Toy Story 3 - Page 3

*BubblyShell22* · 07-04-2010, 08:09 AM

Lotso was in Up? I didn't even notice that one. I'll have to check that out sometime.

*Shark_Blade* · 07-04-2010, 09:48 AM

Just to share some pics with you guys.

The rest of the gang:

Those guys at Playskool, can't they get me and my wife's design right?

I haven't seen Cars yet cause it seems boring. And they're gonna have a sequel? Why can't we have The Incredibles 2?

Shellsweet · 07-04-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Lotso was in Up? I didn't even notice that one. I'll have to check that out sometime.

He's in the bedroom with that little girl when she ran up to the window after seeing the rainbow of colors light her room from the balloons.

*Candy Kappa* · 07-04-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by samhain88

I just re watched Toy Story 1 and you can def see how far they have come. They should update the first one with newer CG. You can really notice it when you see Sid's dog.

I disagree, it should stay untouched. It's a piece of history as the first full computer animated film and the huge impact it made

*Samhain* · 07-05-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa

I disagree, it should stay untouched. It's a piece of history as the first full computer animated film and the huge impact it made

Yes and updating would not change that fact. 20 years from now the first one will probably look like ass compared to what we are seeing. I dont see anything wrong with updating to make it look better.

*Roseangelo* · 07-05-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by samhain88

Yes and updating would not change that fact. 20 years from now the first one will probably look like ass compared to what we are seeing. I dont see anything wrong with updating to make it look better.

The idea is just as stupid as "revising" TMNT #1.

*Samhain* · 07-05-2010, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

The idea is just as stupid as "revising" TMNT #1.

Oooooookaaaaay....

*Krutch* · 07-05-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

The idea is just as stupid as "revising" TMNT #1.

Yaaaaaaa.... alrightythen

But anyways, yeah, I checked out Toy Story 1 last night. Surprised how far the quality has come. I first really noticed it when the army men were in the plant watching Andy opening his toys. The leaves... the leaves! Looks like something Mainframe would have made in Beast Wars. I agree that it shouldnt be redone, but I'm just saying. I really was kinda shocked how far CGI has come.

*XERO* · 07-05-2010, 10:43 PM

You know, there was a time the graphics in the SNES game Donkey Kong Country were the sh*t.

In a nostalgic way, they still are. Goes the same to the animation in the first Toy Story movie.

*BubblyShell22* · 07-06-2010, 09:46 AM

I agree with that, Ben. The animation may be different from what it is now, but it's still a great movie with the plot and the characters. And considering this was the first film Pixar ever made, they did a good job with what they had.

Fledermaus · 07-06-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch

I first really noticed it when the army men were in the plant watching Andy opening his toys. The leaves... the leaves! Looks like something Mainframe would have made in Beast Wars.

Um... no. Are you blind? The rendering of smooth leaves was fine. Pixar had no trouble rendering plants, let alone smooth, plastic-like surfaces at that time. (The houseplant was made of plastic - FOREST FANTASY. Perhaps you saw a low-resolution version of the film on YouTube and were unable to read the sign). Hair/ Fur gave them trouble. That's why you never see the heads of the adults, molly had stiff, tight curls, and Andy and Sid had identical, military buzz cuts. And look at the dog. The animation too, was fine throughout most of the film. The performances perhaps weren't quite as impeccable as what we saw in Toy Story 3, but it's still a great film with believable characters who drive the story with strong writing and strong strong vocal and animated performances. (If anything changed besides the inclusion of better human characters, the lighting in TOy Story 3 was the most noticeable change to me. It was so much richer and more varied than in the first two movies in the series, it actually breaks visual continuity - but only a little.) In terms of writing and story (i.e. visual storytelling, economy), Toy Story 1 is one of their very best.

(Even so, Toy Story 3 is my new Pixar Favorite.

