For All the Naysayers, TMNT is going to be on XBOX... - Page 3

SlayerX · 05-22-2003, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Elite5Raph

You guys are killing me.. XBox has nothing on the Gamecube except hard drive space? That really makes me think that you haven't even been near an XBox. I sat in EB a few days ago with my buds talking to an employee for a good hour or so talking about the next gen systems, trust me guys, this dude was like the Brodie (Mallrats) of video games. XBox IS the most powerful, AND the nicest looking system. Metroid Prime, sure, that was impressive, but go download the Halo 2 demo and tell me that that doesn't impress you. I really dare you to. Oh, and all you people that claim that you'd rather wait for a game to hit the PC than get an XBox, well...Look at the screen shots of the XBox version of Halo, and then the PC version, and tell me they look exactly the same. Now bare in mind people that I own both a Gamecube and an XBox, and I've got a couple of the same games for both systems just for comparison.. Believe me when I say that there WILL be a difference in how these games look. And XBox will no doubt be superior. However, the game play and controls are what I'm interested in seeing.

Why would you want to spend like $50 for an xbox game, and then $50 for the same game for gamecube. Well you want to compare, but why dont you go rent them and save like $45 or whatever? And about the PC/xbox version of Halo, wow, thats one game. If it was up to me i'd rather save $300 from buying an xbox, games, all that other stuff, and just buy a game, maybe not as good, yet still the same title, on my computer... Who really cares if one systems graphics in the same freakin game are better than another one?! I dont sit there and compare the pixels or whatever the hell their called in a damn game!

**Karpo_007** · 05-22-2003, 11:57 AM

It is a fact the xbox has the best visuals compared to other consoles. But a GOOD PC is always far superior not least beacuse of the resolution.

SlayerX · 05-22-2003, 12:02 PM

This is a tiny bit off topic, but with all of these new games coming out like NHL2004 and stuff, and them being online compatible, do you think that computer sales are going to slowly drop, or are they already? Also, is it confirmed if this TMNT game is gonna be online, cuz I hope so, one more reason to buy the online adaptor

I'm gonna get one for NHL2004 for PS2, but I need more reasons / games

**Karpo_007** · 05-22-2003, 12:06 PM

I dobt it, it's a 2 player game online possibility would go to waste.

Krangfan · 05-22-2003, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Elite5Raph

You guys are killing me.. XBox has nothing on the Gamecube except hard drive space? That really makes me think that you haven't even been near an XBox. I sat in EB a few days ago with my buds talking to an employee for a good hour or so talking about the next gen systems, trust me guys, this dude was like the Brodie (Mallrats) of video games. XBox IS the most powerful, AND the nicest looking system. Metroid Prime, sure, that was impressive, but go download the Halo 2 demo and tell me that that doesn't impress you. I really dare you to. Oh, and all you people that claim that you'd rather wait for a game to hit the PC than get an XBox, well...Look at the screen shots of the XBox version of Halo, and then the PC version, and tell me they look exactly the same. Now bare in mind people that I own both a Gamecube and an XBox, and I've got a couple of the same games for both systems just for comparison.. Believe me when I say that there WILL be a difference in how these games look. And XBox will no doubt be superior. However, the game play and controls are what I'm interested in seeing.

Well put!!! And it's nice to know someone else in the minority (I have Xbox and GCN too, but no PS2)

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-22-2003, 03:09 PM

X-box barely nicks GC in graphics, but it doesn't matter because the GC has a much faster framerate and the graphics are displayed a LOT better...In my opinion the GC has the best system power, especially for it's price... And yes, different consoles have different graphics, who was the one arguing that? I forgot. And Tiptup, if you call me an X-box fan ever again, you'd really better make sure your computer has a warranty, because I won't take that **** from you. I am a GC fan, more so than you in fact. And to the X-box fans, what other game besides Halo is good for X-box? I'd really like to here that, and it has to be exlusive.

