Bullying, cyber or otherwise - Page 3

Jelly Bean · 11-23-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

You're right about that, Katie, but I do think that some bullies are the way they are either because they're insecure about themselves or they've been bullied as well and want to get back at others by stooping to that level. The whole peer pressure thing is definitely a factor as well though.

Actually I read some where that "bullies have low esteem" is mostly a myth. Most Bullies have very HIGH oppinions of themselves to the point of being arrogant and cocky that when someone isn't as wonderful as they are they react with contempt.

*shuriken* · 11-24-2010, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jelly Bean

Actually I read some where that "bullies have low esteem" is mostly a myth. Most Bullies have very HIGH oppinions of themselves to the point of being arrogant and cocky that when someone isn't as wonderful as they are they react with contempt.

Unfortunately one can never overgeneralize these sorts of things. One kid's a bully out of contempt to his lesser counterpart, another out of spite and jealousy. Shame

*BubblyShell22* · 11-30-2010, 09:30 AM

I think with each situation it's different. Some bullies think they're better than others and love to tease the ones who aren't cool. Others have been bullied themselves and want to take it out on others. And some are just insecure and want to "fit in" with people so they bully if they see others doing it. It just varies. But it's still sad and should be stopped.

Lynn · 01-07-2011, 07:19 PM

I don't think anything has changed as far as cruelty. Kids have the Internet now to harass and bully, and I believe it's just another outlet for bullying.

*BubblyShell22* · 01-09-2011, 05:23 PM

Yes, and that's a sad thing.

~~Ninja Turtles 25 Years~~ · 03-27-2011, 06:00 PM

I believe bullying has many variety to the reasons. My lengthy experiences have me believe that the cause of bullying is by: low selfesteem, jealousy, bad home lives, something they pick up from what they watch on TV, or those who think they're better than others, and too much freedom. Here's some experiences I dealt with from each bully type I know about:

Jealousy: I got a student of the month award my first month in middle school for helping out a disabled girl in PE sports with 5 other kids. For two months this Mexican kid kept on calling me names along with "...of the month." Some were: "Nerd of the month" "Geek of the month" "Loser of the month" "Dork of the month." Two months of that, and I had enough. I found this punk waiting in a crowd with the other 6th graders waiting to get into school before school, and I turned around away from him and he had enough of me being better than him and it turned into a fist fight, resulting in the both of us getting in-school suspension. So in the long run doing something good for someone to get me that reward resulted in a punishement. I was able to amount to something and he couldn't. He's the loser, and he damn well knew it.

Broken Home: This one punk, and he was on my case between grade 8 - grade 12. I never knew why he and his stupid jerk friends targeted me to be picked on. Rumor around the school was that his father was mean drunken son of a you-know-what. And he also was into some nasty things like "Bevis and Butthead" type stuff. He was a pro at reacting to some of the vial material from terrible TV programs. I know some people targeted me, including my own relatives, and I think it was my reaction. They smiled and laughed obnoxiously at me and continued on.

Too much freedom: It was the day before I started 5th grade and my brother in 8th grade. My brother and I fought terribley a lot, and some were so loud that people around the block were complaining. That one day my brother and I had a terrible fight that nearly had him throwing a wooden chair at me. Luckily my dad came at that right moment and broke it up before I took a hit. Another time and it was the last time my dad (same as his step father) ever saw him is when he was age 16 and my brother demanded a car from my dad. My dad said no because your grades slipped badly in the D- category, and you're out partying too much, you hang out that jerk friend of yours who beats up his father when ever he got drunk. My brother yelled badly at my father and my father didn't take that from him and challenged him to a fight outside. He said if you want to fight me, get outside, anything goes, and you will not beat me down. My brother gave my dad a nasty look, turned around went to his room, the next day he moved out to my mother's and step father's house and that was that. But hey I saw it this way I gained another room (which was bigger), I was at peace, my cats weren't afraid anymore and we were better off without that miserable jerk of a brother of mine who got everything his own way, got all the neat high-quality stuff, picking on his 3 1/2 year difference brother. Yet at my mother's place, he got the car, he kept his teen rebel behavior. Thank God my brother grew out of that after he left high school and college straightened him up.

