Today's New Fast Forward Episode "Enter the Jammerhead" Discussion

[LogicDonny]

Originally Posted by Tinuvielsdreams

I think the only part I really liked was Master Splinter fighting him he says something along the lines of Jammerhead fighting a true Master...I was like oh yeah!! for a few moments I was happy and then Jammerhead knocked Splinter away and again I was sad for the episode...

you know, I felt the same way, I was so excited to see Splinter fight and then a few moments later, boom all lame.. the episode was average.. i have no seen all of FF but a few of the episodes are ok.

nothing beats 2k3 turtles.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

And it's Pretty much the same excuse being used for this show believe it to be rubbish if you want that's fine and all but I don't really think it's right to do so until the series has ended or at least gets past the first 2 seasons

Err...actually, it's perfectly right to criticise a season as bad as this to death if the episodes are consistently lame, it's not the same argument at all. TOS bashers love to say "your memories betray you" as an excuse to hide their own limited broad scope, but FF bashers HAVE broad scope, therefore there justified in saying "you're settling for something tame than something better" when overrated episodes like this and "The Journal" get the best praise, and let's face it, that's only because of all the references to the past.

I do still watch it, but only to see if it ever improves, it never does. I'm not even remotley bothering to leave a review now. That's how bad it is.

[Tinuvielsdreams]

Originally Posted by LogicDonny

you know, I felt the same way, I was so excited to see Splinter fight and then a few moments later, boom all lame.. the episode was average.. i have no seen all of FF but a few of the episodes are ok.

nothing beats 2k3 turtles.

D*mn Straight!....lol

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Err...actually, it's perfectly right to criticise a season as bad as this to death if the episodes are consistently lame, it's not the same argument at all. TOS bashers love to say "your memories betray you" as an excuse to hide their own limited broad scope, but FF bashers HAVE broad scope, therefore there justified in saying "you're settling for something tame than something better" when overrated episodes like this and "The Journal" get the best praise, and let's face it, that's only because of all the references to the past.
I do still watch it, but only to see if it ever improves, it never does. I'm not even remotley bothering to leave a review now. That's how bad it is.

My Bad I wasn't talking about 2k3 and FF I was talking about how everyone says how good The Batman Got when it down right sucked at first pretty much how FF did and or does in some peoples opinions.
I'm sure thats true But there have been other episodes I liked quite a bit but I guess it's simply because they did things I wanted to see happen for a long time even if they had been exicuted poorly.

[gobo]

I had no resonating complaints with this one. I'm glad to know that they've trimmed back the million and one minor annoyances. I also thought this ep would fit right in with the classic 'toon. It was great for if you really just had no motivation to do something more involved... like moving around. ^_^ I didn't dislike it, and I didn't love it. It was just decent, but still better than plenty other >> eps.

Good points:
- Jammerhead in Riker's
- Glaxxor: "I need to go to the little boy's room. I have to make a number four." (for shame... making an Extra Value Meal in the loo... ^_^ )
- Splinter: "As you wish my son. But, hurry... for my sake if not yours."
- Splinter kicking butt (the rat is back! ^_^ )

Bad points:
- Starlee's mom's voice
- Glaxxor to Cody: "if you're not the boyfriend, you look an awful lot like the guy she says is her boyfriend" (couldn't be more obvious; the heir to O'Neil Tech has an obsessed fan-girl )
- Starlee's mom: "I take it your insured, Mister Jones, and that your friend has had his shots." (if ever there was a better excuse to hear "It's ninja time!"...

I'd give it a 3 of 5 for not giving me reasons to cringe on a regular basis.

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Now I wish we learned exactly what Jammerhead is. Is he a robot or some sort of cyborg???

"This guy is all about wet-wiring circuitry into himself" was said by Starlee in this ep, and Jammerhead himself referred to his body as a "meat-bag" in the bodyjacker ep. So, I'd say he's undeniably a cyborg.

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

And why didn't they ever notice the tracking device on Don's butt???

By the time I got back with the 'roid ointment, it was already too late. Seriously, they just drew that thing way too big.

Originally Posted by Jester

Am I alone in liking this episode?

Nope.

Originally Posted by Tinuvielsdreams

I think the only part I really liked was Master Splinter fighting him he says something along the lines of Jammerhead fighting a true Master...I was like oh yeah!! for a few moments I was happy and then Jammerhead knocked Splinter away and again I was sad for the episode...