SlayerX · 05-22-2003, 03:16 PM

How much does gamecube cost where you live tokka?

*EDIT* oops sent too fast, i meant to add on:

Here in canada it costs $299.99, same as PS2 for sure, and Xbox is probably the same.

Tokka is right, the only GOOD game that to me is the most popular is Halo, and I have heard a ton of ppl say that even Halo sucks cuz it gets boring or something god knows what these Xbox loves see in it

*Dane E5R* · 05-22-2003, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Triceraton

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Originally Posted by Elite5Raph

You guys are killing me.. XBox has nothing on the Gamecube except hard drive space? That really makes me think that you haven't even been near an XBox. I sat in EB a few days ago with my buds talking to an employee for a good hour or so talking about the next gen systems, trust me guys, this dude was like the Brodie (Mallrats) of video games. XBox IS the most powerful, AND the nicest looking system. Metroid Prime, sure, that was impressive, but go download the Halo 2 demo and tell me that that doesn't impress you. I really dare you to. Oh, and all you people that claim that you'd rather wait for a game to hit the PC than get an XBox, well...Look at the screen shots of the XBox version of Halo, and then the PC version, and tell me they look exactly the same. Now bare in mind people that I own both a Gamecube and an XBox, and I've got a couple of the same games for both systems just for comparison.. Believe me when I say that there WILL be a difference in how these games look. And XBox will no doubt be superior. However, the game play and controls are what I'm interested in seeing.

Why would you want to spend like $50 for an xbox game, and then $50 for the same game for gamecube. Well you want to compare, but why dont you go rent them and save like $45 or whatever? And about the PC/xbox version of Halo, wow, thats one game. If it was up to me i'd rather save $300 from buying an xbox, games, all that other stuff, and just buy a game, maybe not as good, yet still the same title, on my computer... Who really cares if one systems graphics in the same freakin game are better than another one?! I dont sit there and compare the pixels or whatever the hell their called in a damn game!

Nobody is comparing pixels.. It's taking one game..Turning it on...Looking...And then taking another game..Turning it on..........And....LOOKING. It's as simple as that. The XBox is mine, and the GC is my brother's. It was his idea to buy the games that I have to prove to me that they wouldn't be any different. He was wrong. I was right. Just as you are wrong, and I am right. And why am I supposed to be naming off exclusive XBox games again? That's irrelevant. I'd rather challenge you to find a game on any other console that has in-game stills (not CGI cut-scenes) that looks better than

http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/h...2/h2_e3_03.jpg
or
http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/h...s/scrn_135.jpg
OR
http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/h...2/h2_e3_01.jpg

Halo gets boring? Halo sucks? Um, I've been playing Halo for over a year now and I STILL get surprised. I STILL hear new things being said by marines and covenant alike. I STILL learn new tricks and STILL see things that I'd never noticed before. I don't know who you've been talking to, but rest assured that they're just as clueless as you are.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-22-2003, 04:14 PM

LoL! Listing exclusive games is irrelevant, but finding stills isn't!

When will you learn that graphics stills don't make the game special, it is the gameplay and cotrol that does. I wanted you to list exclusive X-box games because I wondered if there was any good game besides Halo...I think that is a fair question...

Triceraton, I get can get a GC for $150 at ebgames. At that same store they sell X-box for $180.

Krangfan · 05-22-2003, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokka

I am a GC fan, more so than you in fact. And to the X-box fans, what other game besides Halo is good for X-box? I'd really like to here that, and it has to be exlusive.

ToeJam and Earl III: Mission to Earth. Genesis owners who played the TJ&E games will definitely like this one! AND it's exclusive

That's partly why I love GameCube and Xbox, the Sega Genesis classics. On GameCube we've got the Sonic games and on Xbox, we've got ToeJam and Earl III.

SlayerX · 05-22-2003, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokka

LoL! Listing exclusive games is irrelevant, but finding stills isn't!