Putting down others who seem weaker and less cool: PE class when the teams had to pick their members and I was the last one, the two sides pushed me back and forth like a pinball machine because they both didn't want me. I wasn't in to sport and I will admit I wasn't good at it, because I was into science and computers. Besides it's just PE sports and so what if you did or didn't win? It's not like you were going for a championship or a trophy or anything. You got your A for showing up in a school uniform, beyond that so what about the sport?

And some other reasons I don't know. A kid kept making these paper footballs shapped like triangles and would make it so solid and would aim for my eyes. Luckily he always missed. Some other kid, a much bigger kid would shine his laser pointer in my eyes. Middle fingers would go up, the name calling. Just name it and I got it. Even one of my teachers used this one name, I won't say it, and then it spread around the school. Everything that bothered me spread around the school. Now the only bullying I deal with is on Resident Evil forums, and drive by punks who roll down their windows and shout out nasty words and phrases.

I do feel for those who committ suicide and those who shoot out the place. Don't get me wrong, I don't condone killing anyone. Those who kill themselves got it so badly and no one would do anything about it. The teachers in these schools are too wimpy on the bully subject, and perhaps the parents have tried what they could do and nothing results.

I will admit when all else fails you HAVE to fight back as your last resort. Take this one kid who showed up on the news last week. Two Austrailian 4th graders (a skinny (bully) against a heavy boy (victime)), one kid is bouncing around the other kid punching him in the face, punches him again, then this victime who claims the school didn't do anything to stop this bullying for 4 years had enough, powered back the skinny kid involving body slamming him on the pavement and swearing back. The bully's buddies are getting the whole thing recorded. The bully is last seen limping. It gets worse, the real bully twists the whole situation around by lying saying the other kid was the bully by egging on. I hate it when a bully is caught and they minipulate the situation with lies to make his victime the bad guy. They are committed bullies by doing this. Looking at the skinny boy, he definately looks like a bully and a liar type.

PS: Sorry for being so long-winded here. When it comes to bullies, I do have a lot to say.

*Hannah* · 03-27-2011, 08:32 PM

Don't get me wrong, I do not condone bullying, but how does anyone LOOK like a "bully and a liar type"? Stop being so judgmental.

And really, Beavis and Butthead is nasty? Go back to grade school.

*Powder* · 03-27-2011, 08:56 PM

To me, you seem no better than them. "This mexican kid" for instance, you say that as if that's his flaw.

11-30-2010, 09:30 AM	#43
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I think with each situation it's different. Some bullies think they're better than others and love to tease the ones who aren't cool. Others have been bullied themselves and want to take it out on others. And some are just insecure and want to "fit in" with people so they bully if they see others doing it. It just varies. But it's still sad and should be stopped. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

01-09-2011, 05:23 PM	#45
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yes, and that's a sad thing. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

03-27-2011, 08:32 PM	#47
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Don't get me wrong, I do not condone bullying, but how does anyone LOOK like a "bully and a liar type"? Stop being so judgmental. And really, Beavis and Butthead is nasty? Go back to grade school. __________________

01-07-2011, 07:19 PM	#44
Lynn Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 269	I don't think anything has changed as far as cruelty. Kids have the Internet now to harass and bully, and I believe it's just another outlet for bullying.