One martial arts master against the skills of many... Realistically, Splinter should have had more trouble trying to hold his own. Splinter isn't supposed to be the greatest the world has ever known, nor is Ninjutsu supposed to trump Kung-Pao or Plutonian Thumb-Wrestling. Splinter showing Jammerhead that the skills are hardly worthwhile without the discipline to use them would have been nice, but that's too much to expect from >>.

The next new ep should be "Milk Run", and that is next week with Bishop and Zixx. This hologram 'joke' (term used very loosely) wasn't insulting enough the first time, they have to beat us senseless with it some more? The only thing good about that plan is that I should appreciate >> that much more when I'm senseless.

For anyone who hasn't seen this ep and is curious, it was uploaded to the 'Video On Demand' page of 4Kids.tv yesterday. You can also see the lame preview for next week's ep there.

[Tinuvielsdreams]

^^ I see your point but Jammerhead was a cheater and Master Splinter doesn't cheat! He is still very experienced and I am sure while yes Jammerhead knows all sorts of different styles Splinter could still be the wiser one in the battle...

Yes I saw that preview, or the redundant 30 second clip show as you could call it. Poor Raph...

[CyberCubed]

Was that clip even of the next ep?

It looked like all scenes from the first (and only) Bishop FF ep.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Was that clip even of the next ep?

It looked like all scenes from the first (and only) Bishop FF ep.

I've said it over and over now...reading does wonders. And for the last and final time it was clips used from past episodes.

[gobo]

Prepare to eat your words next Saturday, dude. ^_^

[Tinuvielsdreams]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Was that clip even of the next ep?

It looked like all scenes from the first (and only) Bishop FF ep.

Hence I used the term clip show It really was just that in commercial form (Sorry to repeat Putrescent up there)

Using Bishop again should make for a better episode though *Fingers Crossed* Makes me nostalgic for 2K3 *Sniff*

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by gobo

Prepare to eat your words next Saturday, dude. ^_^

Um how exactly am I going to eat my own words next saterday "dude" when my comments are correct all it takes is anyone with half good vision to see those are clips taken from the episode "Bishop to Knight"?

[Cascadia]

It was amazing that one of quotes on my senior class ad made it into the script.

The two things we can give our children: One is roots, the other is wings.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, 4kidsTV has "Bishop to Knight" playing on their Video on Demand on the site and I compared it with the preview clip and it is indeed from that episode, particularly the Raph kicking Bishop scene.

So they're not going to repeat Raph attacking holograms, at least not with those scenes anyway.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Yeah, 4kidsTV has "Bishop to Knight" playing on their Video on Demand on the site and I compared it with the preview clip and it is indeed from that episode, particularly the Raph kicking Bishop scene.

So they're not going to repeat Raph attacking holograms, at least not with those scenes anyway.

Maybe people will start believing my years of tmnt knowledge (usless as it may be!) around here..shesh..I'm not here to screw around with anyone...I'm giving Rodney Dangerfield a run for his money.lol

[Time Mistress]

Guess I'm doing this review a bit late but -

Somewhat interesting premise ruined by a bum ending. I've noticed this in several FF eps - set up for a cool fight, only to be let down by the lame resolution.

I hate Jammerhead, but after seeing the way he took out Donatello he seemed like a credible threat for a short while. When he actually recorded Don's moves and used them against him, I thought, now that's a neat idea. But we don't see Jammerhead repeat this trick at all against the other TMNT or Splinter, very disapointing. I was hoping that the solution to this episode would be Splinter bringing down Jammerhead or doing something similar to the weapon switch from What a Croc but neither of those happened. Butt-kicking seems to have given way to lame humor in this case for an ending.

And is it just me or is Starlee a redundant character. We have Don who's a genius (and never even got a chance to be the one to figure out a technical solution in this ep), we have Cody the annoying genius great grandkid of April, and now we have Starlee the token female genius. I don't hate Starlee, I just think she has no useful purpose. And what's with her family being Jewish?

One good thing I can say about this ep, kung fu movies do rock! And it was cool to see ALL of the Turtles and not just Mike think so. Even Splinter joined in watching, even if they are (gasp) fake. It was also refreshing to see them all playing video games as a family and as well as keeping up with their studies. It looks like Mikey's lesson from the graduation day ep may be sticking after all. I did enjoy the family bonding time at the beginning of this ep, it reminded me of the downtime when they watched the western in the Ultimate Ninja ep.

The "roots and wings" comment was also sweet.