Old Voice Cast vs. New Voice Cast - Page 3

**Krang** · 06-11-2003, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheShredder

The old Shredder was a joke! Even his voice sounded like he was talking in a voice box! (I'm not bashing the old cartoon here I'm just stateing the facts)

Just wanted to mention that bashing the old cartoon and then saying "I'm not bashing the old cartoon" is still considered bashing.

BTW, you're stating your opinion, not "the facts."

**GK Punk** · 06-11-2003, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheShredder

The old Shredder was a joke! Even his voice sounded like he was talking in a voice box! (I'm not bashing the old cartoon here I'm just stateing the facts)

Aww come on.. it wasn't that bad.. I rather dug the old Shredder!!

I don't know, I really do like both casts, I guess the new voices suit the characters better imo, but the old ones fit that series very well. (especially Raph and I couldn't Imagine Krang having anyother voice)

*Jephael* · 06-11-2003, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Krang

Just wanted to mention that bashing the old cartoon and then saying "I'm not bashing the old cartoon" is still considered bashing.

BTW, you're stating your opinion, not "the facts."

Peter Laird is the same way. He can't stand it when people say "not to be critical" when they actually are being critical.

~~TheShredder~~ · 06-11-2003, 02:31 PM

But the old Shredder is a wuss Compared to the new one! And that's a fact!

Krangfan · 06-11-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShredder

But the old Shredder is a wuss Compared to the new one! And that's a fact!

and that's what I love about him

LOL!

*DrSpengler* · 06-11-2003, 09:33 PM

As far as the character went I thought James Avery did a great job with him.

He was relatively versitile and did a pretty damn good job immitating Mike in "Cowabunga Shredhead". I also loved his whining, "But I don't wanna conquer Dimension X! I wanna conquer Eeeeaaaaaarth!". He could also occasionaly sound menacing, "Tonight I dine on Turtle soup."

He was good for the character at the time when he was portrayed as a bumbling oaf. But no, he wouldn't work for Shredder in the new show.

tormentedvagrant · 06-12-2003, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TheShredder

The old Shredder was a joke! Even his voice sounded like he was talking in a voice box! (I'm not bashing the old cartoon here I'm just stateing the facts)

In referance to the voice box...... there was none, that was the actor (

Uncle Phil

) doing a great job with the charecter. Yes he was a big wussie, Krangs lap dog, he wasn't wussie in the comic but the Krang wasn't in the comic either.

Ghidorah2000 · 06-12-2003, 09:55 AM

Oh great. Another one of these Old vs. New style threads. How original.

How about giving we the faithful of both cartoons an option huh?

Ghidorah2000 · 06-12-2003, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheShredder

But the old Shredder is a wuss Compared to the new one! And that's a fact!

To this statement I have to paste a copy of an extensive PM I sent to a guy who constantly bashes the old cartoon:

I'm curious...
Do you have an involvement with children at all? I mean you constantly put down the 80's cartoon without thinking about what age group they were geering it for. If you do have a son, daughter, neice or nephew or a combination of all of them, I'd think you would appreciate the 80's cartoon more because that is where you get the young ones interested in Ninja Turtles. Case in point: I introduced my neice to the old Transformers and she loves them. Now I'm not saying this is a good thing that she likes Armada but at least she had a starting point to loving Transformers. But I still refuse to show her even the sanitized Rhino Tape (Transformers: The Movie. I think I should have stated thast but it escaped my mind at the time I wrote this PM.) because she's not ready for that kind of intensity. The same can be said about Godzilla movies. As much as I hate the dubbed version of Godzilla's Revenge, my neice and nephews love it so I put up with it because I want them to like Goji films and be able to watch the more intense ones when they're old enough to. There are some Goji fil;ms I will not show my neice or nephews because they are much too scary like most of the Heisei Godzilla movies. I mean Mechagodzilla from Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1970's version) from the Showa era used to give me nightmares as a 5 year old kid. Then there were a few scary episodes from Battle of the Planets like when Princess Aka Jun in Gatchaman was swallowed up by alien pods sent to Earth by the bad guys and a huge scary robot hidden as a giant Indian statue at an amusement park during the day that scared me as a kid too. I can imagine that 2K3 Shredder would have scared me royally when I was 5. Basically what I'm trying to say is that you bash the 80's cartoon without thinking who they were made for. I find that 9 times out of 10 the person who does this has little or no contact with a child below the age of 9. Granted I share your enthusiasm about the new cartoon based on the comics. I love it alot especially episode 17. Very well adapted episode from the Leo One Shot. But I also enjoy the 80's cartoon alot because A.) Some of the episodes are hilarious because of it's campy goofball nature. B.) This is something I can share with my 5 year old nephew and 7 year old neice without scaring them ****less. You can't tell me the amount of violence in the 2K3 cartoon wouldn't scare kids at that age.

