Your opinion on Megan Fox being cast as April?

[plastroncafe]

The movie is "Jennifer's Body."
And she was great in it.

According to Wikipedia, Fox's character in "This is 40" owns a boutique.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Powder

I am of the opinion that

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Yes Jennifer's body is what I was referring to, I'm not 'slut bashing' I have just yet to see her range as an actress. From the beginning of Jennifer's body she would talk about all the guys she slept with and she seduced every guy the hole movie, given it was to kill them it's still that role. Even in transformers she was still that sex symbol, everyone wanted to get with. The bad chick, yeah she was on the good side but she was the perverbial "bad chick". She played an escort in this is 40 which IS a prostitute. I haven't seen any work of hers where she isn't a slut or a whore. I'm not bashing anything. We'll see in this movie if she can actually act.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

1) There's only one of me. So why the plural.
2) The thread isn't closed, comments aren't redacted, and I even said please.

But...as I do wish to slake my thirst on your man tears, CRY MOAR FANBOY

I was making a joke, don't be an Aufseherinnen.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Powder

I was making a joke, don't be an Aufseherinnen.

And now a comparison to a Nazi.
Nice.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

And now a comparison to a Nazi.
Nice.

You loved her in Jennifer's body where she still played a slutty role. Name some movies where is isn't a slut, whore, or sex symbol? And acted good.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Powder

I was making a joke, don't be an Aufseherinnen.

Geez that was a leap and a half.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

You loved her in Jennifer's body where she still played a slutty role. Name some movies where is isn't a slut, whore, or sex symbol? And acted good.

Wait...I have to be constructive?
I'm not the one dismissing her performances as "sluts and whores".

She "acted good" in "Jennifer's Body" where she played two very distinct characters. One of which was a demon. I maintain that her performance was fantastic in this movie through a combination of her "acting good" and working with a director that viewed her character as three dimensional, and not as T&A. Not to mention the script was clever.
Neither of those things could be said about Bayformers.

That right there? Is constructive.

You, dismissing her acting because you're focused on how bad it is that a female character likes sex, is not.

[Warboss74]

Fox's character doesn't own a boutique in "This is 40". She works at the boutique, but she makes her money as an escort. There's even a scene where they watch the security tape to try and find out who's been stealing merchandise, but they find her having sex behind the counter.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Wait...I have to be constructive?
I'm not the one dismissing her performances as "sluts and whores".

She "acted good" in "Jennifer's Body" where she played two very distinct characters. One of which was a demon. I maintain that her performance was fantastic in this movie through a combination of her "acting good" and working with a director that viewed her character as three dimensional, and not as T&A. Not to mention the script was clever.
Neither of those things could be said about Bayformers.

That right there? Is constructive.

You, dismissing her acting because you're focused on how bad it is that a female character likes sex, is not.

Her two "distinct roles" were slutty demon and slutty human. I'm not sexist, I don't care what role a girl plays or what role a guy plays. She was good in that movie but its a product of her typecast role as the girl everyone gets with, and as a sex symbol. I asked you to name some work of hers where she wasn't in that type of role and still acted well, you could not. At least not off the top of Your head. So as of right now your point is kind of invalid.

[NinjaPug]

She was great in Friends with Kids. She played an attractive younger woman that dated one of the main characters but in no way was she a sex symbol in it.

If you look at the set photos of Fox it doesn't look like April is going to be a sex symbol either and that's all that matters.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Warboss74

Fox's character doesn't own a boutique in "This is 40". She works at the boutique, but she makes her money as an escort. There's even a scene where they watch the security tape to try and find out who's been stealing merchandise, but they find her having sex behind the counter.

Take notes plastroncafe. I rest my case!

[Prowler]

I can't believe someone used the Godwin's Law in a thread like this...

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Her two "distinct roles" were slutty demon and slutty human. I'm not sexist, I don't care what role a girl plays or what role a guy plays. She was good in that movie but its a product of her typecast role as the girl everyone gets with, and as a sex symbol. I asked you to name some work of hers where she wasn't in that type of role and still acted well, you could not. At least not off the top of Your head. So as of right now your point is kind of invalid.

Don't worry, I'm writing you off as well for your repeated use of the word slutty as a descriptor.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Don't worry, I'm writing you off as well for your repeated use of the word slutty as a descriptor.

To quote Jack Nicholson in 'A Few Good Men'
You can't handle the truth!

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

My opinion on Fox, as I mentioned before in some other thread discussing the movie and/or her...

