Favorite Musical Performer?? - Page 3

FreshRazz · 12-20-2002, 12:45 AM

I'll say it again Tupac is a legend.
*plays when thugs cry*
Yeah he's the bomb!
The reson why allot of ppl show hate towards eminem is because nearly all of his songs are about killing his mummy, stepson, ****, moby or he raps about stupid issues. No one can get a good feeling if all he raps about is killing ppl and ****ing cristina agulara the only decent song by him is 'loose your self' thats because he doesn't talk about him self in the song (to a certian aspect) and not about killing his mum. the same he is the oppisite to tupac...

tupac : acts black and loves to act black and was so proud to be black
eminem: delusioned about being black, and a rumor going around he got punched in his face cause he said what up *****!

tupac: loved his mum supports his mum even though her addiction forced him out of home
eminem: has serious issuse about his mum, although it's not proven that she did half the **** or why he has a major prob, em's bro seems to be chill with her

tupac: battle raps about ppl who shot him
eminem: battle raps to make him self feel good

tupac: makes u feel good and has loads of meaning
eminem: just messed up has allmost no meaning

tupac: honust rapper, who has lived though all the hard times
eminem: love to listen to his ******** lies

tupac: supports childhood friends and ppl struggling, and brought many ppl to the game and supported charrity
eminem: sadly couldn't care less, and is loosing his bond with D12 and is hardly helping his bro with the record label deal.

- btw i'm exreamly sorry if i offended u, i don't ask for war im just saying that eminem is the complete opisite with tupac, even though he idoles him. and it's sad to here rappers going pop and final note IM HAPPY TO SEE LL COO J BAK!

*heretic888* · 12-20-2002, 09:39 AM

regardless of that meaningless comparison you just did, eminem is still a creative genius in hip hop in the same level as tupac.

*heretic888* · 12-20-2002, 10:47 PM

bump.

FreshRazz · 12-21-2002, 12:40 AM

Tupac = Greatest Rapper of all time....
Eminem = Confused little boy

that's a comparison, besides the comparison was to show the irony that Eminem favourite rapper was Pac and it's just really wired how in so many ways he is different. And to call him a creative ginues would be a little too much because i could call a murder who worte how he wants to kill his wife in full detail creative. Wiich is pretty much what he has done, and rhymeing with me is easy but when all u say is me ain't creative.

*heretic888* · 12-21-2002, 11:03 AM

once again, regardless of that childish narrow-minded comparison eminem is one of the most creative artistic greats hip hop as a genre has ever produced, as is tupac. you seem to think these people's personal lives and past experiences (or lyrical content) actually has anything to do with their value as artists. it does not. these ethical judgments concerning art are worthless.

FreshRazz · 12-21-2002, 10:43 PM

1) I'm not asking for a fight
2) I'm just expresing an opion
3) I don't truly hate eminem
4) My only reason to compare is to show how bizzare it is that Eminem admires Tupac yet he is in so many ways oppisite.
5) I just dislike Eminem a little just beacuse he is allways dribbling shiot about killing people.
6) I'm just woundering what Eminem's values are he only seems to act all hard core all the time.

*heretic888* · 12-21-2002, 11:17 PM

1) neither am I
2) good for you
3) see number 2
4) its not so bizarre considering eminem admires tupac for his skills as a MUSICIAN.
5) like Mr Mathers had said, don't take what he says so seriously
6) see number 5

Peanut · 12-21-2002, 11:54 PM

It's times like this when I quote the old Curt Henning and The Texas Red Necks song. "Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap is crap!!"

*heretic888* · 12-22-2002, 12:44 AM

rap is no more 'crap' than any other musical genre. what it really boils down to is the band/individual, and not the genre or style.

MzTheInsomniac · 12-22-2002, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Michaelangelo

It's times like this when I quote the old Curt Henning and The Texas Red Necks song. "Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap is crap!!"

i gotta agree RAP is crap, these idiots dont derserve to be rich, all tehy do is talk fast and have no musical talent, why are they rich they have done nothing to acheive fame

*heretic888* · 12-22-2002, 11:10 AM

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i gotta agree RAP is crap, these idiots dont derserve to be rich, all tehy do is talk fast and have no musical talent, why are they rich they have done nothing to acheive fame

I hate to break this to you, child, but just because YOU don't appreciate and/or understand a certain artist does not mean they are inherently 'crap'. Once again, it ultimately depends on the individual artist/band.. NOT the genre or style.

Oh, by the way, if you think they are so 'talentless' i would like to see YOU take a crack at hip-hop......

