Best version of Splinter?

[triplexxx]

I suppose the live-action movie Splinter since he seemed most down-to-earth and fatherly. Both toon Splinters were protective and fatherly too, but in the OT, he had a few lash-outs that annoyed me, and I for one don't care much for his sense of humor in the new toon 'cause I find it to be condescending. The CGI Splinter I felt kind of spiteful towards too, had his fatherly moments too, but kind of morally corrupted in ways mentioned above.

[Spawn Guy]

I liked New Movie Splinter more for what's implied about him than anything else. Like Spit said...the guy just dosen't show up enough to really prove or disprove anything. But I like the "wise old man tricks his students into having epiphanies" vibe I got off him. I'd probably take Archie Splinter because he had everything I liked about Splinter: Mirage Splinter's wisdom, New Toon Splinter's humour and Old toon Splinter's laid back feel. Although I hated the design. As in Cannot Stand It.

I liked New Toon Splinter's design out of all of them. Made him look as old as he generally feels. The guy from The TMNT movie game has been the best voice out of all of them. Deep but laid back.

[Jester]

You know Spawnie now that you mention it, Archie Splinter wouldbe my fave too. He's a valuable asset to thre team, and he's a father niot just teacher or friend.

[Rooish]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Episode 1 of season 3, Beneath These Streets.

Bahahahaha I can't believe he said that! Did the writers even know what "Sacajewea" (sp?????) means? Splinter made it sound almost Japanese-like!

In retrospect, that episode was actually the reason why I disliked Splinter as a kid. He seemed like a very abusive parent to me from that episode. Upon watching the OT now, he didn't seem that bad, but I had forgotten about this episode. Ouch! It must be very hard balancing between being a father and between being a martial arts sensei. And although I like Splinter's warm and fuzzy moments in the new toon, I do like him to be a little harsher, not because that makes his character more likeable, but because it makes the Turtles more angsty (and therefore more interesting, although it's kind of sad that things work that way).

[Lady Venus]

I'm going along with New Splinter bandwagon. I think is the best Splinter version ever!

[ninjitsu_magic_47]

2k3 splinter all the way. His personality is great, and I like his fur color

[JaffleMan]

I liked the Mirage Splinter the most. All the other incarnations make Splinter seem like too much of a know-it-all yet in the Mirage series he isn't so perfect and is also a little bit vengeful. Unfortunately the Mirage version of Splinter does not come across as witty but they may be because of the form of media that the comics are presented to us in.

2k3 Splinter and the first movie splinter are both a very close second, I'd almost go as far to say I like them as much as Mirage Splinter but I like each for very different reasons.

[odupianist]

I've always been a fan of the brown haired Splinter

[Sage Ninja]

That's a really good note. I've actually always visualized him as one to use corporal punishment, just because of the background and culture things. But to actually SEE him backhand the boys, or swat em on the leg... It sure made me sit up and pay attention...

I think so too, I've always thought that given the fact that the turtles are are not the norm and can get brutally tortured and killed if they where to act stupid and disobey Splinter and get captured, and because they are warriors, that Splinter would administer displign through force made sence. I've said it before and I'll say it again Splinter is a raising a typical family of American boys where taking away their TV privlidges or or confining them to their room, would make a strong enough impression for the turtles to stay in line. But yeah, even with all that to consider I do admit that every time Splinter has smacked the turtles around I was like but it does get your attention and put sence of realism that the turtles get disapligned like any other teenager and gets in trouble. Also I think when Splinter hits the turtles it gives the situation some tension in a "oh crap! Splinters pissed at the turtles, how far is this going to go?" sort of way. I think the reason why we get all OMG WTF, when Splinter hits the turtles is because in our culture the whole corporal punishment thing has become something of a taboo since most forms of physical punishment have been abandoned for more friendlier means of disaplign, that Splinter useing this is sort of a shock (to some), but I think it lends a sort of realism to Splinters back ground as a japanese rat and not an american one, which I think helps to set apart as not the typical American dad. Splinter is old school even in the New toon where he seems to be laid back.

I do think that, in the New toon the Splinters use of corporal punishment has been handled well, since (when he uses it) it is only a quick swat upside the head with his cane or on another part of the turtles body and ends there. And even when he is shown hitting them the show ushually censores it a bit so you don't see the actual contact. The one time Splinter was angry enough to back hand the turtles was because they put them selves in danger on purpose, which I think they deserved. It's not like Splinter beats the turtles up or throws them through the wall, although I bet some well earned beatings of this nature occur off screen when they really deserve it happens. Some how I think Splinter would wipe the floor with the turtles if they really step outta line. And I think the smacks up side the head has been a fairly recent thing since they've entered adolencents. I don't think Splinter smacked them around when they where just little kids, although maybe he spanked them, I don't see Splinter using "time out" when they where little.

I suppose the live-action movie Splinter since he seemed most down-to-earth and fatherly. Both toon Splinters were protective and fatherly too, but in the OT, he had a few lash-outs that annoyed me, and I for one don't care much for his sense of humor in the new toon 'cause I find it to be condescending. The CGI Splinter I felt kind of spiteful towards too, had his fatherly moments too, but kind of morally corrupted in ways mentioned above.

I thought OT Splinter's lash outs where funny, when I was a kid. He was such a controlled "zen" character that when he flipped out and handed the turtles asses to them I was , woah, where the hell did that come from? Although it did make him seem a little hypicritcal at times, since he would preach in every episode that unnessacary violence was brutish and bad. Yeah ok Splinter . And I generally like 2k3 Splinter for his humour, it one of his best qualities, but I can see why you could say it's condensending at times, heck it can be down right mean spirited at times too, like with that trick he pulled on the boys in "The Journal" that was funny but at the same time really hitting below the belt, especially with the story involving Leo and Karai! Splinter has balls to go there especially after all the crap Leo went through becasue of karai.

