OFFICIAL NEW EPISODE DISCUSSION: "Clash of the Turtle Titans"

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by iris

Yikes. I'm outraged on Mike's behalf.

Biggles ... #@%#?!!

Yep... by 2105 Turtle Titan is Batman. He has his own signal and Biggles is a really annoying robot Comisioner Gordon.

[iris]

*sigh* Poor Mikey. No junk food, and now someone has stolen his character. Maybe they'll be friends. Or maybe... well, Mike is a ninja...

Originally Posted by gobo

Don't get my hopes up like that.

bwahahahahaha...!!

[Jo Dawn]

That is hilarious, yes? I loved it. Read it a few days or so ago, but it made me laugh.

[Jo Dawn]

*yawwwns*

What a waste of time. Pure fluff, no actual real story or real need for this episode.

Honestly, I was more worried about Biggles falling from the building than I have yet about any of the others. I like Biggles and Sterling... They're like actual ADULTS! Which is what this show needs more of; Grown up-like types that actually make sense. Since, obviously, even Splinter isn't in that role anymore.

I'm not sure why no one likes Biggles or Sterling; they are the big truth tellers in the series! And not awful childish fluffy exagerated characterizations that everyone else is now. Ugh. Who needs that kiddish crap.

Well, I gave it a chance. It sucked. I wasted a half hour of my life. Didn't smile once, nothing was funny. Mike was especially annoying. The new TT had it right. If that's how he's gonna be, I want no part of it.

[iris]

Haha... well, yeah Mike was a total juvenile jerk for half the episode. The jealousy monster strikes! It was in character though (or rather, in line with 2K3 Mike).

I thought it was a great ep. I laughed a lot.

Triple Threat was an "amusing" supervillain.

[johnnyblaze]

i liked the point in the bank when triple threat goes silent for a second so they could look at the comic book to see what to do next

[TMNT]

The episode began back in 2K3. I was happy to see Hun and The Shredder again. The animation was great...just like the good old days. Then Fast Forward Mikey appears and takes me right out. This episode was filler, the next episode seems like a filler. This whole series seems like a filler. The Triple Head monster isn't a good villian. The last episode seemed like it would take Fast Forward somewhere but once again, one episode (or in FF's case, about 5-6 episodes have ruined this show's "potential"...haha i just read that...potential is too good of a word to waste on FF). The only reason I'm sticking with FF is because it is the Turtle universe. It's better than nothing. My head hurts.

[Sage Ninja]

I didn't see this episode. How was Mikey a jerk in this episode? Is this one of those painful episodes where Mikey acts like an ass and gets a big dose of karma for it by episodes end?

[Jon]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

I didn't see this episode. How was Mikey a jerk in this episode? Is this one of those painful episodes where Mikey acts like an ass and gets a big dose of karma for it by episodes end?

In a manner. After finding out of another superhero going around as "Turtle Titan" he confronts the guy on it. Which leads to some irritation from this Turtle Titan when Mikey goes around as Turtle Titan (thinking Mikey's copying him - as-such the two get off on bad terms).
After a while (and a couple encounters with Triple Threat -- who, having stolen a comic from a museum, gets the idea to be a "super villain", as they "get to break stuff and steal"), they get on good terms.

[TerranigmaFreak]

Stupid fun episode. I like how they parodied American comics in this episode though. Even though the original TMNT comic was SUPPOSE to parody comics, it actually got too serious for it's own good. Still all the the "super hero" eps sucked whether it was 2K3 or FF.

[Aska_Badoura]

That was fun! I always had a soft spot for superheroes, though. Nice bits of continuity, and I really enjoyed TT's ties with Silver Sentry. But I was kinda "huh" when he said that nobody knew TT's real name but SS... and the obvious answer is "nobody knew who Turtle Titan was, either...", but obviously he needed to know some other bit of info no one else did to identify himself, now that Turtle Titan was relatively well-known.

I really enjoyed the recap from Mike's POV (they used some of the backgrounds from their first battle with the Foot ), though I noticed the designs barely changed (didn't match the FF style as well); wasn't worth redesigning them just for a flashback, I guess.

That's comedy genius (not "gold")! But, you and Aska would probably call it perverse.

*baps* :p Perverse, as in funny, silly, something somebody did just to say "We wanted to be completely contrary to what we've established before just for the silliness of it". Didn't say I didn't find it funny. I appreciate perverse humor. :p (Yeah, that does remind me that I have to PM you back... darn procrastination )

I'm not sure why no one likes Biggles or Sterling; they are the big truth tellers in the series! And not awful childish fluffy exagerated characterizations that everyone else is now.

I seem to recall you protesting them loudly when they first appeared. :p But yeah, Biggles is growing on me, now that he's getting some characterization. I liked Serling from the beginning.

Didn't smile once, nothing was funny.

I must be very easily amused. I'm often giggling throughout.

[Katie]

Mikey looked like a jerk in this episode. He deserved to look like a jerk. But I still wonder what that new turtle titan really expected from a teenager, anyway? I would not have been shocked at the juvinile behavior.

[X]

I thought the episode was good.

I'm mainly glad they didn't forget a lot of things about the 2k3 series, and can still tell stories around aspects of 2k3.

I was going to jump on here and tell everyone to start complaining (as if I needed to though ,) since all four Turtles said, "it's ninja time at once." OH NOES, THEY SAID THE PHRASE 4 TIMES IN ONE EPISODE, WITHIN 3 SECONDS!!! I had to go buy some new videogames though...

I did laugh in the episode, it was pretty funny. I used to want a mix of the old school toon and the new one, and I think FF is hitting that pretty well with some decent comedy (some still falls flat like most comedy in the 2k3 series has,) and some good action. BRING ON MORE FILLERS!!!