**Nturtle** · 12-22-2002, 05:29 PM

Okay Hetetic, I have noticed you have been condesending often to other people on this forum, mainly when all they do is disagree with you. Cut it out please, thank you.

*heretic888* · 12-22-2002, 10:42 PM

i am condescending to others when they carry themselves in a condescending (ie childish and immature) fashion. i am but a mirror.

FreshRazz · 12-23-2002, 02:56 AM

Well all I can say is that no musical forum is crap it's to the eyes of the beholder and if you screem on gener of music is crap you are most likly to recvie the same view back, pleas have respect for other peoples opions, sure eminem buggs me but i ain't gonna cry about it for hours and hours on end, so as the old saying goes if can't say nothing nice don't say nothing!

~~Reznorite420~~ · 12-23-2002, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Turtle X

ok, whos ur favorite MP, I love rap and pop, so Mine are Nelly and Justin Timberlake.

Only my better judgement is keeping me from beating you in with a sledgehammer right now...

The title of this thread Favorite MUSICAL Performer, but the stuff you listed is quite frankly nowhere remotely NEAR music IMO...

Anyway, there's been a thread on this before, but I'll go ahead and list some of my favorite groups/artists in no particular order:

Nine Inch Nails (hence my username)
Metallica (older)
KMFDM
Korn
Orgy
New Order
Depeche Mode
Disturbed
Ministry
Skinny Puppy
2 Unlimited (ok, so maybe that is a little dancy, but I like it)
Alice In Chains
Tool
Eiffel 65
Godsmack
Gravity Kills
Judas Priest
Kid Rock
Megadeth
Pantera
Static X
And for comedic purposes, Weird Al Yankovic

Other stuff that I have no specific artist is:
80s
Classic 70s rock
Hard rock (but not hardCORE, like GWAR)

~~Reznorite420~~ · 12-23-2002, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by heretic888

regardless of that meaningless comparison you just did, eminem is still a creative genius

Creative, maybe. But GENIUS?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOL x 40000000000000

That was friggin' great, man! Please, tell me another one! I need another good laugh!

MzTheInsomniac · 12-23-2002, 09:13 AM

it was just an opinion heretic whats your problem?

~~Reznorite420~~ · 12-23-2002, 09:25 AM

Oh, my previous list was just of popular music. I still need to include:

Hans Zimmer (especially what he did for Gladiator)
John Carpenter
Jerry Goldsmith (most known for his Star Trek stuff)
John Williams (mainly Star Wars)

And I'll admit that I like Dan Hartman too, which explains why "(That's Your) Conciousness" is my favorite track on the TMNT soundtrack.

MzTheInsomniac · 12-23-2002, 12:48 PM

nice list of bands there rez

*heretic888* · 12-24-2002, 10:01 AM

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Well all I can say is that no musical forum is crap

This I agree with. All forms of music have a time and place.

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it's to the eyes of the beholder

This I do NOT agree with. Art is most certainly not relative.

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if you screem on gener of music is crap you are most likly to recvie the same view back

Very true.

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pleas have respect for other peoples opions

Errr.... no offense, but just because you respect someone else's opinion doesn't mean you can't disagree with them......

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sure eminem buggs me but i ain't gonna cry about it for hours and hours on end

Good.

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so as the old saying goes if can't say nothing nice don't say nothing!

Truth supercedes political correctness, my friend.

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but the stuff you listed is quite frankly nowhere remotely NEAR music IMO

Its just as much music as what you listen to. I will grant you it is not on the same LEVEL of depth and expression as the bands you listed but it is still its own form of art.....

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Creative, maybe. But GENIUS?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOL x 40000000000000

That was friggin' great, man! Please, tell me another one! I need another good laugh!

A mind that is closed is such a horrible waste.......

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it was just an opinion heretic whats your problem?

One that I happen to disagree with. Welcome to the real world, child.

12-20-2002, 12:45 AM	#41
FreshRazz Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Local Sewer System Posts: 261	I'll say it again Tupac is a legend. plays when thugs cry Yeah he's the bomb! The reson why allot of ppl show hate towards eminem is because nearly all of his songs are about killing his mummy, stepson, **, moby or he raps about stupid issues. No one can get a good feeling if all he raps about is killing ppl and ing cristina agulara the only decent song by him is 'loose your self' thats because he doesn't talk about him self in the song (to a certian aspect) and not about killing his mum. the same he is the oppisite to tupac... tupac : acts black and loves to act black and was so proud to be black eminem: delusioned about being black, and a rumor going around he got punched in his face cause he said what up *! tupac: loved his mum supports his mum even though her addiction forced him out of home eminem: has serious issuse about his mum, although it's not proven that she did half the or why he has a major prob, em's bro seems to be chill with her tupac: battle raps about ppl who shot him eminem: battle raps to make him self feel good tupac: makes u feel good and has loads of meaning eminem: just messed up has allmost no meaning tupac: honust rapper, who has lived though all the hard times eminem: love to listen to his ****** lies tupac: supports childhood friends and ppl struggling, and brought many ppl to the game and supported charrity eminem: sadly couldn't care less, and is loosing his bond with D12 and is hardly helping his bro with the record label deal. - btw i'm exreamly sorry if i offended u, i don't ask for war im just saying that eminem is the complete opisite with tupac, even though he idoles him. and it's sad to here rappers going pop and final note IM HAPPY TO SEE LL COO J BAK! __________________ This is My Pal Shredder