There are better actresses out there and nothing about her in particular strikes me as the April O'Neil type.
That being said, since this movie is within Bay's stable of films, I have always felt she'll be the useless maiden as she maintained in the Transformers movies (before she got replaced by a surprisingly weaker actress). She got in trouble a lot in the original cartoon, and looking at the cast list for this Summer 2014 film already would indicate that this is the April we will get despite Bay not being the director of this film. She'll probably be the one that will "stir the pot" and get in trouble doing so.
I have yet to see a Bay film, directed or produced, where the female is strong AND good looking.

[Warboss74]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Take notes plastroncafe. I rest my case!

Well to be fair, her job as an escort is only a passing line that explains why she has all the nice things she has despite working in retail, and not because she was stealing from the boutique. She's actually pretty charming in the movie.

My issue with her casting is that she's almost always cast as characters that exist to be eye candym I don't want a TMNT film where April's whole purpose is to be eye candy for the viewer.

[plastroncafe]

That your reliance on a sexist slur to describe the performance of a female actor is problematic? No no, I assure you I can handle that.

I'm disappointed by it, certainly, but I can handle it.
It's not as if it's the first time I've seen a fanboy dismiss, and debase a female character this way. Chances are good it won't be the last.

Our media has a problem with female characters and their sexual agency. That Fox is considered "merely a sex symbol" and nothing else says little about Fox, and more about the industry. As a whole. Responses like Cyber's are rampant. "Past her prime" because she's not deemed "young and attractive enough," without any mention of her ability to act. Hollywood sees no problem casting older and older leading men, but once a woman passes a certain age the roles are few and far between. And that's for the women who are lucky enough to be within the acceptable standards for attractive appearance.

Again, while I'm cool with seeing her play April, I'm disappointed that she's aligning herself with Bay, who seems to deal in little else than sexist and racist stereotypes.

If I had any reassurance that the script would be good, and the director would be competent, I'd feel better about it. I just don't trust Platinum Dunes to capable of creating a three dimensional female character, and it's about time April was treated right.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

That your reliance on a sexist slur to describe the performance of a female actor is problematic? No no, I assure you I can handle that.

I'm disappointed by it, certainly, but I can handle it.
It's not as if it's the first time I've seen a fanboy dismiss, and debase a female character this way. Chances are good it won't be the last.

Our media has a problem with female characters and their sexual agency. That Fox is considered "merely a sex symbol" and nothing else says little about Fox, and more about the industry. As a whole. Responses like Cyber's are rampant. "Past her prime" because she's not deemed "young and attractive enough," without any mention of her ability to act. Hollywood sees no problem casting older and older leading men, but once a woman passes a certain age the roles are few and far between. And that's for the women who are lucky enough to be within the acceptable standards for attractive appearance.

Again, while I'm cool with seeing her play April, I'm disappointed that she's aligning herself with Bay, who seems to deal in little else than sexist and racist stereotypes.

If I had any reassurance that the script would be good, and the director would be competent, I'd feel better about it. I just don't trust Platinum Dunes to capable of creating a three dimensional female character, and it's about time April was treated right.

I didn't call her herself slutty nor her performance, I called her role that. Because that's what it is! That's the role she always plays! You still haven't given me a role where she isn't a sex symbol and acted well. And it sounds to me you have a problem with the industry and not the 'fanboys' which I'm not. Yes I'm a fan, yes I'm an adult male, but fan boy? Really? I don't feed into your sexist agenda or hierarchy that anyone who has a negative opinion about a female actress or not is automatically sexiest. We have amendments in the states, equal rights, you fought for that remember? And in most court systems and many things they actually favor women. I merley stated that her range as an actress is yet to be shown. I hope she is a great April and blows me away I really do but up to this point she is a one trick pony. And there are tons of old actresses, Susan serandon is still acting and she's ugly as sin. No offense double S. The mother from everybody loves Raymond, Bette Middler, Sarah Jessica Parker, the woman from boys don't cry, Hilary swank I believe, there's lots.

[NinjaPug]

I already gave you one but you chose to ignore it. Friends with Kids. Her best work IMO.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Jennifer's Body was terrible in every aspect, but it's not enough for me to judge Megan Fox as an actress. I think she has the unfortunate luck of ending up in terrible movies, and yes, that goes for the Transformers movies as well. From what I've seen, she doesn't look bad as April. How old was Judith Hoag or Paige Turco when they were shooting in the movies?

Also, I think you guys meant "Friends With Kids", not Friend With Benefits.