Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon Crystal

[CyberCubed]

So the girl falls from the sky and kisses Tuxedo Mask right on the lips even though she's like 8 years old. Then she holds a pistol to Sailor Moon's face? What is with Japan's obsession with lolicon? Did we really need to see her kiss him?

I mean isn't she Sailor Moon's daughter from the future or something too?

[ssjup81]

I've finally started to watch Sailor Moon Crystal. I'm quite impressed with how close it is to the manga so far. I even like the fact that Rei/Mars (whose character was changed for the original anime) is just like her manga counterpart. Serious about her temple duties and not boy crazy and not interested in dating or guys. Of course there's a reason for it. In the manga there was a guy she really liked that worked for her father...and he was forced into marrying another girl because of him so that the two companies would have a good connection or whatever. Very old way of doing things. From then Rei felt it was pointless to fall in love, I guess you could say.

I'm also glad THEY FIXED MAMORU AND MOTOKI'S AGES!! Okay, so Motoki was never a problem. He was always portrayed in both the anime and manga as a university student who worked part time at the Crown Game Center/Cafe. Mamoru in the first anime was a university student, whereas in the manga, he was in highschool who later on became a first-year university student. It bugged me that a university student was dating a junior high school student. At least here, the ages are 14 and 16 for Usagi and Mamoru. Second year junior high school student and a second year high school student. I don't have much of an issue with that.

I'm glad they're keeping in the Shittenou storyline where we find out that Beryll's four minions weren't just brainwashed followers and that they'd lost memories of their pasts. The first anime handled this poorly.

I love that they kept in the Sailor V game being important.

Glad they pointed out the uniform thing for Makoto. The school didn't have a uniform for her because she's tall for a Japanese girl. The other students feared her because of the type of uniform she wore (which was changed since it's not the case anymore in modern day Japan). Uniforms with long skirts, or those who wore long skirts in the style of Mako's, as well as her hair type (wavy and such), back then actually had a negative stigma. People would assume she was "sukeban"...a delinquent girl. I forgot the term used for boys. So yeah, that was dropped, but that's more of a dated thing than anything else.

This is why Mako was always my favorite. She's tall and it's obvious she doesn't care for that. I also like the fact that she was perceived as strong and tough and "dangerous" despite her hobbies and club choices being quite feminine, traditional, or gentle. Her character is definitely showing that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

Now, as for things I do miss from this series...well, probably some of the "90s" stuff. Like with Ami who when in the cram school in the original manga and anime, was given a 3 1/2 floppy to work from. The update wasn't bad, though. A CD-Rom.

I liked Mr. Tsukino's design more so for the original anime. Umino as well.

I miss the original music. This show's intro just feels too Precure for my tastes or AKBish and I don't like either. I miss Moonlight Densetsu. I always skip the intro. The bgm is fine, though.

Hm, I kinda miss Yuuichirou and the other original seiyuu. Wish the rest of the women that voiced the other girls could've reprised their roles.

I also kinda miss filler eps which usually had the characters going through something silly or goofy which showed that there was more to them than just "Sailor business" as well as their vulnerabilities. Even though it was anime original, I actually kinda miss the storyline they had with Naru in the original series where she was being taken advantage of by one of Beryll's minions and the girls having to deal with that.

I am so hoping that they adapt some of the manga side stories, like the one where Minako pretty much crashed and hung at Rei's private school for a day in disguise as a student. That was hilarious in the manga.

That aside, I am definitely enjoying Crystal so far, for what it is.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So the girl falls from the sky and kisses Tuxedo Mask right on the lips even though she's like 8 years old. Then she holds a pistol to Sailor Moon's face? What is with Japan's obsession with lolicon? Did we really need to see her kiss him?

I mean isn't she Sailor Moon's daughter from the future or something too?

It was an accident, as she landed right in the middle of them when they were on a date in the park. She also didn't know, yet, that Usagi was her future mother (just as they didn't know she was their future daughter and didn't until they did that arc where they went to the future) and the pistol was a fake. It was a toy gun that shot darts (I think).

Edit: Never mind. I didn't know there was a youtube clip of season 2. Wow, so they're getting right into it. For the manga I liked ChibiUsa. Anime wise, not so much. I hope this series have her closer to her manga counterpart. She, imo, came across as very bratty, but I liked her for the manga.

Anyway, the kiss was still an accident and the pistol was still fake.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So the girl falls from the sky and kisses Tuxedo Mask right on the lips even though she's like 8 years old. Then she holds a pistol to Sailor Moon's face? What is with Japan's obsession with lolicon? Did we really need to see her kiss him?

I mean isn't she Sailor Moon's daughter from the future or something too?

that scene still feels awkward to me......

I mean Tuxedo Mask is her dad.......plus she's young......so yea...little weird.

[CyberCubed]

It's Japan. They're turned on by lolicon and incest over there, it makes no sense. There's a reason there's always little girls in various anime or inappropiate relationships in shows, I'll never understand that country.

