To You FF Bashers - Page 3

*Revan* · 04-12-2007, 02:27 PM

Cmon Zarius, he even said he doesn't like FF. He's just torked that everyone hates it simply because of the animation

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Trust me I'm far from an FF fan. The sow isn't perfect but honestly not half as bad as some people make it out to be.

Swany · 04-12-2007, 02:33 PM

Im kinda stuck on this at the mo, Some of the episodes have been crap, but its getting better now that long term story lines of some sort is starting to emerge.

I would like to see an apperance of the future turtles, I mean how long do Turtles live? that would be cool. Just to see how different and grown up they are.

Yeah there are a few things that annoy the hell out of me though. "Ninja time" especially, plus a few continuity errors. Cody and Sterling probably annoy me the most.

Todays ep was good though. "The freaks come out at night" there was a few times I was like "WTF, kids watch this!" (It was the black vomit that did it, I was practically boiking myself) And ninjitsu_magic_47 is right, the villans are cool. But none of them really measure up to the Shredder.

*zkarlette* · 04-12-2007, 02:41 PM

Whats all this then?...

I rather have FF than nothing at all.. still watch it and its an ok show , I would like them to go back to the present ofcourse.. but meanwhile Its alright

*ZariusTwo* · 04-12-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutrino

Cmon Zarius, he even said he doesn't like FF. He's just torked that everyone hates it simply because of the animation

I don't hate it because of the animation, but because it's badly written, which was also part of his argument (claiming season one had just as bad episodes, yet "The Golden Puck" was from the second, and far inferior, season)

~~AquaParade~~ · 04-12-2007, 03:03 PM

.....lol....anyways, I too dont mind ff, sure 2k3 was way superior in my opinion in terms of animation and overall story telling, but ff has room to improve. I'm betting the second season will be a nice improvement over the current fast forward episodes. After a little but of ff, I just started to appreciate it for what it is, not 2k3, but enjoyable.

*zkarlette* · 04-12-2007, 03:11 PM

Ditto ...its the same drama as in the TMNT movies just like it for what it is...It wont compare to the other ones as it is with the OT and the NT very different but love them for what each one was..

*Spitfire* · 04-12-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Bulls*it. Season two is far worse than the first season and more of a better example for this argument, but it's nice to see you're now jumping on the "support FF" fad like every other fan settling for medicority. I'd rather not sell out.

As I explained Season 1 just has good examples of bad dialog I was comparing the whole show. And yeah season 2 is the worst season I agree.

And it's nice to see you hop on the trend of "If everyone else likes I have to hate it to be cool"

*ToTheNines* · 04-12-2007, 07:04 PM

I think its safe to hate FF without being labled as someone trying to fit in...

*Spitfire* · 04-12-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I think its safe to hate FF without being labled as someone trying to fit in...

I'm just sick of people assuming I support the show because I defend it. I'm defending it because I'm sick of seeing people whine about how bad it is. Since it came out that's all I ever see on here. It's nice to see not everyone hates it, but constant whining annoys me. And a topic addressing it might help that a little. If it doesn't then sorry I failed. But at least I'll try.

And the complaints aren't different for each episode their always the same
"Ninja Time sucks"
"Serling sucks"
"Cody sucks"
"Splinter doesn't act like Splinter"
"Mikey is annoying"
"2K3 is better"
"Animation sucks"
"TLS is better"

Every episode it's the same complaints. No one ever says anything different yet as much as they hate it supposedly they tune in every week and then come here and post the same thing they posted last week. If they said something different then I wouldn't care but it's never different.

As best said by Raph in "Thing's Change"

"We got it the first thousand times"

*ToTheNines* · 04-12-2007, 07:10 PM

Your just fueling the fire, making a random thread to protect the innocent and helpless fast forward.

*Spitfire* · 04-12-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Your just fueling the fire, making a random thread to protect the innocent and helpless fast forward.

Like I said if it back fires then I'm sorry. But it's so bad people who do like can't even say they do without getting flamed for it. I just want to put a stop to that if I can.

*Kunoichi_Haruko* · 04-12-2007, 07:13 PM

Wait, who's getting flamed for liking it? Have I missed something?