InsaneZane · 06-12-2003, 01:55 PM

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This Post should really be a POLL...

Alright, I just added poll.

YES! I made a good impression!
I did good!

*Walks away congradulating himself*

~~TheShredder~~ · 06-12-2003, 05:56 PM

I wasn't bashing the old cartoon I was just saying that Shredder was a wuss in it that's all. Yeah the new Shredder may scare little kids but that's the whole point! He's the villian your supposed to be scared of him! Your talking about 5 year olds watching it. Well the show is rated TVY7! Personally I don't think little kids would be scared of the violence. When I was a little kid I was mad the cartoon didn't have enough violence! There ninjas damnit! They should be kicking ass not making jokes! It's not like I hate the old cartoon. I like it. I grew up watching it. I just like the new one better! This is the show I wish I had on when I was a Kid!

Jinxer · 06-13-2003, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

But I wonder how Raph has a Brooklyn accent but none of theother turtles do. I also wonder why they don't have Japanese accents liek Splinter since he's the one who raised them. Hmmmm...

Yeah, that Brooklyn accent thing drives me batty at times. It makes Raph sound like a forty-something year old construction worker with a beer gut! As much as I love Rob Paulsen, his Raph wouldn't work very well for this show. If only there could be some happy medium that could make Raph sound both tough and like a teenager...

Ghidorah2000 · 06-14-2003, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinxer

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

But I wonder how Raph has a Brooklyn accent but none of theother turtles do. I also wonder why they don't have Japanese accents liek Splinter since he's the one who raised them. Hmmmm...

Yeah, that Brooklyn accent thing drives me batty at times. It makes Raph sound like a forty-something year old construction worker with a beer gut! As much as I love Rob Paulsen, his Raph wouldn't work very well for this show. If only there could be some happy medium that could make Raph sound both tough and like a teenager...

Excuse me. I live far up North from New York City in the state of New York itself and I have an accent with which I can turn on and off at will. I also acquired a bit of a Welsh accent from a friend I had ages ago who used to be our pastor's daughter at the church we used to attend. But anyways, I think it has been hinted numerous times that the turtles are not blood related brothers but brothers in an adopted sense. I mean it could be possible that they are different breeds of turtles too. I think the different accents also lend to a sense of uniqueness for each turtle that is indicative of their personalities. There ain't nothin' wrong with that bub.

*Mars-Chan* · 06-18-2003, 10:34 AM

Is it just me or does one of the turtles from the old cast sound like the guy who does the voice for Razor on the "Swat Kats"?

Ghidorah2000 · 06-18-2003, 11:27 AM

Are you referring to the old turtles cartoon because I noticed the guy that did 80's Donny was in Swat Kats. I mean the voice is not that hard to recognize eh?

*Cascadia* · 06-18-2003, 11:30 PM

they are both good casts.....differences in what decade it was casted makes them interesting to listen to.

*Mars-Chan* · 06-19-2003, 09:06 AM

Yeah, I am referring to the old cast. I was listening to some stuff I had downloaded the other day from the old show and I was like "WAIT a minute! Hold on! I must be going mad! I swore I heard Jake a second ago! Weird!"

Silver Turtle · 06-19-2003, 02:56 PM

I really like the new voice cast. And you can't expect all of them to be perfect at the voicing. Raph sounds too rough, Don sounds girlish at times, and as for Leo and Mikey, I'm still looking for faults.

As for the old voice cast, I was too young and barely remember it so I can't really say anything about it.

Ryan · 06-23-2003, 10:45 AM

Well, I have to say that I am very happy with the new voices. The majority of the Turtles do sound they way "I want them" too...heh. The new people sound pretty similar to the originals... I only wish people like Cam Clarke or James Avery could of came back... I know that Cam is still an active voice over guy... The only person I have a problem with is the Shredder's "regular" voice. He does not seem to be Asian anymore... April is good, not really a fan of her not being a newscaster, though...

Ryan

InsaneZane · 06-24-2003, 10:15 AM

Yeah! Cam Clarke rules!
Leonardo and Rocksteady in TMNT... He-Man in MOTU... and Liquid Snake and Master Miller in MGS and MGS2:SOL!!!
he's even Simba in some versions of the Lion King.

Cam Clarke is cool!

