William Fichtner interview. Names Shredder.

[Andrew NDB]

We all knew this was coming.

And Shrader BECOMES Shredder in that leaked script. If he says he's playing "Shredder" but is, in fact, Colonel Shrader, he's still not lying.

[redsai4lex]

Good Actor... I'm not so sure about him as Shredder yet, but for a non-Japanese-oriented TMNT movie, it might turn out ok... I guess we'll have to find out.

[ToTheNines]

I don't. ****ing. Get it.

[CyberCubed]

People aren't realizing yet why a white Shredder is awful:

- It changes Shredder's race for one thing. His name is obviously not going to be Oroku Saki anymore. Can you imagine a white man with the name Oroku Saki?

- Splinter will officially have no ties to Shredder or the Foot. The whole point of the franchise was Splinter/Shredder's rivalry and the Foot Clan. If the Foot are a military unit then what the hell do they have to do with Splinter and the Turtles?

- Instead of the Turtles being ninja's fighting ninja's, they're fighting a military unit and their white commander.

- Shredder simply isn't Shredder anymore. Even in 4kids the Utrom Shredder still pretended to be Oroku Saki for 3 seasons.

[hitmonkey]

I'm putting money on "white guy who adopted Japanese culture" and took the name "Oroku Saki".

[Andrew NDB]

Sounds like a lot of concessions need to be made to accommodate Michael Bay's friend as Shredder. Concessions they wouldn't need to make if they just casted a respectable Japanese/can-pass-for-Japanese actor.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So Shredder is white and not Japanese confirmed. I'm done with this movie.

lolololololololololololol

[CyberCubed]

Judging by how different the Foot look in this movie compared to how they usually do, I wouldn't be surprised if Shredder doesn't wear any armor at all.

He probably will look exactly like a Colonel. Seriously, why the hell would they change Shredder like this? It makes absolutely zero sense.

[Gwydion]

Well, this is... disappointing. Oh well, can't say I'm surprised, but at least it's official so no more guessing.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Vi11AiN6

The ONLY way they can make this turd shine is if Oruko Saki is played by an Asian actor, get burned/disfigured and Fitchner plays and voices Shredder in costume only.

Y'know the only way I could see this possibly working is if they took a cue from the Nickleodeon show were Saki's entire face is scarred.

Even then I don't think Fichtner really has the right "presence" to pull off most versions of the Shredder. Even if he did it's still questionable form to cast him in a part that should have someone at least of asian descent.

Realisticaly though I think we're getting Col. Schrader and the best we can hope for is that the alien aspect has been written out. It'd still be stupid but marginaly better.

[beardcore84]

God TMNT fans are the worst. It makes me ashamed to be a fan of TMNT.

If you want the old origin story GO READ THE OLD COMICS!!!!!

If you want the old origin story GO WATCH THE FIRST MOVIE!!!!!

God forbid someone does something different with the characters!!!

Why on earth someone would want to be told the same story over and over and over again is absolutely beyond my comprehension....

smh

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by beardcore84

God TMNT fans are the worst. It makes me ashamed to be a fan of TMNT.

If you want the old origin story GO READ THE OLD COMICS!!!!!

If you want the old origin story GO WATCH THE FIRST MOVIE!!!!!

God forbid someone does something different with the characters!!!

Why on earth someone would want to be told the same story over and over and over again is absolutely beyond my comprehension....

smh

A load of garbage. Wanting to see a different story is not the same as the main villain changed to be something unrecognizable.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by beardcore84

God TMNT fans are the worst. It makes me ashamed to be a fan of TMNT.

If you want the old origin story GO READ THE OLD COMICS!!!!!

If you want the old origin story GO WATCH THE FIRST MOVIE!!!!!

God forbid someone does something different with the characters!!!

Why on earth someone would want to be told the same story over and over and over again is absolutely beyond my comprehension....

smh

Yeah because we're the only fandom that would be disapointed with a change like this. Star Wars fans would love it if the new movie rebooted Vader as Shader an evil Ewok with retractable claws or Spider-Man fans getting a kick out of the new version of Norman Osbourne who is a barman who happens to secretly be a mischievous sprite from the Goblin Dimension.

We all accept that there has to be changes when you adapt an established franchise into a different medium but if you're going to play so fast and loose with the very basics then why work with the established franchise at all? Why not make an orignal movie?

