No Krang????? Less Pizza???????? - Page 3

~~Tokka-B~~ · 12-05-2002, 12:54 PM

And plus, everyone is posting within seconds of each other so we don't see what you say if you finish a post before someone, sheesh. Just take it easy buddy...

**Karpo_007** · 12-05-2002, 12:58 PM

Yeah all liked the show as kids. But what annoys me, is that some people are still saying that the new show can't beat the old one. Im sure it can. There is nothing really special about the old cartoon, except maybe the first season. I still find it very good.

Sparvid · 12-05-2002, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rat King

Whoa hold on, time out, that was by one of the guest artists at Mirage. The Mirage continuity is really only the stuff by Eastman, Laird, Lawson, Berger, Farley, and Veitch (although Zulli's stuff was cool it's not continuity). Some of the work by the guest artists at Mirage was quite bad too.

I'm going to check a little after somewhat "silly" things from the "official" creators. Soon back for an update...

**Karpo_007** · 12-05-2002, 01:00 PM

Issue trough 38-41. Thos are bad. They are a parody of TMNT and definetly the worst part of Mirage series.

Aztec General · 12-05-2002, 01:02 PM

There's plenty of humour in the Mirage continuity. You can probably find some good ones too. Ummm let me think issue #15, the new series has a lot...etc. I'm just saying that the page you had was one of the more particularly bizarre, guest writers. For the record I hope there's humour in the new toon as well, but more subtle humour.

I'm calm now, I just don't like it when I think people mince my words is all

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Mondo_Gecko · 12-05-2002, 01:03 PM

Well I still love the Old Show, It will always be my fav. But the Leech Mutant story in Mirage is one of the coolest i've ever read.

Aztec General · 12-05-2002, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondo_Gecko

Well I still love the Old Show, It will always be my fav. But the Leech Mutant story in Mirage is one of the coolest i've ever read.

That's from the "Old Man River" trilogy by Rich Veitch. That's a real good arc.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 12-05-2002, 01:06 PM

It is impossible to compare the 2 series...2 completely different times, things werent as expensive either so you can't count money rake-ins, and you also can't go back in time to see how you enjoyed it and compare it now, plus at different ages you react to enjoyment differently as well....so you see it is pretty much literally impossible to compare...

The only thing that can be said is that without the first one, there would be no second!

*Anarchistguy* · 12-05-2002, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rat King

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Enough, Enough, Enough! Oh man!!!!!!!!!! (Bangs head against wall)

THERE'S NO PIZZA, NO KRANG, NO BEBOP, NO ROCKSTEADY, NO STUPID FROGS IN HAWAII SHIRTS, ETC............ Deal with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahem...What I meant to say was that I think it's time that everyone realize this show will NOT be anything like the last one. It's also important to note that this is a really GOOD thing. I dare anyone over the age of 16 to go over to
www.ninjaturtlesnetwork.com/[/url] ,go under the tv section, and watch any of the clips of the original toon; then come back here and tell me that the show was good by: today's standards or adult intelligence! Unless you enjoy completely mindless camp (which you are allowed to by the way) then you will not see the old show in the same light you once did.

If this new show turns out the way Laird is hyping it up, believe me that no one will be disatisfied. If you want the true TMNT (I say true because this is how the creators wanted them, and because it was the first) then read the Mirage comics. You'll be laughing at yourself for wanting a bunch of pizza eating, non-fighting, '80's surfer talking turtles.

Sorry I get so worked up but I just don't understand this at all. I think nostalgia is blocking many of your reasoning capacities.

I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!!!!!! SWEET JESUS!!!

If you think Turtles not eating pizza, no dumb mutants ,no violence and no Krang sucks, then just don't watch the show, OKAY???!!!

(Sorry, it's just that I'm all worked up about the mew cartoon!!)

Quote:

(Goes to fridge gets a Bud sits back and calms down).

Now that'ts a good idea!!

~~Tokka-B~~ · 12-05-2002, 01:51 PM

Your acting as if you already saw the new series and it was the best thing you ever saw....

*Anarchistguy* · 12-05-2002, 02:06 PM

it's just that I'm all worked up about the new cartoon

**Karpo_007** · 12-05-2002, 02:51 PM

Yeah we really can't know yet. On paper it sounds almost perfect, but we need to see an episode before we can say anyhting for sure..

Shellfox · 12-05-2002, 03:44 PM

So the old show wasn't great, for most of us its a chace to suspend maturity for 20 min and just be a kid again, I admit ti wasn't great but it had itrs moments, like the last season OK not great by most standards but cool if you look at it as a whole a breath of freash air with a new look.
Comparison between the New and old shows is innevitable but its to soon, wait till we get some hard fact, or at the least opinions from fans who have some how seen it. So the people working on it say its great, what do you expect them to say, its crap, no they want us to watch so they will say its good, till we have real hard proof we don't know what the finished product of the show will be like.
Yes the show should be based on the Mirage comic, well technicly so was the old cartoon and everything else turtle. The show will be a compomis of all those involved, and have to bow down to the restrictions of the network. And not to mention they still have to worry about Parents getting up in arms about the least little thing so expect it to be a little silly at times. Its still doing to be directed at kids to a degree, if it wasn't it wouldn't be on, on Saturday morning.
OK so it won't be like the old cartoon, thats not to say it won't be like it at times, perhaps not ententionaly but it may be simply due to the restriction laid down. And you never know they may do like MOTU and do little tributes to the old show, nothing big maybe a little word here or there as a show of respcet to the fan who came on that why.
Look its a few months till we see the show and their no point in arguing over what it will bw like till we know more

