Nick TMNT renewed for a fourth season

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

Wow. So the weird spongebob hate/jealously train has added condescension to the mix?

Why......?

It's always Spongebob on here. Always!

It's because Spongebob is the perennial and dominant offender, and one that seems to be dragging the quality of Nick shows down. If it was competitive because it maintained it's cleverness and kept the grossout humor to a minimum it would be different, but it has slowly degraded in quality and it is a former shell of it's once noble self.

I'm betting a lot of the old Spongebob writers left the show over time, which is the same thing that happened to the Simpsons. The new writers don't have a 'feel' for what is in character and what isn't, so we get gross exaggerations of what they think the characters are like, who thus end up becoming grossly unnatural in their behavior.

This is also what I am nervous about with Nick TMNT. I don't mind that it's renewed it for a 4th season, but I do hope they will know when to end it and wrap everything up nicely. I don't want to see good characters devolve into goofy caricatures, and see everything I've grown to love in the show succumb to seasonal rot.

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

It's because Spongebob is the perennial and dominant offender, and one that seems to be dragging the quality of Nick shows down. If it was competitive because it maintained it's cleverness and kept the grossout humor to a minimum it would be different, but it has slowly degraded in quality and it is a former shell of it's once noble self.

I'm betting a lot of the old Spongebob writers left the show over time, which is the same thing that happened to the Simpsons. The new writers don't have a 'feel' for what is in character and what isn't, so we get gross exaggerations of what they think the characters are like, who thus end up becoming grossly unnatural in their behavior.

This is also what I am nervous about with Nick TMNT. I don't mind that it's renewed it for a 4th season, but I do hope they will know when to end it and wrap everything up nicely. I don't want to see good characters devolve into goofy caricatures, and see everything I've grown to love in the show succumb to seasonal rot.

This. So much this.

[JTH]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

It's because Spongebob is the perennial and dominant offender, and one that seems to be dragging the quality of Nick shows down. If it was competitive because it maintained it's cleverness and kept the grossout humor to a minimum it would be different, but it has slowly degraded in quality and it is a former shell of it's once noble self.

I'm betting a lot of the old Spongebob writers left the show over time, which is the same thing that happened to the Simpsons. The new writers don't have a 'feel' for what is in character and what isn't, so we get gross exaggerations of what they think the characters are like, who thus end up becoming grossly unnatural in their behavior.

This is also what I am nervous about with Nick TMNT. I don't mind that it's renewed it for a 4th season, but I do hope they will know when to end it and wrap everything up nicely. I don't want to see good characters devolve into goofy caricatures, and see everything I've grown to love in the show succumb to seasonal rot.

Well Ciro has said that he personally would like at least 5 seasons because he had a 5 year plan for the show with story arcs he wanted to do. So up to Season 5, I don't think we'd have to worry about it dragging down, plus by the time more seasons now green lighted, Ciro could gather even more ideas he could do.

They green lighted Season 4 at the right time, it gives Ciro plenty of time to work at his own pace and make good quality arcs.

[OrokuYoshiFilms]

Originally Posted by Jephael

I just pray that Breadwinners tanks so the series gets moved back to Saturday mornings.

Isn't that show just the worst? Lol. Anyway that's great news! Contrary to shredder orokusaki's belief I want expecting a lengthy run with this new iteration.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

It's because Spongebob is the perennial and dominant offender, and one that seems to be dragging the quality of Nick shows down. If it was competitive because it maintained it's cleverness and kept the grossout humor to a minimum it would be different, but it has slowly degraded in quality and it is a former shell of it's once noble self.

Ok? That's fine to not like the show.

But why is it constantly a thing to mention Spongebob every time Nick news comes down the pipe? TMNT is doing good! Be happy about that! Why do we have to be nasty about it?

It's always "Alright! NOW IT CAN TAKE DOWN THE SPONGE!" Who cares? Just leave it alone and enjoy what you enjoy. Nobody is forcing anyone to watch Spongebob.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

Ok? That's fine to not like the show.

But why is it constantly a thing to mention Spongebob every time Nick news comes down the pipe? TMNT is doing good! Be happy about that! Why do we have to be nasty about it?

It's always "Alright! NOW IT CAN TAKE DOWN THE SPONGE!" Who cares? Just leave it alone and enjoy what you enjoy. Nobody is forcing anyone to watch Spongebob.

I think people fear with the massive success SpongeBob has, that Nickelodeon will pressure Ciro and the production staff to make TMNT more like Spongebob in terms of its comedy, using the business logic: Well... Spongebob is obviously doing something right, so why can't TMNT learn from that to get a bigger audience? What's TMNT's problem?

...And possibly changing the overall tone and depiction of Nick TMNT in the future.