[Lord Nightwalker]

Originally Posted by beardcore84

God TMNT fans are the worst. It makes me ashamed to be a fan of TMNT.

If you want the old origin story GO READ THE OLD COMICS!!!!!

If you want the old origin story GO WATCH THE FIRST MOVIE!!!!!

God forbid someone does something different with the characters!!!

Why on earth someone would want to be told the same story over and over and over again is absolutely beyond my comprehension....

smh

No. What I want is justice done to the property, even a good reinvention would be acceptable. The info leaked previously is neither good, or acceptable.
That's my biggest hang up. I want a good TMNT film.
And to me that means an awesome story about four biologicaly transmutated chelonians raised by their rat shidoshi as a family of Ninja who stomp the begevus out of an evil clan of ninja who use their perversion of the art to appease their ruthlessly coldhearted master, the Shredder.
How they get from point a to point b is just as important as the charachters man. Liberties can be taken and still remain TRUE TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL. Is that so much to ask for? Even the Nick toon hits mostly the right notes, so why can't hollywood?
This would be like Zach fn' ron being cast as Batman tomorrow. Unacceptable.

[Ninjinister]

Of all of the potentially negative things confirmed about this film, this seems to be the silliest one for people to freak out over.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

A load of garbage..

Which is the content of pretty much every one of your posts.

[Zulithe]

I'm not liking this simply because I don't like seeing black or asian characters from other source materials such as books or comics turned into white characters for the film versions. There's a long history of this and it's really not necessary with the wealth and breadth of talent that's out there.

It's not just his skincolor though, obviously Shredder's ethnicity and country of origin do tie into the plot in non-trivial ways. It's definitely a big departure. They'd better have a good reason for this. But judging by Platinum Dune's previous work I have very low expectations.

Maybe it's a Ducard/Ra's kind of thing? O.o

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by beardcore84

God TMNT fans are the worst. It makes me ashamed to be a fan of TMNT.

If you want the old origin story GO READ THE OLD COMICS!!!!!

If you want the old origin story GO WATCH THE FIRST MOVIE!!!!!

God forbid someone does something different with the characters!!!

Why on earth someone would want to be told the same story over and over and over again is absolutely beyond my comprehension....

smh

So, when the lack Panther movie comes it, it is totally okay to have him be played by a white actor?

Cause who wants the old stuff, where he is a native African.

Originally Posted by Zulithe

Maybe it's a Ducard/Ra's kind of thing? O.o

Shredder and Oroku Saki could be separate characters, Saki controlling things in the shadows and whoever dons the costume or persona The Shredder is his Tatsu/Hun.

[Zulithe]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Shredder and Oroku Saki could be separate characters, Saki controlling things in the shadows and whoever dons the costume or persona The Shredder is his Tatsu/Hun.

It does fit but we've already seen this kind of approach in Iron Man 3 as well as in Nolan's Bat films. The last thing we need is yet another interpretation of this trope that is still very fresh in the minds of the audience from these other blockbusters. Hell they even used it in The Avengers for those that watched the after-credits bonus scene, although at least there the argument is made that Loki is a real threat and not just a puppet. But will Fichtner's Shredder be?

As much as I don't want this to be what's happening, I'm actually not sure which is worse: yet another rehash of The Man Behind The Man trope or the whitewashing of TMNT's most iconic villain so yeah, either way it's a loss to me.

I'm not hard to please. Honest! I even loved Man Of Steel.

[NYShell]

I hate that William Ficthner is playing the Shredder. I HATE it. Why a white guy as Shredder? There probably won't be any ninja influence with the Foot. (Ficthner is an amazing actor, but him being the Shredder is wrong in every way) What's happening with this movie?

[Tazi]

If they're really making this based on the Fred Wolf cartoon, it's kinda makes sense to turn the foot into an army, and Shredder into a colonel. But I don't think we need a "gritty reboot" of the Fred Wolf series at all, and I don't think they should change Shredder that much. Seriously, Ninjas was one of the coolest things about TMNT, who the hell thought it would be wise to erase it?

But my main concern is still about the crew, who works on the movie. Nolan's Batman movies also changed a lot of things, had a ******** of logical errors and plotholes, but they were still able to get it right, and at the end it was quiet a enjoyable ride. I'm afraid the same won't be happen with this "Ninja Turtles" or whatever they decided to call it.