Why is Raph pretty much the main character in all the films?

[Raphaeline]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm sorry, for some reason I simply can't visualize the Turtles fully retracting into their shells as looking like anything but the cheesiest thing ever. I'unno.

I agree. I would hate to see that. I was already a bit shocked to see Mikey doing this in the Nick show, so seeing that with adult-sized turtles supposed to look more "serious" and "badass" would just look really, really strange.

And for Raph "in reality" who would be rude with women, we can't generalize. Of course fangirls don't imagine him being rude with women. He's a fictionnal character so you can imagine anything. (for example my father is the angry type, a bit like Raph, and he can be very tender with my mother. So angry men are not always the type to brutalize weaker people!) usually we see that it's more the weak-looking guys (who feel frustrated at work, or compared to the other men) who tend to beat their wife because they want to feel strong at least at home. Raph is already strong, he doesn't need to proove it in such a pathetic way.

Of course the fangirls think that as a lover he would be a real volcano, passionate, etc. We could see in the 2K3 series (with the cats, the blind grandma, his way to always care for his brothers) that when he is not fighting and not with his brothers, he has a very soft side. I think he would be the caring and overprotective type

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by pingclang

Right, because a stick up his ass, emotionless drone makes for such a better, more identifiable lead.

None of the other turtles are 'emotionless drone' like you described. But then again, an emotionless drone might be a way better character than a pissy fit Raphael going on a cliche bitch rage all the time (4 movies now).

[Luigiperps]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

well...I didn't know there was a second movie.......XD

I thought there was only one TMNT live action movie at first

the first TMNT movie I watched was...2007 TMNT :3

so now...I gonna go watch the third one!! (I wanna watch them all before the new one comes out)

The first tmnt thing I ever saw was Turtles Forever. Then the first two live action movies. (I fell asleep during the third one because it was 2 in the morning) so my tmnt movie history is much more wonky than yours.

[pingclang]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

None of the other turtles are 'emotionless drone' like you described. But then again, an emotionless drone might be a way better character than a pissy fit Raphael going on a cliche bitch rage all the time (4 movies now).

It's easier to write a character with realistic, human flaws than one whose primary flaw is that he can't get his head far enough up his sensei`s ass. We can throw insults and arguments all day, but we can all identify with the flawed, imperfect guy who has realistic issues.

[Sage Ninja]

Originally Posted by pingclang

It's easier to write a character with realistic, human flaws than one whose primary flaw is that he can't get his head far enough up his sensei`s ass.

Oh my God shut up, there is so much more to Leonardo than the goody two shoes, teachers pet, perfectionists fans others fans like to make him out to be. Those characteristics have really been flanderized in some mediums as being what he is and that so far from the truth. He has a lot more depth and flaws than that that are interesting without resorting to the cliché "angry loner rebel" stereotype. Go pick up the mirage comics and see for your self.

[Leo656]

I'm shocked it took until Page 3 for it to end up here.

[pingclang]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

Oh my God shut up, there is so much more to Leonardo than the goody two shoes, teachers pet, perfectionists fans others fans like to make him out to be. Those characteristics have really been flanderized in some mediums as being what he is and that so far from the truth. He has a lot more depth and flaws than that that are interesting without resorting to the cliché "angry loner rebel" stereotype. Go pick up the mirage comics and see for your self.

I'm through arguing. I know there is some depth to Leonardo, that isn't the point I was trying to make. Any writer can latch on to a character with real, human flaws, which Raph has plenty of, that they can identify with and the viewer in turn, do the same. That's why he gets so much screen time and that's the point that I was trying to make.

[allie300]

I don't identify with Raph..at all,I find the angry loner routine rather cliche
I can only hope this new movie isn't 'Raph and those other 3 dudes'

[pingclang]

Originally Posted by allie300

I don't identify with Raph..at all,I find the angry loner routine rather cliche
I can only hope this new movie isn't 'Raph and those other 3 dudes'

I guess I'm just weird then. But seriously, as much as I love Raph, I do hope all four get an equal share in the film. I fear it may be more April and those 4 turtles though.