When will you learn that graphics stills don't make the game special, it is the gameplay and cotrol that does. I wanted you to list exclusive X-box games because I wondered if there was any good game besides Halo...I think that is a fair question...

Triceraton, I get can get a GC for $150 at ebgames. At that same store they sell X-box for $180.

holy crap, we have to pay double to get a game cube x_x I guess with the conversion from USA to Canadian money it puts it AROUND the same...

Peanut · 05-22-2003, 05:36 PM

X-Box has the hold on the graphics . GC has the hold on the loading times. PS2 has the hold on the amount of games. As for good X-Box exclusive games that will/have made in impact: Halo/Halo 2, Fable, Brute Force, Full Spectrum Warrior, DOA series (I don't like it but lots do), MechAssult, FSRF, Conker Live and Uncut, Perfect Dark Zero, Banjo Kazooie. Personally I don't think the X-Box could ever live up to the GC series of games, Mario and Zelda just kill the entire X-Box line up with the exception of Halo, which is hardly able to hang in there with those two series as it is. Fable would be a tough one to beat as well (if it comes out properly). The TMNT won't have too much of a difference. Most games that are released multi-console at the same time are usually just about if not exactly the same. X-Box and GC won't have as many (or any) of the jaggies the PS2 gives off the majority of the time and GC's FMV (if there is any real FMV in the game) won't look as sharp thanks to compression, but all three should look play and sound the same.

Ninja Tiptup · 05-22-2003, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokka

X-box barely nicks GC in graphics, but it doesn't matter because the GC has a much faster framerate and the graphics are displayed a LOT better...In my opinion the GC has the best system power, especially for it's price... And yes, different consoles have different graphics, who was the one arguing that? I forgot. And Tiptup, if you call me an X-box fan ever again, you'd really better make sure your computer has a warranty, because I won't take that sh** from you. I am a GC fan, more so than you in fact. And to the X-box fans, what other game besides Halo is good for X-box? I'd really like to here that, and it has to be exlusive.

Probably more of a GCN fan (I've yet to get one, but I will eventually), but I doubt your are more of a Nintendo fan than I am. I own every Gameboy ever to make it to the US(I still have my old Toaster grey GB), 41 NES games, pretty much all the Mario series games, and I have been a Nintendo fanboy sense the NES days. I actually go opt to buy old games over the new ones at this point. I've just about run out of games that I want for SNES and N64 though. Plenty more for the NES of course.

Exclusives blah blah blah... BTW I hear (at least in comparrison) Toe Jam and Earl III sucked and Sonic Heros is gonna be on everything anyway.

I have played an Xbox. I just never liked the controller or very many of the games. DOA 3 was fun and Halo 16 player is very enjoyable, but that's about it.

GCN hasn't gotten my attention much as of yet either. Metroid Prime got a little boring for me and I think Zelda is a similar case. I really love Super Smash Bros. Melee, but that's about it for now. I was really dissapointed with Super Mario Sunshine. I had a much more enjoyable experience with Super Mario 64 and pretty much every other Mario series game. When I get a GCN most of my games will probably be third party. TMNT, DBZ: Budokai, and Soul Calibur have really caught my interest and TimeSplitters 2 is a fine FPS. I'll no doubt pick up SSB:M right away, and I'll probably get Mario Kart: Double Dash and Star Fox: Armada and at least check out Metroid Prime 2, FF: Crystal Chronicles, and F-Zero, but all those games wont be coming out yet. So that means it will be a while before I will need a GCN.

Even so the only games I like on PS2 are fighting games and small bunch of RPG's (mainly the ports like CT and FF6). So I don't really need one of those either.

I think GCN has the most potential though and can do anything Xbox can except have a hardrive at this point (it can get online... but Nintendo doesn't really support it).

BTW Triceraton I made those Neo Geo Pocket Color TMNT sprites in your sig. I'm glad you like them though. It's nice to see my art appreciated.