12-20-2002, 09:39 AM	#42
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ahem regardless of that meaningless comparison you just did, eminem is still a creative genius in hip hop in the same level as tupac. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

12-20-2002, 10:47 PM	#43
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hmmm bump. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

12-21-2002, 12:40 AM	#44
FreshRazz Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Local Sewer System Posts: 261	Tupac = Greatest Rapper of all time.... Eminem = Confused little boy that's a comparison, besides the comparison was to show the irony that Eminem favourite rapper was Pac and it's just really wired how in so many ways he is different. And to call him a creative ginues would be a little too much because i could call a murder who worte how he wants to kill his wife in full detail creative. Wiich is pretty much what he has done, and rhymeing with me is easy but when all u say is me ain't creative. __________________ This is My Pal Shredder

12-21-2002, 11:03 AM	#45
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ahem once again, regardless of that childish narrow-minded comparison eminem is one of the most creative artistic greats hip hop as a genre has ever produced, as is tupac. you seem to think these people's personal lives and past experiences (or lyrical content) actually has anything to do with their value as artists. it does not. these ethical judgments concerning art are worthless. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

12-21-2002, 10:43 PM	#46
FreshRazz Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Local Sewer System Posts: 261	1) I'm not asking for a fight 2) I'm just expresing an opion 3) I don't truly hate eminem 4) My only reason to compare is to show how bizzare it is that Eminem admires Tupac yet he is in so many ways oppisite. 5) I just dislike Eminem a little just beacuse he is allways dribbling shiot about killing people. 6) I'm just woundering what Eminem's values are he only seems to act all hard core all the time. __________________ This is My Pal Shredder

12-21-2002, 11:17 PM	#47
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ahem 1) neither am I 2) good for you 3) see number 2 4) its not so bizarre considering eminem admires tupac for his skills as a MUSICIAN. 5) like Mr Mathers had said, don't take what he says so seriously 6) see number 5 __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

12-21-2002, 11:54 PM	#48
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	It's times like this when I quote the old Curt Henning and The Texas Red Necks song. "Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap is crap!!"

12-22-2002, 12:44 AM	#49
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ugh rap is no more 'crap' than any other musical genre. what it really boils down to is the band/individual, and not the genre or style. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

12-22-2002, 05:29 PM	#52
Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	Okay Hetetic, I have noticed you have been condesending often to other people on this forum, mainly when all they do is disagree with you. Cut it out please, thank you. __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

12-22-2002, 10:42 PM	#53
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ahem i am condescending to others when they carry themselves in a condescending (ie childish and immature) fashion. i am but a mirror. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

12-23-2002, 02:56 AM	#54
FreshRazz Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Local Sewer System Posts: 261	Well all I can say is that no musical forum is crap it's to the eyes of the beholder and if you screem on gener of music is crap you are most likly to recvie the same view back, pleas have respect for other peoples opions, sure eminem buggs me but i ain't gonna cry about it for hours and hours on end, so as the old saying goes if can't say nothing nice don't say nothing! __________________ This is My Pal Shredder

12-23-2002, 09:13 AM	#57
MzTheInsomniac Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Daaaaaaayton O hi O Posts: 680	it was just an opinion heretic whats your problem? __________________ www.wheeljack.com BEETCH GO THERE!!!!

12-23-2002, 09:25 AM	#58
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	Oh, my previous list was just of popular music. I still need to include: Hans Zimmer (especially what he did for Gladiator) John Carpenter Jerry Goldsmith (most known for his Star Trek stuff) John Williams (mainly Star Wars) And I'll admit that I like Dan Hartman too, which explains why "(That's Your) Conciousness" is my favorite track on the TMNT soundtrack.

12-23-2002, 12:48 PM	#59
MzTheInsomniac Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Daaaaaaayton O hi O Posts: 680	nice list of bands there rez __________________ www.wheeljack.com BEETCH GO THERE!!!!