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Old 03-28-2014, 02:12 PM   #41
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No, We were saying Avatar as in The Last Airbender.
Oh... Sorry. That was even worse! Good lord...
BUT, I mean, unlike Avatar, The last airbender was directed by somebody who had made 4 awful movies in a row! Was there really anybody out there that expected anything out of that movie? Really?

I guess there always is. The worse in this discussion though? Shyamalan still has made better movies than Jonathan Liebesman...
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:14 PM   #42
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0509448/ just loot at that juicy filmography.
How anybody can expect anything remotely good out of the new Turtles movie after knowing what Jonathan Liebesman directed in the past is beyond me...
He's like a wannabe bad version of Michael Bay. And Michael Bay is already a wanna be John Woo. So that should tell you everything here...
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:19 PM   #43
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I don't think it will be a flop. But I will be very surprised, if it become a hit.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:23 PM   #44
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How anybody can expect anything remotely good out of the new Turtles movie after knowing what Jonathan Liebesman directed in the past is beyond me...
He's like a wannabe bad version of Michael Bay. And Michael Bay is already a wanna be John Woo. So that should tell you everything here...
Every single of his films feels like it's on auto pilot, There's no emotional connection at all, he just sits there and watches people make a movie for him, he's an extra on his own set. One of the worst directors working today. ****, even Uwe Boll's better than him.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:32 PM   #45
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Every single of his films feels like it's on auto pilot, There's no emotional connection at all, he just sits there and watches people make a movie for him, he's an extra on his own set. One of the worst directors working today. ****, even Uwe Boll's better than him.
That is true. Jonathan Liebesman is pretty much just a clone of whatever director he needs to be for the project he works on. But always worse.

He was a Leterrier clone with his sequel to Clash. He was a Marcus Niepel (?) clone for his awful Texas prequel. He was a mix between Spielberg's War of the worlds and Bay's Transformers for his Battle L.A. And now he has fully embrace the Bay look for his Turtles movie. There's definitely a pattern here.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:34 PM   #46
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Just like every other franchise I loved that Michael Bay has gotten his hands on.

I never thought it would flop, I just know it will be a bastardized mockery of something I grew up loving.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:49 PM   #47
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Yeah. Cause the people that predicted Dragonball and Avatar would suck were also Nostradamus right. Wake up and take off the nostalgia glasses when watching that trailer.
Funny thing is Overseas IT made more then enough to make its budget and then some the biggest contributor was in fact Japan.

So it's a bit Ironic the Country that should have hated it the most did the best -_^
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:50 PM   #48
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I feel pretty good about this movie's chances. The trailer seemed to go over well. It was trending on Facebook and twitter. I heard two grown men talking about it in the paint store today. "You know it's gonna be good, 'cause it's Michael Bay."

I can't accept TMNT 2007 as any kind of gauge. I've looked too many people in the face, and watched them dismiss the film the moment they found out it was animated. They shrug it off like it doesn't matter at all.

Same is true for the cartoons. I mean, we're here. We still love TMNT, even though most of us are, at least, teenagers. But most people don't grow up through their teens and into adulthood, continuing to watch cartoons of the stuff they liked as a child. Transformers has had a hundred cartoons since they came out. Like TMNT, Batman, Spider-Man, it's pretty much always been on TV. But the movies - that's when people get excited, like, "Hey, I used to love that thing, and it's coming back!" For a lot of adults, this is the first TMNT thing since the 90's that will even catch their attention.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:50 PM   #49
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Funny thing is Overseas IT made more then enough to make its budget and then some the biggest contributor was in fact Japan.

So it's a bit Ironic the Country that should have hated it the most did the best -_^
But do you think they will get all that money back from Japan? Hell no!
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:00 PM   #50
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I've never said it's going to flop. OF COURSE IT IS NOT GOING TO FLOP.

This movie is going to make a LOT of money. Hell, it might even break records for August box offices.

