The Manhatten Project recieved an Emmy Nomination

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by Werecat

I would like to mention that TMNT is only nominated for its animation quality and not its writing quality. The writing is decent. The writing quality still has flaws, it is not or near perfection.

If it's only nominated for its animation quality, then why did they nominate South Park? It's interesting animation but not even close to good by any means.

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

Then again, if the series itself wasn't Daytime Emmy nominated this year (2014), they must be doing something... Well, I think some of us (some a little more vocally than others ) have commented how this second season has taken a different direction, and not in the best ways.

NOTHING was nominated for a Daytime Emmy this year in animation. It was all Drama shows and crap like that. I guarantee you TMNT would've been nominated for one this year if they had bothered with animation. Also, season 2 hasn't been taking the best direction? Uh, Target: April O'Neil, Slash and Destroy, Good, Bad, Casey Jones, Of Rats and Men, Wormquake, Lonely Mutation, Wrath of Tiger Claw, Legend of Kuro Kabuto, and Vengeance is Mine would like to have a word with you. (Many of those were some of the best episodes of the SERIES)

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Powder

You're new here, so you're clearly not aware that we have numerous members who ONLY post "This show sucks" & nothing more. There's no need to become a broken record, especially when it's just bringing more negativity.

I have no problem with people criticizing anything, it's not like I've only ever had good things to say.

As for Bubbly, well, that's just jammin' & jolly that he reads your fan-fics. Good to know people only defend others' negative behavior because of a bias.



This.

Oh, get over yourself. I'm so sick of the mentality that if anybody doesn't like the show, they shouldn't post in this section about it. It's just f*cking ridiculous how this forum has sunk so low. I could see if Zarius flamed everyone else for liking it, but he hasn't done that. And looking back at his post, I didn't see anything wrong with it at all and nothing that would amount to the backlash he's receiving.

And my defense of him has nothing to do with bias. He has every right to hate this show and post his dislike of it as he sees fit just as others have every right to praise the show and post how they like it. Since when has this forum become so one-sided like this? It's the same thing in the movie thread, which is why I stay away from it. People really need to grow up and stop dictating what we can and can't say on this forum. And if you don't like someone's negative opinion, just ignore it. Plain and simple.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Oh, get over yourself. I'm so sick of the mentality that if anybody doesn't like the show, they shouldn't post in this section about it. It's just f*cking ridiculous how this forum has sunk so low. I could see if Zarius flamed everyone else for liking it, but he hasn't done that. And looking back at his post, I didn't see anything wrong with it at all and nothing that would amount to the backlash he's receiving.

Yo. He edited his first post a bunch to take out most of the insults. After it was read and responded to.

Even in his followup post he went on calling people 'sheep' for liking the show and not agreeing with his view of it's flaws. He also implied that a few of the people that didn't agree with him are retarded.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Am I "Allowed" to say that I found the specific episode a little mediocre, a bit over-hyped, and a surprising one to get an Emmy nod? Can't think of any off the top of my head, but having just seen this one again the other day, I swear I've seen better ones from this series. It's not "Bad" by itself, I'unno.

Really does seem like it only got any attention because of the gimmick with the OT Turtles. That was my gut reaction, frankly. Just callin' it as I see it.

That was my feeling too. I think Wrath or Lonely Mutation would have been better episodes to use, since they show what the Nick show is capable of when you remove the doofiness and get down to business. Honestly, I think that is the only reason why people like Manhattan Project is because they still miss the OT a lot and wish it was back on the air. I just wish they would say it upfront and be blunt and honest about it. This show doesn't feel like it's getting judged on it's own terms to me with this particular episode, but because of some brief OT cameo that it has and that annoys me greatly. I badly want this show to be it's own thing, and not some vehicle to keep the OT 'alive.' Otherwise it stops being Nick TMNT and becomes OT redux, wth bits of 'old school' OT thrown in for the extra nostalgia feels.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

To be honest, don't mean to fuel the fire, but the episode wasn't very memorable to me.