Krangfan · 05-22-2003, 07:57 PM

[quote="Ninja Tiptup"]

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Originally Posted by Tokka

Exclusives blah blah blah... BTW I hear (at least in comparrison) Toe Jam and Earl III sucked and Sonic Heros is gonna be on everything anyway.

NOOO! ToeJam and Earl III is a totally kick ass game! The only reason people didn't like it was 'cause they didn't understand it. The only people who really understand it are the old skool TJ&E fans (such as myself).

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-22-2003, 08:09 PM

Um, I never said that, ninja tiptup did....watch who you quote...

SlayerX · 05-22-2003, 10:10 PM

Hey Elite5Raph read this convo:

*@hotmail.com says:
amazing how when people talk about how good xbox is the only game the can name is "Halo"
*@hotmail.com says:
i used to have an xbox and halo
Ian says:
LOL exactly! thats what were all trying to say, but he cant admit its true
*@hotmail.com says:
halo is a good game
*@hotmail.com says:
but nothing groundbreaking
Ian says:
does it get boring?
*@hotmail.com says:
nothing to make me kiss microsofts ass
*@hotmail.com says:
not really

I put a star in for his name so you dont add him and do god knows what. also, last time me (and 3 quarters of the technodrome) check, these are the results of the main poll on the technodrome page:

Technodrome
Poll - May
Which of the current video game consoles do you own?

PlayStation 2
23% / 46 ppl

GameCube
21% / 42 ppl

Xbox
4% / 8 ppl

PlayStation 2 and GameCube
17% / 34 ppl

PlayStation 2 and Xbox
5% / 10 ppl

GameCube and Xbox
3% / 6 ppl

All Three
10% / 20 ppl

None
19% 38 ppl

votes: 200

If you look, Ps2 / Xbox, GC / Xbox, and Xbox by itself all have 10 and under ppl voting for it. Now either the numbers are so low because ppl go out and rent an xbox whenever they want to play it, or xbox just plain sucks (as about 75% of the internet has been sayig ever since it was released)

Ninja Tiptup · 05-22-2003, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Krangfan

NOOO! ToeJam and Earl III is a totally kick ass game! The only reason people didn't like it was 'cause they didn't understand it. The only people who really understand it are the old skool TJ&E fans (such as myself).

Well if an old skool fan likes it then I guess it isn't as bad as they say. Or maybe it is and you just like it. Either way if you like it then play it. Simple as that.

Don't scold him Tokka it was a simple mistake with the BBCode.

Peanut · 05-22-2003, 11:25 PM

Triceratron that is nothing but worthless pointless bashing. Your opinion means absolutley nothing to me now. The fact of the matter is in the coming months GCN will begin to slide thanks to Nintendo screwing over all of us hardcore fans and focusing on stupid GBA/GCN hook-ups rather than creating new games based on everyones favorite franchises or new franchises. As much as it pains me to say it I can see Nintendo slowly slipping down past X-Box. Mario Kart and F-Zero are all well and good, but I need something BIG to look forward to. They could have at least mentioned Super Mario 128 or a new SSB. Instead they go crazy over a boring Pac-Man game! The fact that most people are too blinded by the fanboyism or just too plain immature to realize that Halo WAS a groundbreaking game and IS the best FPS ever made really makes me sick. Fanboyish comments will get you nowhere in a hurry. Don't say I'm an X-Box fanboy either because I've been playing Nintendo systems since I was two years old. Nintendo has and always will be top of my list, but bashing other systems that DON'T suck and other games that AREN'T bad is just plain stupid.

**Karpo_007** · 05-23-2003, 01:30 AM

Nintendo has been that way since N64. I was really disapointed when N64 had only one real Mario game, NES had 3 and SNES had 2. It's weird that if Super MArio 128 is really in development, why they didn't mention it in E3? I would also like to see a realistic looking Zelda game, where you don't play a 10 year old Kid in a disney world. Might be just a dream.