However, that doesn't mean it will be a good movie.

Transformers 1-3 and all the Resident Evil movies are clear proof that really really bad movies can bring in hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:03 PM   #51
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Funny thing is Overseas IT made more then enough to make its budget and then some the biggest contributor was in fact Japan.

So it's a bit Ironic the Country that should have hated it the most did the best -_^
Actually, a little research suggests it did best in Russia, not Japan.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:08 PM   #52
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I, for one am waiting for this movie to come out. I hope that the movie's focus will reach outside of the Shredder. Hopefully, this awesome villain will have a debut.
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Actually, a little research suggests it did best in Russia, not Japan.
then it was the second i couldn't remember which it was.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:22 PM   #54
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I don't know. I don't think it'll flop, I'm sure it'll at least make it's money back plus some, but that still doesn't mean it's going to be great as others have pointed out. And August is a weird time to be releasing it. With such a big name, why not July?
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:25 PM   #55
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What I think is first of all, if the studio had confidence with this movie, would they not put it somewhere in May or June or July? Nope. There are a lot of movies coming that would crush it.

It'll make money sure. In the first weekend you'll get the people curious about it, the people that remember TMNT as a kid, and then after that it'll be done. I doubt it will make all the money back they put into the movie and with movies today even if you break even, it's considered a failure.

There's buzz for it right now because of the teaser, but even that will fizzle out quickly.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:40 PM   #56
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the site admin for ninjapizza.net made a comment years ago when it first announced that Michael Bay would be producing, that went along the lines of Bay having a history of making summer blockbusters, and propelling the turtles back into spotlight would be a great thing...

...i agreed then, and seeing the trailer confirmed it; regardless of anyone's opinion on its quality, this thing will not bomb.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:49 PM   #57
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I think its still up in the air if the the movie will end up a flop or not because there's too may variables at the moment. Youtube veiws don't automatically translate into ticket sells it just shows people were interested in the trailer. A lot of that interest could have come from how under the radar the movie had been until now. Its also hard to guage reaction to that trailer from the internet because for every person who took the time to comment how many didn't or just flat out don't care? You have to take into account that kids will be going back to school meaning tired parents likely trying to conserve funds plus there's no telling kids will want to see it anyway considering the redesigns of the turtles. What I can see happening right now is for it to have a pretty good or even great opening thanks to super dedicated fans and curious nostalgics but where it goes from there will depend on word of mouth and the reaction to gaurdians of the galaxy.
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Funny thing is Overseas IT made more then enough to make its budget and then some the biggest contributor was in fact Japan.

So it's a bit Ironic the Country that should have hated it the most did the best -_^
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Actually, a little research suggests it did best in Russia, not Japan.
Nope...Sam's right. The highest grossing foreign market was Japan (according to BoxOfficeMojo.com)
Japan: $8,451,374
Russia: $806,408

BUT....the domestic gross was still higher than the Japanese numbers with $9,362,785. 84% of its receipts may have been from foreign ticket sales....but America still had the highest box office performance of any market.
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Nope...Sam's right. The highest grossing foreign market was Japan (according to BoxOfficeMojo.com)
Japan: $8,451,374
Russia: $806,408

BUT....the domestic gross was still higher than the Japanese numbers with $9,362,785. 84% of its receipts may have been from foreign ticket sales....but America still had the highest box office performance of any market.
It just amazes me how he spins that gross for Japan. If nobody looked it up, you would assume it raked in a whole bunch of money. See how Japan wasn't upset over the abomination that was Dragonball Evolution, so we should enjoy what looks like it's going to be a steaming turd of a TMNT film.
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Old 03-28-2014, 05:15 PM   #60
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I never thought the movie was gonna flop, it cater to the lowest denominator like Transformers did and will reel in big bucks.

Which will be sprinkled on good projects.
This. With Bay, Fox, military wank, explosions, & a property fondly remembered, no matter how bad it is to many core fans, it will succeed.
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