[Spawn Guy]

Or it's one of those...y'know...things...writers write them for a living all the time...jokes. Yeah. One of them.

[Sage Ninja]

yes I know, all of Fast Forward was an excuse to tell a big joke

although I like Splinter's warm and fuzzy moments in the new toon, I do like him to be a little harsher, not because that makes his character more likeable, but because it makes the Turtles more angsty (and therefore more interesting, although it's kind of sad that things work that way).

Meh...I''m not sure if I like Splinter to be sterner and harsher even though that is more appropiate for his role as sensei. And I don't know I sort of want to like Splinter and when he has his moments of "cold and stoic Ninja Master"
where he expects to much or puts to much blame on the turtles and is generally unreasonable. It can be a bit annoying. But you are right that it adds more agnst to the turtles characters if, on top of all the other stressers in their life, they have the added pressure of dealing with a strict hard to please father, it makes their situation more sympathatic. But Splinter being colder and morally ambiguious has some creative potenticial. I wonder if a story line could ever be pulled off where Splinter gets a little too blinded for vengence which causes him to be a bit ruthless and has the turtles do something that they don't agree with and it ends up causing a rift between them. It could be a good challenge in their relationship to over come if done right and strengthen it.

I liked New Movie Splinter more for what's implied about him than anything else. Like Spit said...the guy just dosen't show up enough to really prove or disprove anything. But I like the "wise old man tricks his students into having epiphanies" vibe I got off him.

hmm, I liked CGI Splinter but I really didn't get that vibe off of him. I mean it was obvious that Splinter took a step back and was letting the turtles handle their own problems. But it seemed more like Splinter just wanted Leo to hurry up and take control of the situation and bring Raphael under control.

I just thought of something that I like about mirage Splinter that I haven't really seen in the other mediums. His bond with April. In the mirage comics Splinter seems to really take her under his wing and almost assume a fatherly way toward her and offer her guidance. I really love the scene where Splinter calls April "daughter" in one issue. It was very sweet. And unfortunately I haven't really much of that in other mediums. Splinter seems to be nothing more than polite toward April in most mediums like a friend. I know that Splinter has taught April some ninjitsu in the New toon but I think I would have liked to have seen a few episodes where they interacted and he was instructing her. Or at least have them team up with each other.

That is one thing I liked about the old toon, there was a few instances where April and Splinter interacted with each other and teamed up and they worked well together.

[Spawn Guy]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

yes I know, all of Fast Forward was an excuse to tell a big joke

No, the entire smacking thing is a joke. I don't know why people don't get that. The set up and execution could not be more blatant about it.

[Sage Ninja]

Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

No, the entire smacking thing is a joke. I don't know why people don't get that. The set up and execution could not be more blatant about it.

I'm sorry i was under the impression that this was a message board where you can discuss trivial things even if they are just jokes. Come on, Spawn Guy.

[Bad Guys Lover]

Every version of Splinter is cool to me.

[Spawn Guy]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

I'm sorry i was under the impression that this was a message board where you can discuss trivial things even if they are just jokes. Come on, Spawn Guy.

Dosen't change the fact people keep blowing it out of proportion.

[NameGoesHere1066]

I voted for CGI movie Splinter. He was voiced by an actual japanese person and I liked how he spoke a few times in japanese and despite being kind of unreasonable his little speech to Raph toward the end of the movie really sold his character for me. I wsh we could have seen more of the tender parent side of Splinter in the movie because I think too many people are to unforgiving of of the hard ass ways he displayed in the movie.

The runner up I would put is Splinter in the New toon (before FF) I think every one has covered him in this thread so I won't. But I don't like that he's silver so it kind of dims his appeal a little.

But over all Splinter's character has been a bit shifty to me. I like him well enough but he always seems to be a bit manipulative and sneaky and he keeps things from his sons that seem wholly uncalled for. I can understand wanting to sheild the his sons from things but there are times that it seems like Splinter hides things from his sons for his on ends just so he can engineer the the out come of a situation in his favor.

[Arcade Joe]

I liked Splinter in the 2k3 series the best overall......

[Jelly Bean]

I voted for cartoon Splinter from the current series because I just love that wise cracking silver haired rat LOL. He is active and keeps his sons in line and and so hold his own. Some times I actually think it's funny when he clobbers the turtles when they step out of line (I guess I'm in the minority on this one) and I love how forceful he can be, even though I didn't care for season five all that much, I loved how he went up there and confronted the tribunal and how mouthy and disrespectful he was. His whole mannerism was just "f*** you"!!!

I like him well enough but he always seems to be a bit manipulative and sneaky and he keeps things from his sons that seem wholly uncalled for. I can understand wanting to sheild the his sons from things but there are times that it seems like Splinter hides things from his sons for his on ends just so he can engineer the the out come of a situation in his favor.

actually I like this aspect of Splinter, and I wouldn't say he does it for his own favor! I like how Splinter is hands off when it comes to the turtles learning life lessons and instead of going into obnoxious "I know best so do what I say" parent mode and puts them insituations where they figure it out on their own, or motivates them into acting to their best.

Also...some one mentioned on here that Splinter had a disrespectful and condensending sense of humour? In what way is his sense of humour like that?

[NightwatchersOnlygirl]

I voted for the new movie Splinter his voice actor suited him just right

[Sage Ninja]

you know what I also like about Splinter in the new toon is his relationship with Yoshi and how he loved him and actually saw him as sort of a father figure. I don't think other versions of the franchise have high lighted this dynamic of Splinter and Yoshi's a;tionship with each other. Here is a video I found on youtube that comcentrates on Splinter and his relationship with Yoshi as well as the turtles and basically how awsome he is as a character:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYZdS...eature=related