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06-12-2003, 09:55 AM	#48
Ghidorah2000 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Monster Island Posts: 189	Oh great. Another one of these Old vs. New style threads. How original. How about giving we the faithful of both cartoons an option huh? __________________ Tom Servo: It's just a simple matter of "What the h* is going on?!"**

06-18-2003, 10:34 AM	#54
Mars-Chan I'LL BE THE HERO!!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Practicing Alchemy in Risembool Posts: 6,297	Is it just me or does one of the turtles from the old cast sound like the guy who does the voice for Razor on the "Swat Kats"? __________________ clings to award THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!! cries in joy RED DAAAAAAAAAAAAWWN!!!! PROUD Member of the Risembool Rangers! (icon made by bakergirl69 on glitter-graphics)

06-18-2003, 11:27 AM	#55
Ghidorah2000 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Monster Island Posts: 189	Are you referring to the old turtles cartoon because I noticed the guy that did 80's Donny was in Swat Kats. I mean the voice is not that hard to recognize eh? __________________ Tom Servo: It's just a simple matter of "What the h* is going on?!"**

06-18-2003, 11:30 PM	#56
Cascadia Oregonian in heart & soul Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,731	they are both good casts.....differences in what decade it was casted makes them interesting to listen to. __________________ Formally known as Scientific freak

06-19-2003, 09:06 AM	#57
Mars-Chan I'LL BE THE HERO!!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Practicing Alchemy in Risembool Posts: 6,297	Yeah, I am referring to the old cast. I was listening to some stuff I had downloaded the other day from the old show and I was like "WAIT a minute! Hold on! I must be going mad! I swore I heard Jake a second ago! Weird!" __________________ clings to award THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!! cries in joy RED DAAAAAAAAAAAAWWN!!!! PROUD Member of the Risembool Rangers! (icon made by bakergirl69 on glitter-graphics)

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06-11-2003, 02:31 PM	#44
~~TheShredder~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: My Throne Room Posts: 442	But the old Shredder is a wuss Compared to the new one! And that's a fact!

06-11-2003, 09:33 PM	#46
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	As far as the character went I thought James Avery did a great job with him. He was relatively versitile and did a pretty damn good job immitating Mike in "Cowabunga Shredhead". I also loved his whining, "But I don't wanna conquer Dimension X! I wanna conquer Eeeeaaaaaarth!". He could also occasionaly sound menacing, "Tonight I dine on Turtle soup." He was good for the character at the time when he was portrayed as a bumbling oaf. But no, he wouldn't work for Shredder in the new show.

06-12-2003, 05:56 PM	#51
~~TheShredder~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: My Throne Room Posts: 442	I wasn't bashing the old cartoon I was just saying that Shredder was a wuss in it that's all. Yeah the new Shredder may scare little kids but that's the whole point! He's the villian your supposed to be scared of him! Your talking about 5 year olds watching it. Well the show is rated TVY7! Personally I don't think little kids would be scared of the violence. When I was a little kid I was mad the cartoon didn't have enough violence! There ninjas damnit! They should be kicking ass not making jokes! It's not like I hate the old cartoon. I like it. I grew up watching it. I just like the new one better! This is the show I wish I had on when I was a Kid!

06-19-2003, 02:56 PM	#58
Silver Turtle Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 102	I really like the new voice cast. And you can't expect all of them to be perfect at the voicing. Raph sounds too rough, Don sounds girlish at times, and as for Leo and Mikey, I'm still looking for faults. As for the old voice cast, I was too young and barely remember it so I can't really say anything about it. __________________ I like the color silver.

06-23-2003, 10:45 AM	#59
Ryan Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South Bend Posts: 113	Well, I have to say that I am very happy with the new voices. The majority of the Turtles do sound they way "I want them" too...heh. The new people sound pretty similar to the originals... I only wish people like Cam Clarke or James Avery could of came back... I know that Cam is still an active voice over guy... The only person I have a problem with is the Shredder's "regular" voice. He does not seem to be Asian anymore... April is good, not really a fan of her not being a newscaster, though... Ryan __________________ I heart Turtles. Wakka Wakka Wakka!

06-24-2003, 10:15 AM	#60
InsaneZane Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Silent Hill Posts: 1,198	Yeah! Cam Clarke rules! Leonardo and Rocksteady in TMNT... He-Man in MOTU... and Liquid Snake and Master Miller in MGS and MGS2:SOL!!! he's even Simba in some versions of the Lion King. Cam Clarke is cool! Birthday: November 6, 1957 Birth Place: Burbank, California USA Age: 45 __________________