)

What DID suck in the first toy story movie were the human designs and above all, the design of the dog Scud. The directors of the film are still ashamed of that dog. The designs are the only true weakness of that film. Don't confuse simpler technology with poorly applied technology. What matters is that, with the exception of the dog and the human characters (and remember this was before Brad Bird directed the Incredibles and revolutionized the way humans are designed for CG animation), it wasn't cheaply done, nothing was half-assed, and the film was truly "finished" in every sense of the word.

Please don't throw out BS comparing the animation and rendering in Toy Story to Beast Wars. If you must compare Pixar to Mainframe, then I suggest comparing Andre and Wally B. to, maybe MTV's Spider-Man.

And before anyone calls me out on this, note I am not comparing the greatness of the Beast Wars series to the greatness of Pixar. I am only relating their animation/rendering prowess.

*Krutch* · 07-07-2010, 05:04 AM

Who pissed in your Cheerios? I know this is the internet and all but man.. relax.

Forgive me if I felt that THIS:

Would have felt right at home with THIS:

**ThirdMarioBro** · 07-07-2010, 05:06 AM

Know the feeling Ben. It hit me when I was looking at the movie posters for Toy Story 1 and then 3. The difference was night and day, but WOAH. You wouldn't imagine that the difference would be that much since the characters haven't fundamentally changed, but all the little things add up. Pixar really has come a long way.

*BubblyShell22* · 07-07-2010, 08:25 AM

Yeah, Pixar has come a long way in terms of animation.

*Samhain* · 07-11-2010, 02:23 PM

Well I finally gave in and bought the Toy Story collection Buzz and Woody. Ive been watching reviews of them and they look awesome.

Fledermaus · 07-11-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch

Who pissed in your Cheerios? I know this is the internet and all but man.. relax.

Forgive me if I felt that THIS:

Would have felt right at home with THIS:

You did not piss in my bowl. I simply think your comparison is absolutely silly. Show me a clear close-up image of the mainframe flora and I might consider your comparison without laughing. I apologize if you mistook my enthusiasm for what WAS improved in Toy Story 3, and what actually sucked then and sucks even more now in Toy Story 1 for an unwarranted flame. I am an animator and this IS my job and I have numerous friends who worked on this movie and naturally... I will get very excited about these topics and call people out in this area when they are wrong. And you are wrong.

07-04-2010, 08:09 AM	#41
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Lotso was in Up? I didn't even notice that one. I'll have to check that out sometime. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

07-05-2010, 10:43 PM	#49
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	You know, there was a time the graphics in the SNES game Donkey Kong Country were the sht. In a nostalgic way, they still are. Goes the same to the animation in the first Toy Story* movie. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

07-06-2010, 09:46 AM	#50
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I agree with that, Ben. The animation may be different from what it is now, but it's still a great movie with the plot and the characters. And considering this was the first film Pixar ever made, they did a good job with what they had. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

07-07-2010, 05:06 AM	#53
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Know the feeling Ben. It hit me when I was looking at the movie posters for Toy Story 1 and then 3. The difference was night and day, but WOAH. You wouldn't imagine that the difference would be that much since the characters haven't fundamentally changed, but all the little things add up. Pixar really has come a long way. __________________

07-07-2010, 08:25 AM	#54
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yeah, Pixar has come a long way in terms of animation. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

07-04-2010, 09:48 AM	#42
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Just to share some pics with you guys. The rest of the gang: Those guys at Playskool, can't they get me and my wife's design right? I haven't seen Cars yet cause it seems boring. And they're gonna have a sequel? Why can't we have The Incredibles 2?

07-07-2010, 05:04 AM	#52
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	Who pissed in your Cheerios? I know this is the internet and all but man.. relax. Forgive me if I felt that THIS: Would have felt right at home with THIS:

07-11-2010, 02:23 PM	#55
Samhain Dare To Be Stupid! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 4,752	Well I finally gave in and bought the Toy Story collection Buzz and Woody. Ive been watching reviews of them and they look awesome.