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09-07-2005, 08:33 PM
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Rat-faced Dude-guy
 
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You aren't alone...I haven't either....
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09-07-2005, 10:04 PM
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Mad Scientist
 
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Terrible as always but as always I'm still excited just because it's tmnt. I swear that if this was any other line I would NOT have sustained it past wave 2 (which is pretty much what ALL of the casual collectors have done, the ones that wouldn't care too much about TMNT normally but still like it).
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09-08-2005, 03:23 AM
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Foot Soldier
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What's wrong with the new figures??i like'em!design,color.....and there aint much wrong with the articulation either(well...mostly)The only thing that i think is wrong with the line is there isnt enough of the other characters besides the turtles....but thats geting better!I'm just a little amazed with some fans here giving this toy line a hard time.
Im just (really)happy these toys are made!And if they did truly suck as some say....why buy?...or even bother??(we can all still be friends right?) |
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09-08-2005, 01:46 PM
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Rat-faced Dude-guy
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We just feel that other toy companies have evolved, changed with the times. Playmates seems to have stayed the same, and that's not gonna cut it in a day where people expect so much outta action figures in skulpt and articulation.
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09-08-2005, 02:54 PM
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Foot Soldier
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yeah...the point about others evolving is a good one,at the same time i think they (most of them)look cool.One thing thats better is they dont have all that "junk" on them anymore. They arnt perfect.....but that purple dragon looks so nice!!
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09-08-2005, 02:57 PM
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Rat-faced Dude-guy
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I'll agree...They look very nice, I just wish playmates would take it one step further and wow us with some awesome articulation to.
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09-08-2005, 06:38 PM
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hmm Rat King looks a bit.. I dunno.. I guess he is some kinda mutant now, with the 3-fingered hands and all... The Purple Dragon... oh man, they shoulda used Dragon Face, cause c'mon man, the guy they used is the one that died in the first episode.
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09-08-2005, 06:52 PM
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Thug
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I rememebr back in the late 90's Playmates were really starting to tone down on articulation.
I collected their Star Trek toys for many year, which went from having standard articulation in the beginning, to having very good articulation (Voyager line) to all of a sudden cutting most articulation!!! We lost the knee joints, elbow joints, cuts at the top of the legs & arms....all gone... I don't know why they did this. At the time they told us that the could only get more accurate sculpts if they limited the articulation....ofcourse we all knew that was BS.... I'm not sure if Playmates will take on wider movement in the figures again....I guess we can hope so.
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09-08-2005, 07:37 PM
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These figures suck because
a) The sculpts are pretty terrible save a few b) The articulation sucks c) the paints application is horrible d) they don't even have many accessories anymore Actually I think this line devolved. The older figures were more fun. You had a ton more accessories in the old line, better articulation for toys 15 years younger, and better paint applications. There are exceptions for the new line, some figures that stand out are the regular turtles, nano bot, that purple dragon there, but the rest are questionable. I'm actually glad we've gotten what we have, it was fun to have child like toys again which are SOMEWHAT toon accurate, but it's definitely time for a change. These aren't even the best toon accurate toys anymore, JLU is much better in that regard. If you don't see what I'm trying to say, here's an example:     Granted these aren't the best comparisons, but just see the difference. Nobody might possible be the most ugly figure ever. Chunky is all I can think of to describe it, whereas in the cartoon they all seem slender. This toy line is not very cartoon accurate and is not articulated or have any gimmicks or accessories or even detail, all it has going for it is a name. The turtle name. I could sculpt better than almost any figure they've released so far. |
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09-08-2005, 10:39 PM
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Do yourselves a favor and buy this instead of that Gamera Don
 I have it. It probly still has more articulation then these things.... |
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09-09-2005, 08:35 AM
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You cannot compare Marvel Legends with TMNT toys. Toy Biz knows mainly adult collectors and older fans buy them. They're comic legends and have finally received the toys deserved. As for TMNT, they're geared toward kids, but Playmates should also keep us older fans in mind. I'm really happy they're giving us a good Baxter, even though his Spider-bot is overdue, but we're still gettin' it.
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TMNT are Cool. I anticipate buying the next toy(I hope) and watching the next episode. Will a company please give the Proper DVD release to the current and classic Turtles cartoons? Playmates Toys: Shape Up, OR feast on my large,lumpy,hairy MOLE, then Back Off! |
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09-09-2005, 08:39 AM
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Thug
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Im sick of it. All you people ever do is complain. You should be happy that we get anything at all. The figures have not been that bad. Forever people were whining about a show acurate baxter, and now that you are getting one what do you do. You complain, just like with the show and the comics and the other figures. I can't wait to hear the bad mouthing that goes on when the new movie comes out. You don't like it fine. But enough is enough, If it's so terrible go visit a Yu Gi OH website instead. I'm gonna get flamed and badmouthed for this. but I don't care anymore. I'm embarrased to be called a fan if it lumps me in with the ungrateful people who use this board.
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09-09-2005, 09:31 AM
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Foot Soldier
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Utromx.....Im with you!!!
good to see more true fans around here! |
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09-09-2005, 02:23 PM
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Oh I didn't know true fans were the ones that accepted all the crap, well you have fun with the crap you true fans you.