[raphmike]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...85-d59xa0l.png

X3 i made this comic a year or so ago. warning, language, violence. since we're talking about spongebob and tmnt.

cool, i love what you did comic really good job.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

I agree, I miss Saturday mornings...

or Friday nights T^T I love watching cartoons at night.

nothing to do....no errands to run....

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

I think people fear with the massive success SpongeBob has, that Nickelodeon will pressure Ciro and the production staff to make TMNT more like Spongebob in terms of its comedy, using the business logic: Well... Spongebob is obviously doing something right, so why can't TMNT learn from that to get a bigger audience? What's TMNT's problem?

...And possibly changing the overall tone and depiction of Nick TMNT in the future.

So we're gonna get worried about hypotheticals now?

Plus, its not like Spongebob JUST became popular. If they wanted TMNT to have a similar tone, it would've been that way from the beginning.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

So we're gonna get worried about hypotheticals now?

Well, you asked a question Stryker about "why"... ...and I gave a possibility what some of the folks here could be associating or worrying about. **shrug**

Originally Posted by The Stryker

Plus, its not like Spongebob JUST became popular. If they wanted TMNT to have a similar tone, it would've been that way from the beginning.

Who knows? ...Maybe Nick gave the production staff a shot in the beginning, and the TMNT series wasn't as high of a success according to Nick's business/viewership expectations, or maybe they just want to push the success even further, and therefore they now want to incorporate other successful elements (OT references, exaggerated humor [closer to SpongeBob's tone], nostalgia characters) to give it that extra boost.

Think about it, if this show didn't have all the OT/nostalgia stuff in it, would half of the grown up audience (particularly "casual" fans) be just as enthusiastic to watch the show? Thus influencing the secondhand viewing of their children. Or think about how tempting it is for a business to follow Spongebob's tone of humor and influence Nick TMNT, when TMNT has just indicated that it isn't the first place franchise within Nickelodeon's holdings. Of course this is all massive speculation, but it's not completely outlandish.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by tmntmikey23

i agree here lucky i got rid of my cabal and now my mom is going to buy netflex to bad netflex dont got tmnt butt still got youtube

I'll catch it on youtube when I can, but I like it more when they just sell the half season on Amazon digital, and then I can watch like 12 episodes in one day. It's kind of nice.

[raphmike]

i have direc tv i never miss episode if i do will watch on 2:00pm on west.

[blindturtle02]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

I'll catch it on youtube when I can, but I like it more when they just sell the half season on Amazon digital, and then I can watch like 12 episodes in one day. It's kind of nice.

I love the fact that it's on amazon instant vid too. I haven't missed an episode yet, but purchased a TV pass so I can still watch it the day it airs since Amazon and iTunes are releasing the episodes several hours before they air.

So Ciro has a 5 year plan for the show? Well here's hoping we get a 5th season. As for the direction of the show, I think Nick knows that they've got a great thing going. Unlike other toons today, this baby appeals to both kids and adults, so one would hope they'd keep the tone the same throughout the series run. I feel like the writers and producers have created a show that can both sell merch and let a good story be a good story without dumbing things down. Hopefully, they'll continue to latch on to this concept and see it through to the very last episode.

[Leofan26]

A fourth season? That's surprising, Nick doesn't normally get by a third season.

I wonder what kind of fillers they'll use as seasons go on?

[fridaynightdestination]

[Donatello19]

As happy as I am...I can't really say I'm surprised. I'm sure this will go on for at least 6 or 7 seasons, if not more.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by blindturtle02

I love the fact that it's on amazon instant vid too. I haven't missed an episode yet, but purchased a TV pass so I can still watch it the day it airs since Amazon and iTunes are releasing the episodes several hours before they air.

So Ciro has a 5 year plan for the show? Well here's hoping we get a 5th season. As for the direction of the show, I think Nick knows that they've got a great thing going. Unlike other toons today, this baby appeals to both kids and adults, so one would hope they'd keep the tone the same throughout the series run. I feel like the writers and producers have created a show that can both sell merch and let a good story be a good story without dumbing things down. Hopefully, they'll continue to latch on to this concept and see it through to the very last episode.

Well, right now, the Turtles aren't so bright all of the time, especially Mikey. But I'm not going to stress about it now. I'm assuming when they finally get to Nick's version of The Shredder Strikes Back, this is when I am expecting the Turtles to mature some, especially Mikey.

[drgon78]

Agreed, Mikey needs to mature and grow as a character a lot more then the rest do.

[Zulithe]

Soo happy to hear this news! I think we were all pretty confident about it, but until it's official it's just a dream.

Four seasons, yes!

Hope we can make it to 10 seasons personally

[TurtleTitan97]

AH YEAH!!!!!!

Glad to hear it got renewed for another season.