BigThew · 12-05-2002, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rat King:
AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Enough, Enough, Enough! Oh man!!!!!!!!!! (Bangs head against wall)

THERE'S NO PIZZA, NO KRANG, NO BEBOP, NO ROCKSTEADY, NO STUPID FROGS IN HAWAII SHIRTS, ETC............ Deal with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahem...What I meant to say was that I think it's time that everyone realize this show will NOT be anything like the last one. It's also important to note that this is a really GOOD thing. I dare anyone over the age of 16 to go over to
www.ninjaturtlesnetwork.com/[/url] ,go under the tv section, and watch any of the clips of the original toon; then come back here and tell me that the show was good by: today's standards or adult intelligence! Unless you enjoy completely mindless camp (which you are allowed to by the way) then you will not see the old show in the same light you once did.

If this new show turns out the way Laird is hyping it up, believe me that no one will be disatisfied. If you want the true TMNT (I say true because this is how the creators wanted them, and because it was the first) then read the Mirage comics. You'll be laughing at yourself for wanting a bunch of pizza eating, non-fighting, '80's surfer talking turtles.

Sorry I get so worked up but I just don't understand this at all. I think nostalgia is blocking many of your reasoning capacities.

I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!!!!!! SWEET JESUS!!!

If you think Turtles not eating pizza, no dumb mutants ,no violence and no Krang sucks, then just don't watch the show, OKAY???!!!

Ok i am 16..TMNT was MY FAVORITE cartoon EVER..even tho it started when i was born, so iwhat, i began watching it at like 4 or sumthing and loved it, bought all the vhs, toys and such, it was MY FAVORTIE, i have most o the episodes downloaded

by today standards it isn't great, bt the cartoon is ALMOST like a legend, a classic, THIS is what made TMNT popular, and then lead people to the comic book

heck cartoons ARE MEANT for kids (besides some japanese and some movies) they are meant for kids to enjoy because of the vibrant colors and visuals that are appealing to a childs mind

i am sorry but no matter what the old TMNT will forever be in my mind as one of the best cartoon's america has to offer and the new one will never change that...granted the new TMNT has a ton to live up to, i am sure it will be great, but to me the old one will always be great!!!

Mondo_Gecko · 12-05-2002, 04:03 PM

YES TMNT old cartoon ROCKED AND IT WILL ALWAYS ROCK!!!!

**HorseTechie** · 12-06-2002, 11:51 AM

Bleah....

Geez guys, can we like perhaps "hold the phone" and "take a couple chill pills"... or does the phrase "go sucka lemon mean anything to yah"?

And then acept this one thing: Change is gooooood.

Just cause the Turtles aren't eating pizza 24 hours / 7 dyas a weeks doesn't mean they'll go out and have a pizza night one weekend. And I'll betcha that these Purple Dragon gang characters will be just as charming as Krang, RockSteady, and Bebop.

So can we PLEEEEASE tone it down a bit.. before I have to get busy witht he edit functions in here. Sankyuuuuu!

**Karpo_007** · 12-06-2002, 12:12 PM

The fact is that if you watched the whole old series now, you would orobably find that it is made for kids, not for older people.

Altough there are somethings that were good in the old series, There's no point to recreate it. And it won't ever happen so if you want Rocksteady and Bebop, start writing fanfics.

Raphael-sama · 12-06-2002, 01:08 PM

This new cartoon is made for kids. It's made to get kids' arses into chairs and watch, and then to get them to run to mommy and daddy to beg for toys about the show they just watched.

That's how it's ALWAYS BEEN. For EVERY CARTOON IN HISTORY THAT HAS A TOYLINE TO GO WITH IT. I don't CARE if Laird is personally involved in the project, I don't CARE if they're catering more toward the old Mirage crowd, it is STILL A CHILD'S CARTOON, MADE TO MAKE MONEY.

Done.

-Badabing.

Shellfox · 12-06-2002, 01:49 PM

It would be cool if 2 members of the Drangons looked like B/Rs human forms and then get thrown out of the gang. Just as a slaute to the older fans, We don't have to see them again just 2 guys who look like them.
Or maybe have one of the Ultoms named Krang, Don't have him do anything just through the name out

Mondo_Gecko · 12-06-2002, 02:03 PM

That would be cool but then i'd want a mutatation episode with Bebop & Rocksteady.