*Dane E5R* · 05-23-2003, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokka

LoL! Listing exclusive games is irrelevant, but finding stills isn't!

When will you learn that graphics stills don't make the game special, it is the gameplay and cotrol that does. I wanted you to list exclusive X-box games because I wondered if there was any good game besides Halo...I think that is a fair question...

Uh, yea. My stills are proving that XBox's graphics do more than "nic" the Gamecube's. What is finding exclusive games doing? Anyway, I think Michaelangelo's list works well enough. Triceraton, that conversation you posted uh, what is it that I'm supposed to be offended by? It looks to me that the guy said that Halo was a good game, and he also said that it didn't get boring. And anyway, since Halo is mentioned so often...Don't you think that kinda means something? There are people that have BOUGHT Xboxes FOR Halo. Don't you think that kinda means something? Do you think at all, or does Tokka have to do all your thinking? I have yet to see you come up with anything intelligent to say. All you do is wait for Tokka to say something, then jump behind him and say "

Yeah, XBox sucks!" Even though you have never played it, or Halo. What does that say about your opinion? Besides the fact that it's void? Right. And what exactly did you expect to prove by posting those poll results? Unless 99.9 percent of the world's population are member's of this forum, that means absolutely nothing, just like everything else you say from this point on.

05-22-2003, 12:02 PM	#43
SlayerX Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 828	This is a tiny bit off topic, but with all of these new games coming out like NHL2004 and stuff, and them being online compatible, do you think that computer sales are going to slowly drop, or are they already? Also, is it confirmed if this TMNT game is gonna be online, cuz I hope so, one more reason to buy the online adaptor I'm gonna get one for NHL2004 for PS2, but I need more reasons / games __________________ Nexus Media \| AnXProduction \| Games \| DVDs DP Feedback \| eBay feedback \| Room of Doom

05-22-2003, 03:16 PM	#47
SlayerX Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 828	How much does gamecube cost where you live tokka? EDIT oops sent too fast, i meant to add on: Here in canada it costs $299.99, same as PS2 for sure, and Xbox is probably the same. Tokka is right, the only GOOD game that to me is the most popular is Halo, and I have heard a ton of ppl say that even Halo sucks cuz it gets boring or something god knows what these Xbox loves see in it __________________ Nexus Media \| AnXProduction \| Games \| DVDs DP Feedback \| eBay feedback \| Room of Doom

05-22-2003, 10:10 PM	#56
SlayerX Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 828	Hey Elite5Raph read this convo: @hotmail.com says: amazing how when people talk about how good xbox is the only game the can name is "Halo" @hotmail.com says: i used to have an xbox and halo Ian says: LOL exactly! thats what were all trying to say, but he cant admit its true @hotmail.com says: halo is a good game @hotmail.com says: but nothing groundbreaking Ian says: does it get boring? @hotmail.com says: nothing to make me kiss microsofts ass @hotmail.com says: not really I put a star in for his name so you dont add him and do god knows what. also, last time me (and 3 quarters of the technodrome) check, these are the results of the main poll on the technodrome page: Technodrome Poll - May Which of the current video game consoles do you own? PlayStation 2 23% / 46 ppl GameCube 21% / 42 ppl Xbox 4% / 8 ppl PlayStation 2 and GameCube 17% / 34 ppl PlayStation 2 and Xbox 5% / 10 ppl GameCube and Xbox 3% / 6 ppl All Three 10% / 20 ppl None 19% 38 ppl votes: 200 If you look, Ps2 / Xbox, GC / Xbox, and Xbox by itself all have 10 and under ppl voting for it. Now either the numbers are so low because ppl go out and rent an xbox whenever they want to play it, or xbox just plain sucks (as about 75% of the internet has been sayig ever since it was released) __________________ Nexus Media \| AnXProduction \| Games \| DVDs DP Feedback \| eBay feedback \| Room of Doom

05-22-2003, 11:57 AM	#42
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	It is a fact the xbox has the best visuals compared to other consoles. But a GOOD PC is always far superior not least beacuse of the resolution.