[Allio]

have you guys never kissed your mother on the lips when you were 8? it's not exactly wrong.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Allio

have you guys never kissed your mother on the lips when you were 8? it's not exactly wrong.

Thinking about it some parents do do this. My aunt in NY does this when greeting relatives and she did that with her kids as well.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Allio

have you guys never kissed your mother on the lips when you were 8? it's not exactly wrong.

yea of course, It's just when Mamoru started blushing (after he gets kissed by chibiusa) that it became weird....

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Allio

have you guys never kissed your mother on the lips when you were 8? it's not exactly wrong.

Japan has a fetish for underage relationships.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

yea of course, It's just when Mamoru started blushing (after he gets kissed by chibiusa) that it became weird....

*Finally watched*

Yeah, it was weird, but I figured it was an embarassed blush.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

THe preview or the series?? The preview's on YouTube, the series itself is on Hulu, Crunchyroll, and NicoNico. New eps are the 1st and 3rd saturday's of the month. It airs simultaniously in Japan and the U.S (the eps pop up online at like 3am)

Crunchyroll? Sunofa! I'll start watching then

[LeotheLateBloomer]

You know, there is something's that I think Crystal lacks in comparison to both the manga and the original anime. But I can't quite put my finger on it.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

You know, there is something's that I think Crystal lacks in comparison to both the manga and the original anime. But I can't quite put my finger on it.

This show seems very true to the manga, but seems in the older anime series, the girls seemed a bit more....teen-like at times? Yes they had their sailor duties, but they also had their "earth lives" as well as other interests. Seems Crystal is focusing on the "duty" part only as opposed to the silly side-stories to see how they are from day to day when sailor stuff isn't fully involved. Seriously, I would love the side story of Minako disgusing herself just so she could go to Rei's school for a day. It was definitely my favorite side story from the manga because of how goofy Minako was for it and how amazed she was over what Rei's private school had to offer.

Hm, could that be it?

[TheCanadiandrome]

great series! i love it alot

[sdp]

So i watched the first episode on the free "samples" of the crunchyroll app and I have to say I was impressed, I didn't like the art style and what little I had seen looked choppy but it looked all rather nicely. My main gripe is the music was not iconic nor great which is a shame since the original anime has such great music. About 3 years ago I started re-watching Sailor Moon and it took me like a year to finish all the seasons. The show definitely had pros and cons but it didn't make me want to see a new SM show.

Anyway so all of the first season is only told in 14 episodes? That's neat that you can watch it all so quickly but in cases like this I actually think filler is good. What makes you like the characters so much is that you grow with them as they beat the bad guys, if you go from powers to beat the main general to beat the big bad the battles don't feel as epic. I'm not a fan of cutting down so much filler since I'm sure that many things won't feel as epic. Still I hope they get through all of the Manga, it'd be neat to finally see more accurate versions of Super S and Stars, especially since S was my favorite Anime season only for Super S in the anime to be my least favorite after that since it went on a total different direction.

[CyberCubed]

I haven't watched any of this yet, but I always liked how Sailor Moon had very little to no fanservice. It isn't like the magical girl shows that followed which had the girls always naked, grabbing each others boobs, sexual themes, etc.

I miss classic 90's anime, and I'm glad this remake isn't like modern anime stuff.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I haven't watched any of this yet, but I always liked how Sailor Moon had very little to no fanservice. It isn't like the magical girl shows that followed which had the girls always naked, grabbing each others boobs, sexual themes, etc.

I miss classic 90's anime, and I'm glad this remake isn't like modern anime stuff.

Actually...Sailor moon had a ton of fanservice.....but I guess it wasn't as in your face as most anime today.

Still it was there, I mean it wasn't like hidden or anything really.

[Leo656]

Don't mind Cubed, he misses the easy ones sometimes.

Hell, I barely paid attention to the old show - I did watch it once in a while, because it came on right before Sonic on the same channel and there was nothing else on at like 7am - but I could never shake the feeling, "I think this show wants me to masturbate. In fact, I *know* that's what they want."

It's got a HUGE reputation for being fan-service-y, guy, S'wrong wit'chu? Even *I* know that, mostly because, that's mostly the beginning and end of what I know about it.

[CyberCubed]

Sailor Moon was very tame fanservice-wise. Nothing like the magical girl anime that came after it during the 2000's. Go look up Vividred Operation which is the same genre of Sailor Moon and see what I mean.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Actually...Sailor moon had a ton of fanservice.....but I guess it wasn't as in your face as most anime today.

Still it was there, I mean it wasn't like hidden or anything really.

I obviously missed this so-called fanservice. What was in Sailor Moon that was fanservicey?

[CyberCubed]

Weren't there some nude transformation scenes and a few panty shots? Some of the female villains also had some cleavage scenes.