That is all.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by That Collector Guy

NOTHING was nominated for a Daytime Emmy this year in animation. It was all Drama shows and crap like that. I guarantee you TMNT would've been nominated for one this year if they had bothered with animation. Also, season 2 hasn't been taking the best direction? Uh, Target: April O'Neil, Slash and Destroy, Good, Bad, Casey Jones, Of Rats and Men, Wormquake, Lonely Mutation, Wrath of Tiger Claw, Legend of Kuro Kabuto, and Vengeance is Mine would like to have a word with you. (Many of those were some of the best episodes of the SERIES)

Ummm... I'm guessing you didn't read my first post carefully:

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

Found the link if anybody's interested:
http://www.emmys.com/awards/nominees...ion-60-minutes

So after reading a bit on it, the Daytime Emmy Awards nominates the series for a Children's Animated Show (surprised no one mentioned how Nick TMNT was nominated back in 2013 by the way, yet WASN'T nominated at all in 2014), but these Primetime Emmy Awards nominate only a single episode/special (less than an hour) within any animated series (children's or adults'), and NOT the series as a whole.

Which has a link to the Children's Animated Nominated Shows for the 2014 Daytime Emmys. And here's the Children's Animated Nominated Shows for the 2013 Daytime Emmys. (Kung Fu Panda won in both years in this category of "Outstanding Children's Animated Show".) So yes, Nick TMNT wasn't nominated this 2014 year. So, I don't understand where your logic is of "it was all Drama shows and crap like that" is coming from.

As for those episodes I would say a couple of them are good highlights ("Wrath of Tiger Claw" and "Vengeance Is Mine"), but I would beg to differ on about half of them. If you are really interested in my opinion of them, which I highly doubt, I'm sure you can search for my posts in the official episode threads in the Nick forum. Otherwise, as I told others who have disagreed with my opinion before, if you enjoy the episodes and the series, so be it. I'm glad at least some of us are enjoying it more so than me. All I'm pointing to, is with this lack of 2014 nomination and how some have been complaining about Donnie's, Mikey's, and April's depictions, on top of the "Mutant of the Week" episodic plots, selective plot amnesia, and the stale direction of the Kraang plot, they could be possible factors toward that lack of a nomination, but that's just my speculation on things.

[Konchadunga]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

My work actually has fans, I've even had fan art based on my stories, so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with wanting me to hide my sigs.

And TMNT 2012 has more fans. What's your point?

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I'm proud of my work, I've spent several years working on my projects and they've helped me cope with recovery from a mental illness that almost drove me to suicide in 2010. There is nothing in that which says "sour grapes", just "I have grown as a writer and as a person and I am very self-confident". I'm not going to stop pimping myself just because I slammed a show you enjoy, and if people want to criticize...that's the whole point of writing, to generate divisive opinion. I have a comics writer for a friend and I cannot stand his work on a certain title, but we're still tight despite that.

I am quite certain, however, that when you hang out with him, the bulk of your dialogue is not you dissing his work. Have some damned tact.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

No doubt the people behind this show know full well not everyone will like their output and they're probably not too fussed either given so many more people than the vocal minority enjoy it, just as my writer friend is not fussed if his work proves divisive (even with me), and just as I'm not fussed if you don't like my work because I know plenty of others enjoy it.

But you're a complete dick to people you know enjoy something you don't, you hypocrite.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

To those I annoyed, please don't take it the wrong way, if you like the show, all the more power to you. I know I am in a (glorious) minority. Congratulations to the rest of you for having something to celebrate. It's just not my cup of tea.

