The Two Completly Different TMNT Worlds We Live In - Page 3

Donatello02 · 01-16-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by heretic888

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These universes are givin me a headache. I choose the cool one. Which one is that? Yes and no. THAT is the way of the ninjitsu. Yeah, I don't know what I'm talkin about now.

Your right, you really don't know what you're talking about. By the way, the proper spelling is ninjutsu.

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Mikey is the only one that Doesn't get Mutilated.

That's cuz Mikey kicks ass.

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By the way, I would just like to say for the record that I enjoy ALL the tmnt mediums, but some moreso than others. And the some that I enjoy moreso are the Mirage series, first movie, and Archie series.

Oh yeah, the Archie series (especially the later ones) are NOWHERE near as kiddified as the original poster portrayed. They are second only to the Mirage series in ass kickiness.

Well aren't we Mr. Smartass?

*heretic888* · 01-16-2003, 06:59 PM

damn straight.

beaker · 01-16-2003, 07:27 PM

My gosh, I booted up the TMNT arcade rom last night for the first time in ages, and fell in love with that era all over again. That TMNT theme song...yes Ive bashed the cartoon, but lets face it: Without the cartoon the TMNT property wouldnt have gone anywhere. No dark and edgy TMNT movie, no NEW cartoon, etc. I lost interest in the TMNT cartoon after awhile, but season one was gold. Im not going to history revision and say the cartoon was crap. For the time, as others have said, memories of that cartoon are very good. The whole 1989 era, between the video games, movie, toys, cartoon etc was great. Then by 1990 it seemed to all unravel like everything else in life did.

There is no denying that the original TMNT is the mid to late 80's series.
However, its safe to say most of us got into TMNT through the cartoon in the late 80's...and *hopefully* also discovered the great 80's series. As it stands the only thing that truly bugs the crap out of me is the Archie series, period. That just should even had been made.

But man, hearing that TMNT cartoon theme song just brought back so much good memories...turtle power indeed.

Mondo_Gecko · 01-16-2003, 07:44 PM

THANK YOU!!! THE TMNT cartoon was very good and it rocked. The Turtles, Splinter, April, Shrdder, Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady, The Frogs, Mondo Gecko. All good things Ahh the golden memories of Childhood.

beaker · 01-16-2003, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo_Gecko

THANK YOU!!! THE TMNT cartoon was very good and it rocked. The Turtles, Splinter, April, Shrdder, Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady, The Frogs, Mondo Gecko. All good things Ahh the golden memories of Childhood.

Indeed...it is time to bring back the fun, innocence, and wonder of our childhood. I think people realize this, hence the new TF and TMNT revival. Though they key is evolution...simply coming out with old dated Archie TMNT era shirts at Hot Topic isnt the key. Its fresh and new, such is why I am endlessly excited about the new show...less than a month to go!

Wingnut · 01-16-2003, 07:51 PM

ah yes childhood *reflects on the best time of my life*

**Karpo_007** · 01-16-2003, 08:26 PM

True with out the old cartoon there wouldn't have been any movies.

And the old TMNT is still good as a kid's show, But if you watch 170 episodes in few months like I did, You will see that you have over grown it too.

Donatello02 · 01-16-2003, 08:48 PM

Just yesterday I rewatched my old turtle tapes, like 4 of'em, which have the first couple of episodes. Then I watch the movie. Man...damn near jizzed my pants. Brought bac ka lot of good memories. Ahh, if only life was as simple as it were then. PLayin with your figures, watchin turtle cartoons, man..I miss those days.

Mondo_Gecko · 01-16-2003, 08:50 PM

AMEN yeah i miss those days. Nothing broght back it lilke watching the Frogs and Mondo Gecko episodes. Damn that was a trip.

Donatello02 · 01-16-2003, 08:52 PM

NO...what was a trip was when the opening credits started and that theme song played. THAT, and opening up one of those figures. The most vivid memory is my near the local mall plaza, which is still there today thankfully, opening a brand new Krang figure. Man...was I frickin amazed by that peice of plastic.

Mondo_Gecko · 01-16-2003, 09:06 PM

YES the theme song that rocked and seeing that now again gets me so excited.

Peanut · 01-16-2003, 09:43 PM

I would just like to add that anime.......sucks.........the end.

beaker · 01-16-2003, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello02

Just yesterday I rewatched my old turtle tapes, like 4 of'em, which have the first couple of episodes. Then I watch the movie. Man...damn near jizzed my pants. Brought bac ka lot of good memories. Ahh, if only life was as simple as it were then. PLayin with your figures, watchin turtle cartoons, man..I miss those days.