05-22-2003, 12:06 PM	#44
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I dobt it, it's a 2 player game online possibility would go to waste.

05-22-2003, 03:09 PM	#46
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	X-box barely nicks GC in graphics, but it doesn't matter because the GC has a much faster framerate and the graphics are displayed a LOT better...In my opinion the GC has the best system power, especially for it's price... And yes, different consoles have different graphics, who was the one arguing that? I forgot. And Tiptup, if you call me an X-box fan ever again, you'd really better make sure your computer has a warranty, because I won't take that **** from you. I am a GC fan, more so than you in fact. And to the X-box fans, what other game besides Halo is good for X-box? I'd really like to here that, and it has to be exlusive.

05-22-2003, 04:14 PM	#49
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	LoL! Listing exclusive games is irrelevant, but finding stills isn't! When will you learn that graphics stills don't make the game special, it is the gameplay and cotrol that does. I wanted you to list exclusive X-box games because I wondered if there was any good game besides Halo...I think that is a fair question... Triceraton, I get can get a GC for $150 at ebgames. At that same store they sell X-box for $180.

05-22-2003, 05:36 PM	#52
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	X-Box has the hold on the graphics . GC has the hold on the loading times. PS2 has the hold on the amount of games. As for good X-Box exclusive games that will/have made in impact: Halo/Halo 2, Fable, Brute Force, Full Spectrum Warrior, DOA series (I don't like it but lots do), MechAssult, FSRF, Conker Live and Uncut, Perfect Dark Zero, Banjo Kazooie. Personally I don't think the X-Box could ever live up to the GC series of games, Mario and Zelda just kill the entire X-Box line up with the exception of Halo, which is hardly able to hang in there with those two series as it is. Fable would be a tough one to beat as well (if it comes out properly). The TMNT won't have too much of a difference. Most games that are released multi-console at the same time are usually just about if not exactly the same. X-Box and GC won't have as many (or any) of the jaggies the PS2 gives off the majority of the time and GC's FMV (if there is any real FMV in the game) won't look as sharp thanks to compression, but all three should look play and sound the same.

05-22-2003, 08:09 PM	#55
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Um, I never said that, ninja tiptup did....watch who you quote...

05-22-2003, 11:25 PM	#58
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Triceratron that is nothing but worthless pointless bashing. Your opinion means absolutley nothing to me now. The fact of the matter is in the coming months GCN will begin to slide thanks to Nintendo screwing over all of us hardcore fans and focusing on stupid GBA/GCN hook-ups rather than creating new games based on everyones favorite franchises or new franchises. As much as it pains me to say it I can see Nintendo slowly slipping down past X-Box. Mario Kart and F-Zero are all well and good, but I need something BIG to look forward to. They could have at least mentioned Super Mario 128 or a new SSB. Instead they go crazy over a boring Pac-Man game! The fact that most people are too blinded by the fanboyism or just too plain immature to realize that Halo WAS a groundbreaking game and IS the best FPS ever made really makes me sick. Fanboyish comments will get you nowhere in a hurry. Don't say I'm an X-Box fanboy either because I've been playing Nintendo systems since I was two years old. Nintendo has and always will be top of my list, but bashing other systems that DON'T suck and other games that AREN'T bad is just plain stupid.

05-23-2003, 01:30 AM	#59
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Nintendo has been that way since N64. I was really disapointed when N64 had only one real Mario game, NES had 3 and SNES had 2. It's weird that if Super MArio 128 is really in development, why they didn't mention it in E3? I would also like to see a realistic looking Zelda game, where you don't play a 10 year old Kid in a disney world. Might be just a dream.