*ToTheNines* · 04-12-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Like I said if it back fires then I'm sorry. But it's so bad people who do like can't even say they do without getting flamed for it. I just want to put a stop to that if I can.

I agree with you that the week-in and week-out complaints get old, but people aren't gonna see this thread and be like, oh crap, shut up

*Spitfire* · 04-12-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I agree with you that the week-in and week-out complaints get old, but people aren't gonna see this thread and be like, oh crap, shut up

Like I said maybe not, but it was worth a try. At least here the discussion is more civilized, despite the rather mean title*I really couldn't think of a better one*

*Kunoichi_Haruko* · 04-12-2007, 07:18 PM

I've got a title for ya:

"In (Semi)Defense of Fast Forward....". Doesn't sound as antagonistic as the current one.

*Spitfire* · 04-12-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kunoichi_Haruko

I've got a title for ya:

"In (Semi)Defense of Fast Forward....". Doesn't sound as antagonistic as the current one.

That's a good one, but only mods can change titles otherwise I would.

Oh and in response to your earlier post just check some of the FF topics and you will see the flaming I'm talking about.

*jeff the cheff* · 04-12-2007, 09:10 PM

I don't really understand many of the arguments here.

I watched a few episodes of FF, and I thought I would really like it....but for some reason I didn't have a desire to watch it. And it's not because of change, I'm willing to accept the fact that 2k3 is in the past. I just watched this and it...felt different. So I'm not a great critic of tv shows and movies. I know what I like, even though I can't explain it. And I can't explain what I don't like about FF. I also can't explain what I like better about 2k3. I just know that for 2k3, I was into the episodes, and I couldn't wait for the next weeks episode. I would wake up early on saturday, for my only day to sleep in, just to watch it. Then, when FF came on, I don't even put it on even if I'm awake.

I guess I'm not really a FF basher, so this thread doesn't really apply to me. But there are definetly reasons to hate on it. I will disagree that the dialogue is bad in 2k3, or that the fillers are just as bad. Golden Puck was one of my favorite episodes. I just enjoy watching it. None of FF episodes do this for me, and a lot of other people feel the same way. So don't bash on the bashers.

*ZariusTwo* · 04-12-2007, 11:10 PM

Perhaps what Spit's really trying to say is that he's afraid the crtitics are trying to flatline FF and end all support of the series as it stands presentsly, therefore preventing a return to the quality we were reaching through any and all means. Perfectly reasonable, but the way he's went around the problem has'nt been reasonable.

I don't post in any episode discussion threads, I barely talk about FF, I don't even like "The Journal" or "Timing Is Everything", there worse than episodes of Super Mario World for christ's sake, there overrated purely because they deal with the characters of the last few seasons, but there both as bad as much of FF has been.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 04-12-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Perhaps what Spit's really trying to say is that he's afraid the crtitics are trying to flatline FF and end all support of the series as it stands presentsly, therefore preventing a return to the quality we were reaching through any and all means. Perfectly reasonable, but the way he's went around the problem has'nt been reasonable.

I don't post in any episode discussion threads, I barely talk about FF, I don't even like "The Journal" or "Timing Is Everything", there worse than episodes of Super Mario World for christ's sake, there overrated purely because they deal with the characters of the last few seasons, but there both as bad as much of FF has been.

I gotta agree with you there. I saw that Shredder fight scene in Timing, they had right idea, but too bad the excecution was horrid. Not to mention the animation just took every bit of flavor our of what could have been a cool fight.

X · 04-12-2007, 11:29 PM

Zarius, if you say that FF is badly written, TMNT 2k3 technically is as well. I've seen cartoons written way better then 2k3. I say this purely due to whoever creates the humor for the 2k3/FF series. There is a fair share of stank on some of the 2k3 episodes. There will always be good episodes of 2k3, and good episodes of FF. However, there will always be craptastic episodes of 2k3, and FF as well...