12-05-2002, 01:02 PM	#45
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	There's plenty of humour in the Mirage continuity. You can probably find some good ones too. Ummm let me think issue #15, the new series has a lot...etc. I'm just saying that the page you had was one of the more particularly bizarre, guest writers. For the record I hope there's humour in the new toon as well, but more subtle humour. I'm calm now, I just don't like it when I think people mince my words is all . __________________

12-05-2002, 12:54 PM	#41
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	And plus, everyone is posting within seconds of each other so we don't see what you say if you finish a post before someone, sheesh. Just take it easy buddy...

12-05-2002, 12:58 PM	#42
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah all liked the show as kids. But what annoys me, is that some people are still saying that the new show can't beat the old one. Im sure it can. There is nothing really special about the old cartoon, except maybe the first season. I still find it very good.

12-05-2002, 01:00 PM	#44
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Issue trough 38-41. Thos are bad. They are a parody of TMNT and definetly the worst part of Mirage series.

12-05-2002, 01:03 PM	#46
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	Well I still love the Old Show, It will always be my fav. But the Leech Mutant story in Mirage is one of the coolest i've ever read.

12-05-2002, 01:06 PM	#48
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	It is impossible to compare the 2 series...2 completely different times, things werent as expensive either so you can't count money rake-ins, and you also can't go back in time to see how you enjoyed it and compare it now, plus at different ages you react to enjoyment differently as well....so you see it is pretty much literally impossible to compare... The only thing that can be said is that without the first one, there would be no second!

12-05-2002, 01:51 PM	#50
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Your acting as if you already saw the new series and it was the best thing you ever saw....

12-05-2002, 02:06 PM	#51
Anarchistguy Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada (This country is too peaceful, Something's up...) Posts: 2,137	it's just that I'm all worked up about the new cartoon

12-05-2002, 02:51 PM	#52
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah we really can't know yet. On paper it sounds almost perfect, but we need to see an episode before we can say anyhting for sure..

12-05-2002, 03:44 PM	#53
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	So the old show wasn't great, for most of us its a chace to suspend maturity for 20 min and just be a kid again, I admit ti wasn't great but it had itrs moments, like the last season OK not great by most standards but cool if you look at it as a whole a breath of freash air with a new look. Comparison between the New and old shows is innevitable but its to soon, wait till we get some hard fact, or at the least opinions from fans who have some how seen it. So the people working on it say its great, what do you expect them to say, its crap, no they want us to watch so they will say its good, till we have real hard proof we don't know what the finished product of the show will be like. Yes the show should be based on the Mirage comic, well technicly so was the old cartoon and everything else turtle. The show will be a compomis of all those involved, and have to bow down to the restrictions of the network. And not to mention they still have to worry about Parents getting up in arms about the least little thing so expect it to be a little silly at times. Its still doing to be directed at kids to a degree, if it wasn't it wouldn't be on, on Saturday morning. OK so it won't be like the old cartoon, thats not to say it won't be like it at times, perhaps not ententionaly but it may be simply due to the restriction laid down. And you never know they may do like MOTU and do little tributes to the old show, nothing big maybe a little word here or there as a show of respcet to the fan who came on that why. Look its a few months till we see the show and their no point in arguing over what it will bw like till we know more

12-05-2002, 04:03 PM	#55
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	YES TMNT old cartoon ROCKED AND IT WILL ALWAYS ROCK!!!!

12-06-2002, 11:51 AM	#56
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	Bleah.... Geez guys, can we like perhaps "hold the phone" and "take a couple chill pills"... or does the phrase "go sucka lemon mean anything to yah"? And then acept this one thing: Change is gooooood. Just cause the Turtles aren't eating pizza 24 hours / 7 dyas a weeks doesn't mean they'll go out and have a pizza night one weekend. And I'll betcha that these Purple Dragon gang characters will be just as charming as Krang, RockSteady, and Bebop. So can we PLEEEEASE tone it down a bit.. before I have to get busy witht he edit functions in here. Sankyuuuuu!

12-06-2002, 12:12 PM	#57
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	The fact is that if you watched the whole old series now, you would orobably find that it is made for kids, not for older people. Altough there are somethings that were good in the old series, There's no point to recreate it. And it won't ever happen so if you want Rocksteady and Bebop, start writing fanfics.

12-06-2002, 01:08 PM	#58
Raphael-sama Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cah-nah-dah Posts: 155	This new cartoon is made for kids. It's made to get kids' arses into chairs and watch, and then to get them to run to mommy and daddy to beg for toys about the show they just watched. That's how it's ALWAYS BEEN. For EVERY CARTOON IN HISTORY THAT HAS A TOYLINE TO GO WITH IT. I don't CARE if Laird is personally involved in the project, I don't CARE if they're catering more toward the old Mirage crowd, it is STILL A CHILD'S CARTOON, MADE TO MAKE MONEY. Done. -Badabing.

12-06-2002, 01:49 PM	#59
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	It would be cool if 2 members of the Drangons looked like B/Rs human forms and then get thrown out of the gang. Just as a slaute to the older fans, We don't have to see them again just 2 guys who look like them. Or maybe have one of the Ultoms named Krang, Don't have him do anything just through the name out

12-06-2002, 02:03 PM	#60
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	That would be cool but then i'd want a mutatation episode with Bebop & Rocksteady.