03-27-2011, 06:00 PM	#46
~~Ninja Turtles 25 Years~~ Temp Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 225	I believe bullying has many variety to the reasons. My lengthy experiences have me believe that the cause of bullying is by: low selfesteem, jealousy, bad home lives, something they pick up from what they watch on TV, or those who think they're better than others, and too much freedom. Here's some experiences I dealt with from each bully type I know about: Jealousy: I got a student of the month award my first month in middle school for helping out a disabled girl in PE sports with 5 other kids. For two months this Mexican kid kept on calling me names along with "...of the month." Some were: "Nerd of the month" "Geek of the month" "Loser of the month" "Dork of the month." Two months of that, and I had enough. I found this punk waiting in a crowd with the other 6th graders waiting to get into school before school, and I turned around away from him and he had enough of me being better than him and it turned into a fist fight, resulting in the both of us getting in-school suspension. So in the long run doing something good for someone to get me that reward resulted in a punishement. I was able to amount to something and he couldn't. He's the loser, and he damn well knew it. Broken Home: This one punk, and he was on my case between grade 8 - grade 12. I never knew why he and his stupid jerk friends targeted me to be picked on. Rumor around the school was that his father was mean drunken son of a you-know-what. And he also was into some nasty things like "Bevis and Butthead" type stuff. He was a pro at reacting to some of the vial material from terrible TV programs. I know some people targeted me, including my own relatives, and I think it was my reaction. They smiled and laughed obnoxiously at me and continued on. Too much freedom: It was the day before I started 5th grade and my brother in 8th grade. My brother and I fought terribley a lot, and some were so loud that people around the block were complaining. That one day my brother and I had a terrible fight that nearly had him throwing a wooden chair at me. Luckily my dad came at that right moment and broke it up before I took a hit. Another time and it was the last time my dad (same as his step father) ever saw him is when he was age 16 and my brother demanded a car from my dad. My dad said no because your grades slipped badly in the D- category, and you're out partying too much, you hang out that jerk friend of yours who beats up his father when ever he got drunk. My brother yelled badly at my father and my father didn't take that from him and challenged him to a fight outside. He said if you want to fight me, get outside, anything goes, and you will not beat me down. My brother gave my dad a nasty look, turned around went to his room, the next day he moved out to my mother's and step father's house and that was that. But hey I saw it this way I gained another room (which was bigger), I was at peace, my cats weren't afraid anymore and we were better off without that miserable jerk of a brother of mine who got everything his own way, got all the neat high-quality stuff, picking on his 3 1/2 year difference brother. Yet at my mother's place, he got the car, he kept his teen rebel behavior. Thank God my brother grew out of that after he left high school and college straightened him up. Putting down others who seem weaker and less cool: PE class when the teams had to pick their members and I was the last one, the two sides pushed me back and forth like a pinball machine because they both didn't want me. I wasn't in to sport and I will admit I wasn't good at it, because I was into science and computers. Besides it's just PE sports and so what if you did or didn't win? It's not like you were going for a championship or a trophy or anything. You got your A for showing up in a school uniform, beyond that so what about the sport? And some other reasons I don't know. A kid kept making these paper footballs shapped like triangles and would make it so solid and would aim for my eyes. Luckily he always missed. Some other kid, a much bigger kid would shine his laser pointer in my eyes. Middle fingers would go up, the name calling. Just name it and I got it. Even one of my teachers used this one name, I won't say it, and then it spread around the school. Everything that bothered me spread around the school. Now the only bullying I deal with is on Resident Evil forums, and drive by punks who roll down their windows and shout out nasty words and phrases. I do feel for those who committ suicide and those who shoot out the place. Don't get me wrong, I don't condone killing anyone. Those who kill themselves got it so badly and no one would do anything about it. The teachers in these schools are too wimpy on the bully subject, and perhaps the parents have tried what they could do and nothing results. I will admit when all else fails you HAVE to fight back as your last resort. Take this one kid who showed up on the news last week. Two Austrailian 4th graders (a skinny (bully) against a heavy boy (victime)), one kid is bouncing around the other kid punching him in the face, punches him again, then this victime who claims the school didn't do anything to stop this bullying for 4 years had enough, powered back the skinny kid involving body slamming him on the pavement and swearing back. The bully's buddies are getting the whole thing recorded. The bully is last seen limping. It gets worse, the real bully twists the whole situation around by lying saying the other kid was the bully by egging on. I hate it when a bully is caught and they minipulate the situation with lies to make his victime the bad guy. They are committed bullies by doing this. Looking at the skinny boy, he definately looks like a bully and a liar type. PS: Sorry for being so long-winded here. When it comes to bullies, I do have a lot to say.

03-27-2011, 08:56 PM	#48
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,955	To me, you seem no better than them. "This mexican kid" for instance, you say that as if that's his flaw.