-X-

04-12-2007, 02:33 PM	#42
Swany Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Glasgow. Scotland Posts: 924	Im kinda stuck on this at the mo, Some of the episodes have been crap, but its getting better now that long term story lines of some sort is starting to emerge. I would like to see an apperance of the future turtles, I mean how long do Turtles live? that would be cool. Just to see how different and grown up they are. Yeah there are a few things that annoy the hell out of me though. "Ninja time" especially, plus a few continuity errors. Cody and Sterling probably annoy me the most. Todays ep was good though. "The freaks come out at night" there was a few times I was like "WTF, kids watch this!" (It was the black vomit that did it, I was practically boiking myself) And ninjitsu_magic_47 is right, the villans are cool. But none of them really measure up to the Shredder. __________________ Last edited by Swany; 04-12-2007 at 02:45 PM.

04-12-2007, 02:41 PM	#43
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	Whats all this then?... I rather have FF than nothing at all.. still watch it and its an ok show , I would like them to go back to the present ofcourse.. but meanwhile Its alright __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

04-12-2007, 03:11 PM	#46
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	Ditto ...its the same drama as in the TMNT movies just like it for what it is...It wont compare to the other ones as it is with the OT and the NT very different but love them for what each one was.. __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

04-12-2007, 07:13 PM	#52
Kunoichi_Haruko A shell of a good hit! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, Va. Posts: 1,685	Wait, who's getting flamed for liking it? Have I missed something? __________________

04-12-2007, 07:18 PM	#55
Kunoichi_Haruko A shell of a good hit! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, Va. Posts: 1,685	I've got a title for ya: "In (Semi)Defense of Fast Forward....". Doesn't sound as antagonistic as the current one. __________________

04-12-2007, 03:03 PM	#45
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	.....lol....anyways, I too dont mind ff, sure 2k3 was way superior in my opinion in terms of animation and overall story telling, but ff has room to improve. I'm betting the second season will be a nice improvement over the current fast forward episodes. After a little but of ff, I just started to appreciate it for what it is, not 2k3, but enjoyable.

04-12-2007, 07:04 PM	#48
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,034	I think its safe to hate FF without being labled as someone trying to fit in...

04-12-2007, 07:10 PM	#50
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,034	Your just fueling the fire, making a random thread to protect the innocent and helpless fast forward.

04-12-2007, 09:10 PM	#57
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	I don't really understand many of the arguments here. I watched a few episodes of FF, and I thought I would really like it....but for some reason I didn't have a desire to watch it. And it's not because of change, I'm willing to accept the fact that 2k3 is in the past. I just watched this and it...felt different. So I'm not a great critic of tv shows and movies. I know what I like, even though I can't explain it. And I can't explain what I don't like about FF. I also can't explain what I like better about 2k3. I just know that for 2k3, I was into the episodes, and I couldn't wait for the next weeks episode. I would wake up early on saturday, for my only day to sleep in, just to watch it. Then, when FF came on, I don't even put it on even if I'm awake. I guess I'm not really a FF basher, so this thread doesn't really apply to me. But there are definetly reasons to hate on it. I will disagree that the dialogue is bad in 2k3, or that the fillers are just as bad. Golden Puck was one of my favorite episodes. I just enjoy watching it. None of FF episodes do this for me, and a lot of other people feel the same way. So don't bash on the bashers.

04-12-2007, 11:10 PM	#58
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,296	Perhaps what Spit's really trying to say is that he's afraid the crtitics are trying to flatline FF and end all support of the series as it stands presentsly, therefore preventing a return to the quality we were reaching through any and all means. Perfectly reasonable, but the way he's went around the problem has'nt been reasonable. I don't post in any episode discussion threads, I barely talk about FF, I don't even like "The Journal" or "Timing Is Everything", there worse than episodes of Super Mario World for christ's sake, there overrated purely because they deal with the characters of the last few seasons, but there both as bad as much of FF has been. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

04-12-2007, 11:29 PM	#60
X Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 767	Zarius, if you say that FF is badly written, TMNT 2k3 technically is as well. I've seen cartoons written way better then 2k3. I say this purely due to whoever creates the humor for the 2k3/FF series. There is a fair share of stank on some of the 2k3 episodes. There will always be good episodes of 2k3, and good episodes of FF. However, there will always be craptastic episodes of 2k3, and FF as well... -X-