The reason why Rick Veitch's stories aren't being collected by IDW

[Venom]

Originally Posted by Abnormal Freak

I can't believe there are actually people outside of corporate offices who don't care about the artist getting his due. This is ridiculous. Veitch wrote and drew those stories, they're his creative property. If he doesn't want to sign over all rights, good for him; hopefully Viacom will strike a proper deal, otherwise just buy the old trade or issues.

IDW's trades suck anyway.

It's not that folks don'twant Rickto get his dues, it's more like "if a deal was found with Dave Sim, then work out something similar with Veitch".

[Keroscene]

The bizarre thing about this is that Eastman, Laird and Veitch were all involved in the creators bill of rights which specifically says creators should have "the right of approval over the reproduction and format of our creative property." So it's a bit weird that they retroactively offered a work-for-hire contract in the first place. The creator bill of rights is completely at odds with work for hire.

It doesn't matter that many of the characters used were created to someone else. The script, the art, the story concept and any original characters within all belong to Veitch. Creator's rights don't just disappear when you work with characters created by someone else.

[mrmaczaps]

so no color classics reprints of his stuff then either huh? gaps... huh. i wonder if they will skip issue numbers...

[liugeaux]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

so no color classics reprints of his stuff then either huh? gaps... huh. i wonder if they will skip issue numbers...

Correct, IDW will completely avoid all of Rick's issues because he still has a percentage stake in the stories. If he's not willing to give that up and Viacom won't budge, they will be skipped in all of the color reprintings. In fact them being skipped can already be seen in the release order of the upcoming Classics Vols. 4 and 5.

[Mewzard]

Originally Posted by Abnormal Freak

I can't believe there are actually people outside of corporate offices who don't care about the artist getting his due. This is ridiculous. Veitch wrote and drew those stories, they're his creative property. If he doesn't want to sign over all rights, good for him; hopefully Viacom will strike a proper deal, otherwise just buy the old trade or issues.

IDW's trades suck anyway.

I've honestly gotta believe it's more that people want to buy his issues, and enjoy them than they don't want him getting his fair share.

Reprinting TMNT in the days before they started asking creators the rights back must have been complicated, given how many creators did odds and ends here and there. Who owns what characters, if they're allowed to use them in stories, and if stories with said characters can't be reprinted due to the character, not the creator of the story.

From a business perspective, it makes sense to want to simplify it for future printings. But, yeah, it's always sad to see how many creators in the comic industry got screwed.

I've talked to a number of comic creators (not about this issue, but their works and such), and many of them are just among the nicest of people and just love talking to fans. Never want to see them not get their due.

That said, I hope a fair deal is worked out, as I want to own Veitch's issues in a nice trade to go with my growing shelf of TMNT.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

What does the trade look like that had this story line in it?

[liugeaux]

Like this:

http://www.miragelicensing.com/comics/books/volsix.html