-X-

[Jo Dawn]

Originally Posted by Aska_Badoura

I seem to recall you protesting them loudly when they first appeared. :p But yeah, Biggles is growing on me, now that he's getting some characterization. I liked Serling from the beginning.

Hehe, I don't recall how much I protested them, but I don't doubt that I did! Well, seeing as how they amuse me alot more than the turtles do alot of the times at this point, I just... I dunno. I think it's because THEY don't the like the TMNT being there that makes me like them even more! The TMNT are OOC alot of the times, acting more childish than their age, and than they'd ever acted in the 2K3 series. I can't stand that.

Even though the original TMNT comic was SUPPOSE to parody comics, it actually got too serious for it's own good.

Howso? That boggles my mind. It's supposed to be more on the serious side, which is what makes it actually GOOD.

Remember, it's the original, and therefore the standard starting point to all other things turtles. I think the cartoons and movies are too kiddish for THEIR own good; this new series as the case in point.

Besides, things can be a parody, and still serious and not stupid kid stuff.

I'm mainly glad they didn't forget a lot of things about the 2k3 series, and can still tell stories around aspects of 2k3.

I'm actually sorry they brought something as good as 2K3 into this drivel.

I used to want a mix of the old school toon and the new one, and I think FF is hitting that pretty well

Not to argue with you... really, this is just my opinion... but that's why I think it sucks.


And also for the episode, I saw Mike as attacking the new TT as a bit much. Anyone else think it was a tad too juvenile, even for Mike?

I think Mike has so much potential other than the 'baby brother' 'youngest, silly acting' one. I hate how they don't explore any of that, and make him (and each of them, really) a caricature of their personalities. (Though Mikey is the worst).

[ZariusTwo]

The old series knew it was a cartoon even during it's "darker" episodes (seasons one-three and seven-ten were more action/comedy than comedy), and that's why it can't be faulted for anything it does.

Fast Forward knows it's supposed to be something else that it's past few seaons have represented, but can't live up to the previous standard and tries to depend on the humour of the new series, and that's why it sucks. The humour in the new series has never been the show's strong point.

[Jo Dawn]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The old series knew it was a cartoon even during it's "darker" episodes (seasons one-three and seven-ten were more action/comedy than comedy), and that's why it can't be faulted for anything it does.

Well, I agree with you to a point. Yes, it knew it was only a cartoon, but cartoons aren't just fluff crap. They can be darker and less for kids (multiple shows of that time can be an example). But you know that.

ANYhow... well, it can't be faulted by you... because you really liked that type of thing. And I respect that. But, it can (and is) faulted by me for the same reasons.

As for 2Ks humor... it wasn't anything special, I liked the humor of the new series ok. It was alright.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

Howso? That boggles my mind. It's supposed to be more on the serious side, which is what makes it actually GOOD.

TMNT is in fact a spoof of Daredevil. The origin story on the official site even admits that it's a spoof. Daredevil's sensei is named Stick.

Originally Posted by Aska_Badoura

That was fun! I always had a soft spot for superheroes, though. Nice bits of continuity, and I really enjoyed TT's ties with Silver Sentry. But I was kinda "huh" when he said that nobody knew TT's real name but SS... and the obvious answer is "nobody knew who Turtle Titan was, either..."

Nobody knew who Turtle Titan was except for the people who read the Justice Force comics and Turtle Titan comics and....um..the fans...

This was a pretty good episode. Constable Biggles is getting more likeable and it's cool to see more descendents
of the TMNT's friends. I hope the new Turtle Titan shows up again. Im sure there'll be an action figure made of him since
he's the grandson of Silver Sentry.

Triple Threat is annoying. He's not a super villian but he tries. *lol*

What would be really cool tho is if they ever released a Turtle Titan comic series or even Justice Force. Funny that
they faught Galactus. Kinda just proves that they're Marvel heroes tho.

I wonder tho... is there a new Justice Force as well? Im sure it would be full of descendents of the originals. And in that
JF comic, why did the guy that Silver Sentry faught look so much like Jammerhead?

Im totally loving Serling's sarcasm when it comes to the turtles injuring themselves. *lmao*

Oh and the "No Shredder, no foot soldiers, no junk food" thing was a lie...this ep had all 3! Sure the junk food was fake...but still... And this ep also had a narration! So for all you wining that there's no narration anymore...there ya go.

BTW...TMNT FF will be on at 9am next week cuz of Yu Gi Oh being on at 11.

[J Legault]

This is so far, my favorite episode of Fast Forward.

I like how the traveling museum had parodies of other comic book titles. I think saw a glance of a Nobody Comic. And cool to see that Justice Force comic from season 2.

I laughed quite a bit when I was watching it earlier. I knew Mikey would get paranoid for someone to steal his superhero idea.

I didn't see epsiode 4, but from what I can tell on the Triple Threat charater. Those 3 heads don't seem to agree on anything when it comes to crime and distruction.

Anyways I liked this one a lot. Was anyone else surprised that they got away with saying the word Nazis? Which you don't hear too often in a Y7 rated cartoon.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by J Legault

Anyways I liked this one a lot. Was anyone else surprised that they got away with saying the word Nazis? Which you don't hear too often in a Y7 rated cartoon.

The Nazi bit was kinda an homage to the Archie comic series. The future turtles actually faught Hitler.

[Jo Dawn]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

TMNT is in fact a spoof of Daredevil. The origin story on the official site even admits that it's a spoof. Daredevil's sensei is named Stick.

Well, yes, I knew that. Of course TMNT was a spoof, (of more than just daredevil, also, I thought) I didn't argue that! Hehe... I was disagreeing with the statement 'too serious for it's own good'.