THEN SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT IT! You're contributing absolutely nothing to the discussions once we already know how you feel. Even Netkeeper, as hateful as he is, actually clarifies his criticisms.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Quite right. It's hilarious how, last I checked, the movie thread is 90% negativity and there have been instances where those with a positive outlook have been accused of being corporate plants and trolls...and in the Nick forum you're not allowed to say the slightest thing negative about the show or point out it's irritable adolescense and weak narrative structure and poor characterisations. Why is it one way for one thing (oh right, because Bay hate is the current fashion statement), and one way for another? Why must people conform to a pack mentality just to fit in on here? People should be allowed to have independent thought and not feel "intimidated" by the Neo-Nick fans (I use quote marks because the thought of these people being capable of intimidation is just sad, maybe I should rephrase that to "amused", complete with the quote marks because the thought of these people being capable of amusement is equally just as sad)

Well first of all, I haven't read all of the bile spewed at Bay (is that even possible to do?) but again, much of what I've seen is more eloquent than your rants. Second, though, I disagree. People should pay some mind to "When in Rome"; not to outright ass-kissing levels, but to the extent that it's courteous. You don't have to share the mass opinion, but you're downright insecure if you feel oppressed in your opinion if you don't voice it. Once again, you are just beating a dead horse, and comments like "the emperor has no clothes" and "mediocre" don't mean anything. At all. Your accusations of us being sheep are dead wrong; most of us have big gripes with the show; the difference is we can actually phrase them as constructive criticism. I haven't come on to praise the show one-sidedly in months.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I have'nt even read Powder's post, but I don't really give a toss. He and his kind exist only to instigate on this forum.

Maybe you should pay attention then, because if that description exists, he's your type.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Thanks Bubbly. I don't go out of my way to say the Nick 'toon is awful out of spite, there are things I do like about it, and if I did'nt 100% beleive that it could be better than it currently is, I would'nt give people who capatalise on strengthening it's potential the time of day, I do so because they're very gifted, as you are, and because they see strengths and oppertunities I wish the show's writers would capatalise on.

Wish?! Wishing doesn't do jack. Neither does whining. If you want the writers to do better, give criticisms that actually give advice to them, or shut the shell up.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

ike I said, I'm happy for those who are happy for the show, it's not to my liking,

THEN DON'T STIR **** WITH THEM! THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!

I do not know how others feel about this, but I, for one, gave up respecting all opinions no matter what a long time ago. Stupid and rude are stupid and rude. No doubt, you have the right to your opinion, but so do I, and arbitrarily respecting anyone violates my right. So you get to say this show sucks? Well, then I get to say you suck.

YOU ****ING SUCK!

[pennydreadful]

Guys... c'mon, can we not?

[Werecat]

Originally Posted by That Collector Guy

If it's only nominated for its animation quality, then why did they nominate South Park? It's interesting animation but not even close to good by any means.

South Park's animation is good. Plus South park's writing is actually good and full of satire comedy. The writers of South Park usually get there inspiration from real life events. South Park also kind of made fun of themselves for being an award winning show by showing the stupidest stuff and broadcasting it. There is a reason why South Park has been going on for 17 seasons and still going.

The animation quality in TMNT is superb and worthy of nomination by that alone. The writing of TMNT is decent, it usually averages a rating of 7/10. 7/10 does not equal MAJESTIC MASTERPIECE AND BIBLE FOR ALL TMNT FANS!!!!!!

[Coola Yagami]

Um... Saying a cartoon that is basically for kids sucks is not the same as saying a fellow member of the forum sucks. Let's keep personal insults to a miminum.

[Machias Banshee]

Agreed, Coola... there is ZERO need for this kind of hostility.

Zarius, Konchadunga...

I don't care if someone likes or dislikes something. Calling people stupid, or sheep, or retarded, or this "Neo-Nick" thing... this is ridiculous. Attacking each other and other fans because of their opinions of the cartoon is a waste of time, energy. No fans want to read through your garbage to actually get to the original thread topic.

So this thread will be cleaned. And the staff will be notified.

If this nonsense continues after today (12JUL2014), you will be hearing from us..