Me, I guess I'm an untrue fan who expects quality and will not eat **** and pretend it's steak. The truth is, you can compare marvel legends with tmnt? Why you may ask, oh I know it's because Marvel sells to kids as well and it actually isn't the collectors keeping it afloat. You gasp in horror by the shocking relevation that TMNT toys don't have to suck. Whenever someone says something like that it always just means they can't come up with a defense for the arguement. Well these toys don't suck, YOU'RE NOT A TRUE FAN YOU DON'T BUY EVERYTHING. Grow up, give a good explanation on your feelings and then let me know why TMNT figures don't suck. Until then I can consider myself a true fan and not buy TMNT toys. |
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09-09-2005, 02:34 PM
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Foot Soldier
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Moron??...hehe ok.i see your point too!really....
about the true fan-bit...just a joke,not aimed at anyone My point is i love the toys,but i collect other toylines of different styles so i know they could be better the tmnt figures arn't perfect but i think these new (prototype)figures are alot better then some of the earlier ones....thats all.....don't hate me...... 
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09-09-2005, 02:38 PM
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Think about it. The first DVDs had extras, nice menus, and scene selection. Funi just slacks off and now we get none of that. We get ****** menus, no extras, and no scene selection. Their even to god damn lazy to make the intro a scene so we can skip it. They did it on ONE DVD and then after that they went back to the old way. It pissed me off and I'm sick of it. I'm the one out there paying 12 bucks for the DVD and 6 bucks for the toy. I want my moneys worth. I don't want some half ass'd trash I would expect out of bootlegs. To be honest the new games suck too. They did nothing. The GBA games are fine but the console ones are stupid. Battle Nexus was alright atleast they made new cut scenes for it but that still didn't help me like it anymore. I want more in a game and they failed to deliver. Recycled ideas from 10 years ago don't cut with with me. So don't tell me I'm not a true fan. A true fan wouldn not sit back and let his favorite thing be destroyed like this. It's a disgrace and you know. |
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09-09-2005, 03:41 PM
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And as far as the toys go, I love em...sure they are not super articulated like Legends, but IMO, I think articualtion to that degree is bit overrated...i mean sure you can pose some of those guys in every imagainable pose, but thats not what the TMNT toyline is about...it's strictly about play value... playmates is aiming this line at the kids, not collectors...sure they might throw us a bone every now and again, but the sheer utter lack of truly "collectible" merchandising shows their true heart...but you know what? I'm FINE with it... most of us started collecting when we were kids.... I don't recall any sophiscticated articulation...in fact look at the old '88 Shredder fig...one pose and an outfit that they just came up with...but still, I love the figure...why? Not cuz it's 99% toon accurate, or has 52 points of articualtion, or has the best paint appliaction...but because of the sheer joy I get (got as a kid) when holding a TMNT figure that i just saw portrayed in the cartoon/comic....i think to truly appreciate these toys, and any toys really, you have to have imagination..an imagination to take you somewhere else with these toys and enjoy them for what they are: TOYS, not "collectibles". I just got back from vacation, and the 1st thing I did was go to the ninjaturtles.com..when I saw all the upcoming pics, I was so excited just to have these figs..i mean, Quarry, Rat King, Bishop..even a Purple Dragon!! But I KNEW, i just KNEW, that when i came here to the tech., I would see so much trash talking.... Again, thats your perogative to talk as much filth as some of you do about any and all of the new waves...after all, these are discussion boards so go right ahead...but I'll tell you what, if I was a PLaymates exec. who came to this site to see what the "fans" are saying about the line, I would walk away saying "Well, the 'fans' and 'collectors' out there have pretty much given up on us. They think we're idiots and except for the random person every now and again, they all think we're producing buckets full of sh**. The kids out there love the figures though, cuz they keep buying them making us a fortune. So let's just forget about those 'fans" and keep doing what we're doing: makin' toys aimed at kids." Again, this is just my opinion so take it as you will...this was not aimed at anyone in particular, but just to the general feeling i get when I've read these threads over the last couple of yrs...  EDIT: Oh, and this whole "True Fan" crap...there's no such thing, we all like tmnt to different degrees, for different reasons...the one thing we do all have in common is a general enjoyment of the tmnt (again, in different medium(s) for different reasons)
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09-09-2005, 05:07 PM
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well put. ok ecto and spitfire, I never said word one about being a true fan and having to buy everything. my complaint is that all I seem to be hearing is constant badmouthing about the state of everything tmnt. read the letters in vol 4. read the reviews of alot of the episodes. the games , whatever. there just seems to be more condeming than praise. so i post the question would you rather have no dvd's or toys or anything else. or are you at least happy that there is something being made right now. I dont read here often but when I do it's usually bad unless its in the fan works section . there are things in the tmnt universe i cant stand, like the garbage man and i personally think that the next mutation stinks like a sack full of buttholes. I'm not trying to start a fight.and didnt intend to shake your little world.
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09-09-2005, 05:28 PM
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I dunno what happened to this line. It was great when it first started. Take a look at April, Casey and Hun. FLAWLESS translations from the series to plastic. Now? Not so much. Is it just me, or does Playmates seem to have some kinda beef with regular eyeglasses? Bishop and Baxter do not need sunglasses to look cool. One is wearing a black business suit, and the other has a ****ing robot body. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And the Rat King? Lame, lame, lame.
Lame.
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09-09-2005, 06:45 PM
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lmao I keep seeing 'the Purple Dragon is awesome' and 'the Purple Dragon is cool'. Guys, the guy died in the first episode. Geez. They shoulda at least made Dragon Face instead. Might as well make a figure out of the guy that runs around with Nano, or the homeless guy that has alot of theories from the 'Garbageman' episode too.
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