't appreciate the snot thing, but I like how they can switch from drama to comedy at the drop of a hat. Keeps ya guessing. As I said MY only major peeve is while that they end every episode with things being back to normal, or don't acknowledge in the next episode when they do make a change. The Terra saga is the best example of that.

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

JLU doesn't need to throw in needless anime facial expressions or Jar-Jar Binks-quality "humor" when they're least necessary simply to pander to the stupid otaku crowd/children under 10/people with downs syndrome.

I most certainly do enjoy how JLU is essentually a TV version of a Justice League comic book. It's a bout time we gave our comics proper respect on TV the way Japan does with their's.

Still, I wish they'd have an episode with Myksilplik (sp?) or some other villian that distorts reality so just one they could cut loose with the psychedelic comedy like TT does.

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

I would never rank Teen Titans anywhere near JLU.

Well, we're all entitled to our own rankings, but in my chart TT ranks just one notch below JLU and one notch above regular JL. The only recent superhero shows I don't like are "The Batman" and "Smallville" (a 90210 rip-off about Superman is still a 90210 rip-off).

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

And as far as the comedy relief episodes go, I actually like a few of them as they don't try to be something they aren't. They're strictly comedy and they know it. The one where they go inside Mumbo's hat is easily one of my favorite episodes of the series and I always enjoy watching reruns of that one; as it's clever, surreal and Tom Kinney gives one of his best performances ever.

I like the "Mad Mod" episodes, and any ep. with a romantic plot.

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

If Teen Titans would just keep the comedy in the comedy episodes and the serioues stuff in the serious episodes then I'd enjoy it a lot more.

I can understand that