Oh man I so know...seeing the original TMNT in the theatres when I was 12...oh dude. Perhaps the greatest movie experience next to seeing Jedi(original version) in theatres. I remember I was *expletve deleted* blown the eff away by the first TMNT. It was dark, violent, edgy...yet had humor, puppetry, animatronics, and still was all PG. Back in the 80's they could pull stuff like that...then came the 90's, and well you saw what an abomination the films turned into

But yes, oh yes the memories! Seeing TMNT, going next door to the comic shop and reading the comics an rpg books. Oh sweet glorious times, with nary an Archie comic in sight(err, at least I didnt waste my time with those) Youre so right...man seeing that TMNT arcade intro on the MAME really jarred my memory...man I long for those great 1989 days! Hopefully that magic will be rekindled february 8th!

But yeah, nothing like opening up those those toys, going to Burger King and getting all the TMNT toys, watching the cartoon, playing the video games, etc.

*Jephael* · 01-16-2003, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by heretic

I would just like to say for the record that I enjoy ALL the tmnt mediums, but some moreso than others. And the some that I enjoy moreso are the Mirage series, first movie, and Archie series.

I agree with you there, Heretic!

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Originally Posted by heretic

Oh yeah, the Archie series (especially the later ones) are NOWHERE near as kiddified as the original poster portrayed. They are second only to the Mirage series in ass kickiness.

I love the Archie series! It was great from beginning to end! Though it does make me alittle upset that they never revived the Mutanimals in some way. They were just killed off like a bunch of rabid pets.

**HorseTechie** · 01-17-2003, 12:49 PM

On the flip side...

If it wasn't for the old 1989 cartoon, Eastman & Laird and Mirage studios would not have done as well as they did, or create such a fab fad int he concept of a Ninja Turtle. Those two made the decison to market their comic characters in that way to get the money.

Because of that reason, I'm not so bitter about the cartoon. I can understand their motives to simply succeed, even if it wasn't to cater to the rest of the fans who liked the darker comic books better. But they did their best to make up for that with City at War... until all the wealth and funding ran out. Which then, so did the fad and the other good TMNT times from the early 90's.

Being a fan of all the do for so long, I've also come to appreciate everything Mirage has done. And to also appreciate just how hard it is to market to the general public to keep a quickly tiring concept alive!

*sees people not getting her point anyway, so she sighs and goes on her way*

**Karpo_007** · 01-17-2003, 01:31 PM

Well The comic was making money too, But of course they got some extra from licensing.

Sparvid · 01-17-2003, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseTechie

On the flip side...

If it wasn't for the old 1989 cartoon, Eastman & Laird and Mirage studios would not have done as well as they did, or create such a fab fad int he concept of a Ninja Turtle.

But it it wasn't for the 1984 comic, there would not be a 1989 cartoon...

**HorseTechie** · 01-17-2003, 02:32 PM

Heh.. you missed my point. I like the comic, and I would rather have that over the cartoon. But the big TMNT fad came from the cartoon, not the comic.

Personally, if it wasn;t for the cartoon, that lead tot he first movie, I would have not read those articles that told me the whole thing came from the comic... which made me wanna go out and find them.

Which then brings up another classic debate: which came first, the chicken or the egg?

*Nickokapo* · 01-17-2003, 02:36 PM

The chicken of course, which evolved from some creature that looks like a cross between robert deniro and a spoon millions of years ago!
Or maybe not...errrr anyways, sure, i guess that if we didnt have the comic the toon would've never been made, but if he wasnt for the toon many of you probably would've never know the comic existed...'sides, to me the toon is sacred

it brings back memories..

beaker · 01-17-2003, 03:53 PM

oh yeah, there is no denying the late 80's cartoon is the reason we had so much cool TMNT stuff, like the arcade games or the first movie.

01-16-2003, 06:59 PM	#42
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	heh damn straight. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

01-16-2003, 07:27 PM	#43
beaker Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 483	My gosh, I booted up the TMNT arcade rom last night for the first time in ages, and fell in love with that era all over again. That TMNT theme song...yes Ive bashed the cartoon, but lets face it: Without the cartoon the TMNT property wouldnt have gone anywhere. No dark and edgy TMNT movie, no NEW cartoon, etc. I lost interest in the TMNT cartoon after awhile, but season one was gold. Im not going to history revision and say the cartoon was crap. For the time, as others have said, memories of that cartoon are very good. The whole 1989 era, between the video games, movie, toys, cartoon etc was great. Then by 1990 it seemed to all unravel like everything else in life did. There is no denying that the original TMNT is the mid to late 80's series. However, its safe to say most of us got into TMNT through the cartoon in the late 80's...and hopefully also discovered the great 80's series. As it stands the only thing that truly bugs the crap out of me is the Archie series, period. That just should even had been made. But man, hearing that TMNT cartoon theme song just brought back so much good memories...turtle power indeed. __________________ .:\\.:beaker:.//:. let the 80's entropy begin!

01-16-2003, 07:51 PM	#46
Wingnut Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pao Pao Café Posts: 1,264	ah yes childhood reflects on the best time of my life __________________ "I'll be what I wanna do."

01-16-2003, 08:48 PM	#48
Donatello02 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 503	Just yesterday I rewatched my old turtle tapes, like 4 of'em, which have the first couple of episodes. Then I watch the movie. Man...damn near jizzed my pants. Brought bac ka lot of good memories. Ahh, if only life was as simple as it were then. PLayin with your figures, watchin turtle cartoons, man..I miss those days. __________________ 'What ninja weapon did Don get? A stickball bat. Hey, you can call it a 'bo'. But you can call it a Ford Tempo too...it's still just a stick.'

01-16-2003, 08:52 PM	#50
Donatello02 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 503	NO...what was a trip was when the opening credits started and that theme song played. THAT, and opening up one of those figures. The most vivid memory is my near the local mall plaza, which is still there today thankfully, opening a brand new Krang figure. Man...was I frickin amazed by that peice of plastic. __________________ 'What ninja weapon did Don get? A stickball bat. Hey, you can call it a 'bo'. But you can call it a Ford Tempo too...it's still just a stick.'

01-16-2003, 07:44 PM	#44
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	THANK YOU!!! THE TMNT cartoon was very good and it rocked. The Turtles, Splinter, April, Shrdder, Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady, The Frogs, Mondo Gecko. All good things Ahh the golden memories of Childhood.

01-16-2003, 08:26 PM	#47
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	True with out the old cartoon there wouldn't have been any movies. And the old TMNT is still good as a kid's show, But if you watch 170 episodes in few months like I did, You will see that you have over grown it too.

01-16-2003, 08:50 PM	#49
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	AMEN yeah i miss those days. Nothing broght back it lilke watching the Frogs and Mondo Gecko episodes. Damn that was a trip.

01-16-2003, 09:06 PM	#51
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	YES the theme song that rocked and seeing that now again gets me so excited.

01-16-2003, 09:43 PM	#52
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I would just like to add that anime.......sucks.........the end.

01-17-2003, 12:49 PM	#55
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	On the flip side... If it wasn't for the old 1989 cartoon, Eastman & Laird and Mirage studios would not have done as well as they did, or create such a fab fad int he concept of a Ninja Turtle. Those two made the decison to market their comic characters in that way to get the money. Because of that reason, I'm not so bitter about the cartoon. I can understand their motives to simply succeed, even if it wasn't to cater to the rest of the fans who liked the darker comic books better. But they did their best to make up for that with City at War... until all the wealth and funding ran out. Which then, so did the fad and the other good TMNT times from the early 90's. Being a fan of all the do for so long, I've also come to appreciate everything Mirage has done. And to also appreciate just how hard it is to market to the general public to keep a quickly tiring concept alive! sees people not getting her point anyway, so she sighs and goes on her way

01-17-2003, 01:31 PM	#56
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well The comic was making money too, But of course they got some extra from licensing.

01-17-2003, 02:32 PM	#58
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	Heh.. you missed my point. I like the comic, and I would rather have that over the cartoon. But the big TMNT fad came from the cartoon, not the comic. Personally, if it wasn;t for the cartoon, that lead tot he first movie, I would have not read those articles that told me the whole thing came from the comic... which made me wanna go out and find them. Which then brings up another classic debate: which came first, the chicken or the egg?

01-17-2003, 02:36 PM	#59
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,802	The chicken of course, which evolved from some creature that looks like a cross between robert deniro and a spoon millions of years ago! Or maybe not...errrr anyways, sure, i guess that if we didnt have the comic the toon would've never been made, but if he wasnt for the toon many of you probably would've never know the comic existed...'sides, to me the toon is sacred it brings back memories.. __________________

01-17-2003, 03:53 PM	#60
beaker Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 483	oh yeah, there is no denying the late 80's cartoon is the reason we had so much cool TMNT stuff, like the arcade games or the first movie. __________________ .:\\.:beaker:.//:. let the 80's entropy begin!